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Not sure why that bothers you. Lots of products in even grocery stores have the creators names and faces on it if they are/were famous. Paul Newman and Nolan Ryan products come to mind. However, what you buy or don't and why is 100% your prerogative, even if I disagree with the reasons.
If I buy it, it won't be for the pic, it's a bit frightening, frankly and I'm glad it's on the bottom of the box. I see no reason for them to include a pic of the inventors (however terrifying) if they want, though. 
I wasn't really a fan of Wheaties sports advertising either, and didn't they have the Juice on the box at one point? (I am really reaching into the deep well of my early years here). I wonder if those boxes are collectable now....
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I wasn't really a fan of Wheaties sports advertising either, and didn't they have the Juice on the box at one point? (I am really reaching into the deep well of my early years here). I wonder if those boxes are collectable now....
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I never ate Wheaties and the only person I ever remember being on it was Mary Lou Retton. I think Michael Phelps was on it recently. I did decide to google "OJ Simpson Wheaties" and couldn't find a box of Wheaties with him on it.......but.......I did find this:
"Enriched with more long chain molecules" What does that mean?
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This seems to indicate it was real, but was a third re-branding of the same cereal and very short lived.
Hoverboy Friday on Friday for a change!
Hoverboy Friday on Friday for a change!
I've seen it on presale on several websites already. I really want to see some real life reviews. The problem is that my go-to reviewer has always been Phil.
Don't Be Hesitate-Innokin Ares Mtl RTA Only $25.99!
Don't Be Hesitate-Innokin Ares Mtl RTA Only $25.99!
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BTW, from the picture on Innokin site, it looks like it's the V2 design--3 holes in a row? Whatcha think?
I will buy it even if Mr. Busardo give it "thumbs down"....lolI've seen it on presale on several websites already. I really want to see some real life reviews. The problem is that my go-to reviewer has always been Phil.
Hmmm.
That picture may be a bit deceiving.
I think the 'liquid barrier to help prevent leaking and seepage ' - ie: 'fins' is what is shown and are blocking the view of the diffuser.
I'm of the notion it will be the 7-hole diffuser.
Look for the 3-hole in Ares V2 -
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They failed to include:Well, they are all stealing from SvoeMesto, really.
Before that?
Historical Timeline of Electronic Cigarettes - CASAA
June 2011:
VapingTurtle tries an electronic cigarette and immediately stops a 38 year habit of 2 pack-a-day cigarette smoking.
(A very important milestone in the historical timeline.)
I'm going to line up with the people wondering how this thing is supposed to work and whether it will be any good at all. I just passed my 4 yr anniversary for vaping and in that time I've been MTL at least 95% of the time. I wasted a lot of money on atties that were claimed to be the new best thing.
First, a great MTL atty has to have everything working together from one end to another. Many makers have arranged for a small air flow, small chimney, reduced chamber, etc. I have yet to find a great atty with just one or two of those parts. I've even had a few that had all the right parts but failed miserably because the vapor was being asked to do things it didn't want to do. I won't bore people by getting into airflow management, velocity, atomization, or keeping the flavor traveling with the air stream - you know, Real Science stuff. But a reduced chimney won't produce a good MTL vape if a lot of things haven't gone right before it gets there.
So in light of all that, the chamber looks huge for MTL. Also, I'm not sure why you would want to raise the deck way off the bottom of the tank. As for emptying the tank, though some have mentioned that wicks will be run all the way to the bottom none of the photos so far show them below the build deck. There are more things that make me wonder, but this is too long already.
EVERY atty that I truly enjoy looks to have lots of thought put into the design - and I'm not talking about marketing thought or whether it looks right on today's mods. A Kabuki is legendary for very good reason. It's the best there is for premade coil mtl vaping, though the Nautilus 2/ .7 coil came amazingly close. For rebuildables, I enjoy (in order) the Narta, Narba, and Narda. I have 6 or 7 mods going all the time and a Hurricane is always in use. A ByKA, Cloud One, Kayfuns, and a Taifun get used from time to time. The items I named are sort of unicorns for a lot of people and I was lucky to get them. But the reason they're unicorns is because they are so much better.
Anyhow, I'd like to see the siren clone (I keed, I keed) join the ranks of the atties MTL vapers rave about. But I'm going to wait and see, and certainly won't be surprised if the vaping market is once again led astray by more sizzle than steak.
First, a great MTL atty has to have everything working together from one end to another. Many makers have arranged for a small air flow, small chimney, reduced chamber, etc. I have yet to find a great atty with just one or two of those parts. I've even had a few that had all the right parts but failed miserably because the vapor was being asked to do things it didn't want to do. I won't bore people by getting into airflow management, velocity, atomization, or keeping the flavor traveling with the air stream - you know, Real Science stuff. But a reduced chimney won't produce a good MTL vape if a lot of things haven't gone right before it gets there.
So in light of all that, the chamber looks huge for MTL. Also, I'm not sure why you would want to raise the deck way off the bottom of the tank. As for emptying the tank, though some have mentioned that wicks will be run all the way to the bottom none of the photos so far show them below the build deck. There are more things that make me wonder, but this is too long already.
EVERY atty that I truly enjoy looks to have lots of thought put into the design - and I'm not talking about marketing thought or whether it looks right on today's mods. A Kabuki is legendary for very good reason. It's the best there is for premade coil mtl vaping, though the Nautilus 2/ .7 coil came amazingly close. For rebuildables, I enjoy (in order) the Narta, Narba, and Narda. I have 6 or 7 mods going all the time and a Hurricane is always in use. A ByKA, Cloud One, Kayfuns, and a Taifun get used from time to time. The items I named are sort of unicorns for a lot of people and I was lucky to get them. But the reason they're unicorns is because they are so much better.
Anyhow, I'd like to see the siren clone (I keed, I keed) join the ranks of the atties MTL vapers rave about. But I'm going to wait and see, and certainly won't be surprised if the vaping market is once again led astray by more sizzle than steak.
@GeekyGeezer, I don't disagree with much of anything you post above. My MTL attributes I look for include the following:
- Simple single wire coils of 26 gauge or smaller
- Above 1 ohm builds
- Airflow coming from below coil with a 2 mm max path from AFC ring to inlet below coil
- Small/tight chamber
- Tight chimney
- Produces excellent flavor
- KF Lite (many variations/configs)
- Erlkonigin
- Gem V1
- GP Spheroid
- Gus Phenomenon
If the device sucks I'll be the first one to say so and discourage others from purchasing but, from what I can tell, these new devices seem to be getting it right (check the Siren V2, Berserker and Hastur threads for evidence and reviews).
As far as raising the deck off the bottom of the tank that is part of the design of a GTA tank (Genesis Tank Atomizer) and the reasons for doing that are discussed in a few threads. The Siren, Ares and Hastur are all GTA tanks, whereas the Berserker is a traditional RTA with the deck on the bottom.
by 'not rigorously enforced' i assume you meant 'not enforced at all' lol!Intellectual property rights laws (patent, trademark, copyright etc.) are not as rigorously enforced in China as they are elsewhere.
And your list jogged my memory about another great tank - the Heron V2. Tremendous flavor but likes to be a bit disagreeable.
I have one and love it but to your point, it's a bit of faff so doesn't get as much use as some others.
Erlkonigin - still the best RTA ever IMO.
I've never checked out the Gem.
Looks interesting!
The Siren V2 must have used it as a 'bling-style-guide'.
And seems the Gem 'borrowed' the Erlkonigins' 2 fill ports,
and has a similar juice-feed.
Fun!
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