You make a good point. Some pouches come in different strengths and the uptake on the ones I’ve tried have been fairly quick so I would recommend erring on the low side if someone decides to try those or the lozenges.
i use a dehumidifier in my basement here in Boston. That might work plus amazon sells the silica packs for real cheap.
Good Lord...those are ridiculously expensive replacement pods, IMO! I'll do some searching to see what I can find. Can you wait, and not buy any yet...in case I find some for lower $ ?
I’ve noticed the same thing on some other pod devices where they practically give away the device then get you on buying the pods. How long do they last on that device?
@BigPappa - Lowest price so far in my search, on sale for $11.95/4-pack. Vendor located in Oakland Park, FL. May find a lower price though. Hang on....
MOTI Refillable Replacement Pods - 4 Pack - EJuice Connect
MOTI Refillable Replacement Pods - 4 Pack - EJuice Connect
Mr. @Rossum commented earlier about what people might be doing differently this time around in comparison to the 2016 stockpiling frenzy. My answer to that query is easily “BUY MORE SQUONKERS.”
I had purchased 5 REOs Mods in the spring of 2015. (PIF one to a very, very dear friend who used it to death.) Lots of REOs replacement parts - enough, I think, to carry through for at least five years, if not more, with good maintenance. Those have always been my vapeocalypse, End-of-Days strategy. Other items were what were en vogue at the time, which means I still have three Reauleauxs in cellophane-sealed boxes and practically unused IPV5s. (This is not to even mention random mods that are probably perfectly usable, but I do not “count” towards stocking up inventory.)
But even then, squonking had not gone mainstream enough to alert my attention to it as a central go-to option, plus, the variety of devices was still relatively niche outside of certain forums and FB groups. As I worked at a vape shop, I was mandated to use what we sold, and therefore most of my purchases reflected that. Anything I bought on the side was still mainly influenced by the more prominent discussions on this board, and even then I managed to spend a good deal of money.
I have always envied the people here who have such deep knowledge of artisan vape products and ability to fix and rebuild them. I am a creative person but quite inept at anything mathematical or of engineering. I have a hard time visualizing things without being very deliberate. So, for instance, if someone describes how to fix a mod, I hear the Charlie Brown adults “waah-waah” speak and I cannot follow.
Now that squonking is affordable, easy, and accessible, it is the obvious choice for ME to stockpile. I can drip all day long if need be, but IMO, for ME, squonking is even easier to maintain than an RTA. Y’all might remember I spoke of using the FireLuke Mesh tank for a solid 1.5 years before I just bought my Topside 90w + Profile, and my Serpent Elevate. The transition from drop-in coil tank to squonking was seamless, whereas I still have to fiddle with the RTA (which is still amazeballs).
Back in 2016 I just didn’t have a crystal ball to foresee the products available for purchase now. And that’s why I’m re-doing my stockpiling now.
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I think for most it wasn't about "in case they want to squonk". It's because they could be had for dirt cheap (many times under $10) and they can be used as regular mods.
For me personally have no intention of squonking, or dripping for that matter.
Back in 2016 I just didn’t have a crystal ball to foresee the products available for purchase now. And that’s why I’m re-doing my stockpiling now.
Exactly. Another product that wasn't available back in 2015/2016 are 20700/21700 mods. Most of the mods I've bought this time around are those. Having a mod that allows me to use 3 different size batteries gives me a little more peace of mind about my stash.
Around 2015/16 I went through my house and I only kept things I loved, used, or needed. I gave away or threw away my huge vape stash I started in 2012 and only kept one built in battery mod and one drop in tank. I wanted to quit vaping. I used that same setup for 5+ years only buying DIY or coils. It was very freeing. I quit once for two weeks and started back. I also unregistered from the forum in 2015 and returned this September to learn about the May deadline. So I’m starting from scratch. And now I have an overwhelming stash of amazing things. No regrets here.
@BigPappa - You and @bnrkwest may want to jump on those I posted for $11.95 per pack, unless you want to try dealing with DHGate.com (which I wouldn't recommend at all). No one has them for less than $11.95, that I can find. All are $12.99 and up! If you had a wholesale account at several places, it's possible, but...
Yeah, it's the old "get 'em hooked, they'll be back to buy the high margin accessories" model. That's why when 8vape was giving them away, I declined it on all 3 of my orders. I was afraid I'd try it then feel compelled to buy more sh|t. lol No bueno.
I have cigalikes with mini tanks that I bet will out-perform most mini pod systems - and they don't leak and they don't have proprietary connections.
Pods systems are a great way to keep customers beholden to a specific vape manufacturer and the POOOF, they discontinue it 3 months later.
It's like making a cigarette that can only be lit using a specific lighter, sold only by that manufacturer.
Like the innokin disrupter. can't use it unless you buy a proprietary battery, which is discontinued now. I saw that and ran as fast as I could.
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I recently got rid of several batteries from 2013. They either got to the point where they wouldn't charge at all or if they did charge their run time was down to 15 minutes. Now there is one caveat I only used them in old fashioned devices like the Provari which can't run higher than 10-15 watts (P3). I wouldn't use old batteries like that in a mech which has no protection at all and I wouldn't tun them at higher wattage.
Also keep an eye on the battery's casing. Mine were pretty brittle by then and needed a rewrap.
If things get really bad, I can see the vaping community getting back to innovation and invention. Has anyone ever thought about making a stationary desktop vaping system using an AC to DC power supply? I was looking around and found a suitable power supply. This would be a fine DIY project.
RSP-320-4: MEAN WELL : AC to DC Switching Enclosed Power Supply with PFC Function 4 Volts 60 Amps 240 Watts : Power Supplies & Wall Adapters
I looked at the spec sheet and for this model, and the output voltage is actually adjustable from 3.7 to 4.3 Volts. (perfect!). The 60 amp capacity would be plenty, with no exploding batteries.
Make an ornate wood box, and you'd have a genuine mad scientist rig.
RSP-320-4: MEAN WELL : AC to DC Switching Enclosed Power Supply with PFC Function 4 Volts 60 Amps 240 Watts : Power Supplies & Wall Adapters
I looked at the spec sheet and for this model, and the output voltage is actually adjustable from 3.7 to 4.3 Volts. (perfect!). The 60 amp capacity would be plenty, with no exploding batteries.
Make an ornate wood box, and you'd have a genuine mad scientist rig.
I’m not necessarily against all pod devices. I have a few I really like but look at the cost of the pods or if an rba is available before buying. I really like the vaporesso podstick. I bought a bunch cheap and got the pods for under $5 for a two pack. The first pod lasted two months with occasional use. However, some of the pod prices on some are a little ridiculous. I liked how the Orion vaped but quickly learned that I didn’t want to pay 4-5 per pod when they weren’t lasting me very long.
in 2015/2016 finding attys for squonkers was MUCH harder than it is today. Many of us were trying to figure out how to convert existing attys for bottom feed as one that already were tended to be pretty expensive or rare as hens teeth.Mr. @Rossum commented earlier about what people might be doing differently this time around in comparison to the 2016 stockpiling frenzy. My answer to that query is easily “BUY MORE SQUONKERS.”
I had purchased 5 REOs Mods in the spring of 2015. (PIF one to a very, very dear friend who used it to death.) Lots of REOs replacement parts - enough, I think, to carry through for at least five years, if not more, with good maintenance. Those have always been my vapeocalypse, End-of-Days strategy. Other items were what were en vogue at the time, which means I still have three Reauleauxs in cellophane-sealed boxes and practically unused IPV5s. (This is not to even mention random mods that are probably perfectly usable, but I do not “count” towards stocking up inventory.)
But even then, squonking had not gone mainstream enough to alert my attention to it as a central go-to option, plus, the variety of devices was still relatively niche outside of certain forums and FB groups. As I worked at a vape shop, I was mandated to use what we sold, and therefore most of my purchases reflected that. Anything I bought on the side was still mainly influenced by the more prominent discussions on this board, and even then I managed to spend a good deal of money.
I have always envied the people here who have such deep knowledge of artisan vape products and ability to fix and rebuild them. I am a creative person but quite inept at anything mathematical or of engineering. I have a hard time visualizing things without being very deliberate. So, for instance, if someone describes how to fix a mod, I hear the Charlie Brown adults “waah-waah” speak and I cannot follow.
Now that squonking is affordable, easy, and accessible, it is the obvious choice for ME to stockpile. I can drip all day long if need be, but IMO, for ME, squonking is even easier to maintain than an RTA. Y’all might remember I spoke of using the FireLuke Mesh tank for a solid 1.5 years before I just bought my Topside 90w + Profile, and my Serpent Elevate. The transition from drop-in coil tank to squonking was seamless, whereas I still have to fiddle with the RTA (which is still amazeballs).
Back in 2016 I just didn’t have a crystal ball to foresee the products available for purchase now. And that’s why I’m re-doing my stockpiling now.
::end of monologue::
The Kanger squonkers really were the beginning of squonkers going mainstream as I remember it. Yes the atty and bottles on em were hideous but they were affordable and more important in most vape shops.
I have a couple of squonkers from 2016ish that I am praying I never have to use. I can't stand the dang things. They are cheap knockoffs and really a nightmare to get to fire consistently (Fankenskull Clones).
I am finding as I sort through things I have one box that is basically the use as a last resort box and another that I might well before the deeming date just PIF. Planning to put a list on here of the potential PIF stuff when I finish going through everything. I have enough stuff I like now that I doubt I will ever need the stuff.
That’s not a bad price. I don’t know what it’s intended use is but would probably work if it’ll hold that voltage under load. I have a 0-60vdc power supply on my bench at work that was way more expensive and isn’t rated very high amperage.
One of the things in my PIF pile so far is an unopened Moti with a refillable pod. If you want it PM me an addy and I will try to get it sent out in the near future.Not sure just started one today to test it out
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