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Is this bottle of pg based nic too full for freezing? I'm unsure
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:offtopic: Are you making a quilt? Saw your fabric stash!
Bottle looks a little full, but wrap the lid with electric tape and you should be fine.

Yes, quilting was my obsession before vaping!
I still love sewing but it's taken a back seat for now[emoji4]
 

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So pg based nic won't expand when frozen? That brings me to my next question. Since I am just starting on acquiring all of my nic, I've been buying pg based, is vg better?
Apparently nic in VG SHOULD last longer but this is not completely confirmed due to lack of comparable long term data.

Personally I like PG nic as it is easier to work with (thinner). I have 100mg nic in PG, VG as well as 50/50 PG/VG. I am not convinced one is better than the other for 10-20 year storage in the freezer.

None of the above should expand in the freezer but I wouldn't fill the bottles right to the very top either. Leave a bit of room.
 

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Apparently nic in VG SHOULD last longer but this is not completely confirmed due to lack of comparable long term data.

Personally I like PG nic as it is easier to work with (thinner). I have 100mg nic in PG, VG as well as 50/50 PG/VG. I am not convinced one is better than the other for 10-20 year storage in the freezer.

That's exactly why I bought pg, it's easier to work with!
 

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So pg based nic won't expand when frozen? That brings me to my next question. Since I am just starting on acquiring all of my nic, I've been buying pg based, is vg better?
It actually does the opposite and contracts a bit.As to whether pg or vg is better,that comes down to choice.I get all mine in vg,simply because i make my juices at 70% vg,so it is easier for me that way.
 

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Prob been answered somewhere in this huge thread already, but what do we KNOW they're going to restrict access to when the bell rings on this asinine law?

Hardware (almost certain)
I've seen PG VG are (uncertain and seemingly unlikely)

Nicotene?
Flavorings?

Nic is about the only one (and a big one) I could see them clamping down on. Anyone know for certain?

Thanks!
 
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Prob been answered somewhere in this huge thread already, but what do we KNOW they're going to restrict access to when the bell rings on this asinine law?

Hardware (almost certain)
I've seen PG VG are (uncertain and seemingly unlikely)

Nicotene?
Flavorings?

Nic is about the only one (and a big one) I could see them clamping down on. Anyone know for certain?

Thanks!

I'm interested too!
I am worried about pg and vg though. I read somewhere that they could put something in it that would make it un-vapeable
 

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This, ladies and gentlemen is why we keep ejuice out of the sunlight. This stuff was lost for a few years and was in a box near a window. It was from 10/2012 when I first tried vaping. Not to be off topic, store your juice in a cool, dark place!
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Prob been answered somewhere in this huge thread already, but what do we KNOW they're going to restrict access to when the bell rings on this asinine law?

Hardware (almost certain)
I've seen PG VG are (uncertain and seemingly unlikely)

Nicotene?
Flavorings?

Nic is about the only one (and a big one) I could see them clamping down on. Anyone know for certain?

Thanks!
Flavors should not be affected unless they are special blends from a designated vape supplier,stuff like Tfa,Capella,etc. are all food flavoring and were around long before vaping.Pg and vg were both also around long before vaping,and have been used for other things for a very long time.Pg is used by farmers,and vg is used for making skin care stuff and a bunch of other stuff.As far as liquids are concerned,tobacco flavors and nicotine are the only 2 i see there ever being an issue with.
 

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Flavors should not be affected unless they are special blends from a designated vape supplier,stuff like Tfa,Capella,etc. are all food flavoring and were around long before vaping.Pg and vg were both also around long before vaping,and have been used for other things for a very long time.Pg is used by farmers,and vg is used for making skin care stuff and a bunch of other stuff.As far as liquids are concerned,tobacco flavors and nicotine are the only 2 i see there ever being an issue with.

Awesome, thanks for the reply. I guess one thing I've heard is the only "Big Tobacco" will be able to sell e-cigs and they can ONLY be tobacco flavored, because of attracting kids. As if kids didn't get into analogs, so I wonder if they'll kill tobacco flavors since they think it "tastes bad".

Also, it isn't like there hasn't always been flavored:

- cigs and cigars
- beer
- vodka
- malt beverages (hard cider, lemonade, tea, etc.)
- etc. and on and on and on

Don't get me started :).

Thanks again.
 

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Awesome, thanks for the reply. I guess one thing I've heard is the only "Big Tobacco" will be able to sell e-cigs and they can ONLY be tobacco flavored, because of attracting kids. As if kids didn't get into analogs, so I wonder if they'll kill tobacco flavors since they think it "tastes bad".

Also, it isn't like there hasn't always been flavored:

- cigs and cigars
- beer
- vodka
- malt beverages (hard cider, lemonade, tea, etc.)
- etc. and on and on and on

Don't get me started :).

Thanks again.
I probably should of been more specific,i don't mean flavored juices,i'm strictly talking about being able to get the flavors to make the juice ourselves.
 

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I wonder how much longer we have to get nic? I need to know for budgeting purposes. What's the worse case scenario with nic? I'm stocked up on devices and tanks
Short answer is nobody knows for certain.
IMO it will be targeted sooner or later, the regulation is not clear on nicotine base with a definite date.
They could clamp down on it anytime the way that it's worded.
 

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I wonder how much longer we have to get nic? I need to know for budgeting purposes. What's the worse case scenario with nic? I'm stocked up on devices and tanks
That's the big one everyone is unsure of,so i would get what you can and any time you have the funds to get more,grab some more.This is what i've been doing the last few years and will continue to get more up until i can't.
 

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I probably should of been more specific,i don't mean flavored juices,i'm strictly talking about being able to get the flavors to make the juice ourselves.

No I got it thanks. Commenting (lamenting) the idea they might make tobacco flavorings (vs. other flavorings) difficult to get. That was the rant tangent I took. Thanks!
 

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That's the big one everyone is unsure of,so i would get what you can and any time you have the funds to get more,grab some more.This is what i've been doing the last few years and will continue to get more up until i can't.

I need probably 40 years worth! Can you guess what my extra spending money will be used on?[emoji38]
 

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Short answer is nobody knows for certain.
IMO it will be targeted sooner or later, the regulation is not clear on nicotine base with a definite date.
They could clamp down on it anytime the way that it's worded.
I agree.I would like to think we have until 8/2018 as with the hardware,but i just have a feeling they won't let it slide that long.
 
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