Are you for or against being able to vape indoors in public places?

[motordude]

Vapeydave said that I didn't.

 

[AndriaD]

Here in Portugal smokers still have bad habits: I see parents smoking in their cars with children's in the back... All vapers say that vaping is not smoking and that our rules must be different. I don't agree. Common people don't need to know that vaping is safer, why non smokers / non vapers would need that info? Can any vaper say, without the shadow of a doubt the that vaping or second hand vapor is 100% safe?

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Is there ANYTHING in the world that is 100% safe??? Nope. No need to hold vaping to an IMPOSSIBLE standard.

They need to know it so that they don't act like hysterical idiots when they see it.

Andria

 

[skoony]

Here in Portugal smokers still have bad habits: I see parents smoking in their cars with children's in the back... All vapers say that vaping is not smoking and that our rules must be different. I don't agree. Common people don't need to know that vaping is safer, why non smokers / non vapers would need that info? Can any vaper say, without the shadow of a doubt the that vaping or second hand vapor is 100% safe?

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I will. second vapor is 100% safe for otherwise
healthy people. I also believe it to be very safe
even for those which may have sensativetys
to any of the ingredients in the vapor.
regards
mike

 

[SleeZy]

I will. second vapor is 100% safe for otherwise
healthy people. I also believe it to be very safe
even for those which may have sensativetys
to any of the ingredients in the vapor.
regards
mike

Yepp as far as research goes 2nd vapor is no harm at all. Except one minor thing that might be an issue which is allergies.
I would be devastated if i vaped something with nutty taste and someone whos super allergic to nuts got a reaction. This isn't proven yet though.
Just for an example, my friends Ex GF was so allergic to nuts so she couldn't even be close to people who had recently eaten them.
And in this case a nutty vape may or may not cause allergy. I doubt it, but i can't tell for sure. (No research on that subject afaik)

But for the vapor itself it's harmless for second hand vape, atleast what the current research have shown.

Vaping itself isn't 100% harmless though(for us the vapers) i think we all can agree on that part. It's just way way safer then cigarettes.

I used to have a link to a second hand vape study, but i can't find it now.
I'ma dig some and see if i can find it.

 

[Jorge22]

I don't even know if I haven't replied to this yet, but anyway: for within reasonable boundaries as long as the experts still believe there's no such thing as "second-hand vaping" (in normal exposure situations, that is).

 

[DC2]

If a person has a problem with anything I do, whether it be vaping, the perfume I have on, or the way I choose to let my children behave, and they are too bashful to say anything it remains their problem.

The bashful, who may in many cases could be described as fearful, choose to avoid confrontation.
And then they try and get the nannies to fight their battles for them.

The more people afraid to stand up for what they believe in...
The more nannies are needed.

I will just leave it at that.

 

[DC2]

And we exhale vapor in a different way then we breath normally. Not saying it has more germs, but just as many would suffice...

How about far less? How would you feel then?

In fact, what if the vapor we exhale not only has far less germs...
But also kills germs in the ambient air?

Because, it probably does, and it probably does.

 

[DC2]

I say vape on. I find it difficult to regulate it rationally. Regulate for smell? What about poor hygiene and excessive perfume? For the "sight" of it? Consider free expression protects profanity on shirts, whorish apparel, and all sorts of lewd behavior. Don't want your kids to see it? Well turn on the TV and ads about boners and dry vaginas are no big deal. Whether it falls into tolerance or free speech I see no difference. Until it's undeniably proven harmful I say vape on. Otherwise I have a whole list of offensive crap I need banned.

This.

We should compare lists some day.
My list is pretty long, but I don't complain.

Live and let live should be the rule.
Unless there is PROVEN to be a potential for significant harm.

 

[snork]

I'm pondering something stupid and would like to know roughly what the maximum mls of eliquid the most hardcore cloud chaser can vaporize and inhale with one mighty effort. Any guesses?

 

[RavenZ]

I agree. It should be up to the individual business. The less government regulates my life the happier I am.

I agree
I do think you should be able to Vape inside Vape Shops, I mean let's face it, you're going into a vape shop so expect to see A LOT OF VAPE.

 

[Sicrano]

Look, why do we need to vape in places where smoking is forbidden? Can't we just make it simple and avoid such places to vape?

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[DC2]

Look, why do we need to vape in places where smoking is forbidden? Can't we just make it simple and avoid such places to vape?

So take all the ridiculous and ever-evolving restrictions put on smokers...
And just take ownership of them and internalize them now that we are vapers?

Make them our own...
Own them!

Why not do that?
Sure, why not.

How many reasons do you want?

 

[motordude]

Look, why do we need to vape in places where smoking is forbidden? Can't we just make it simple and avoid such places to vape?

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Because bottom line vaping IS NOT smoking.

 

[juggler86]

Fine Kattmomma you by got a point , kinda

The perfume arguement holds no merit to me because were I live people dont soak themselves in a gallon of it.

You do know that people can become allergice to things and not know it. Or you might not know your allergice to something until you exposed to it ex. Anise vapes, fron videos and what ive read man people had no idea they were allergic to anise until they start inhaling it.


Just becausr I find it rude doesnt mean it should be banned across the board. If you own a business it should be up to you to decide.

 

[Jode]

How about far less? How would you feel then?

In fact, what if the vapor we exhale not only has far less germs...
But also kills germs in the ambient air?

Because, it probably does, and it probably does.

Oh wow, see I just learned (or you reminded me rather) that because of the pg the exhaled vape would actually be less germy and clean the air at same time, hence using in hospitals. Did I get it right?

 

[AndriaD]

Yepp as far as research goes 2nd vapor is no harm at all. Except one minor thing that might be an issue which is allergies.
I would be devastated if i vaped something with nutty taste and someone whos super allergic to nuts got a reaction. This isn't proven yet though.
Just for an example, my friends Ex GF was so allergic to nuts so she couldn't even be close to people who had recently eaten them.
And in this case a nutty vape may or may not cause allergy. I doubt it, but i can't tell for sure. (No research on that subject afaik)

But for the vapor itself it's harmless for second hand vape, atleast what the current research have shown.

Vaping itself isn't 100% harmless though(for us the vapers) i think we all can agree on that part. It's just way way safer then cigarettes.

I used to have a link to a second hand vape study, but i can't find it now.
I'ma dig some and see if i can find it.

A lot of "nutty" flavored ejuice is flavored with acetyl pyrazine -- no relation at all to actual nuts, as far as I know.

The ones to be most careful of, would undoubtedly be "organic" types -- they'd have the same qualities as whatever the flavor is.

Andria

 

[beckdg]

Here in Portugal smokers still have bad habits: I see parents smoking in their cars with children's in the back... All vapers say that vaping is not smoking and that our rules must be different. I don't agree. Common people don't need to know that vaping is safer, why non smokers / non vapers would need that info? Can any vaper say, without the shadow of a doubt the that vaping or second hand vapor is 100% safe?

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This is America. Where you're innocent until proven guilty.

Can you justify limiting my liberties by proving without a shadow of a doubt that it is not?

Tapatyped

 

[beckdg]

Look, why do we need to vape in places where smoking is forbidden? Can't we just make it simple and avoid such places to vape?

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Hell no.

Do you realize in some municipalities it's illegal to smoke in the woods... or in the valleys, mountains, on the roof of a building... Where there is nobody to bother...

Etc.

I'm not interested in compounding idiocy... or factoring it.

I'd rather eliminate it.

But you can't shoot 90% of the population.

Tapatyped

 

[beckdg]

And allergies?

I need to hear some evidence that the impossible has happened at least once...

That someone has definitely had an allergic reaction to second hand vape... and its medically confirmed.

Tapatyped

 

[AndriaD]

This is America. Where you're innocent until proven guilty.

Can you justify limiting my liberties by proving without a shadow of a doubt that it is not?

Tapatyped

Yeah, and I smoked for years with my son in the car. There weren't any socialists in power to tell me I couldn't. I always had the window partially open, and if it still bothered him, I threw it out. Otherwise, it would have been FAR!!! more dangerous for me to be driving *without* smoking, because my mind would most certainly NOT have been on my driving, but on hurrying up to get where I could smoke -- rage, impatience, and an absent mind are the LAST things you want in a driver. At least, in America.

Andria