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Also, some may be concerned about the Dr. Farsilanos thing regarding metal dangers when dry burning, but that's not why I avoid it.
I use SS fry pans and lay it on a red hot glowing burner to cook food. I figger that woulda killed me by now if it were lethal.
 

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I seen a video once of a guy rinsing it under water, then dry it with a cloth, then dry burn it, he repeated this a couple times, so I tried that then figured I could build one way faster so haven't bothered with the price of wire being so cheap
Too much farting around. And overkill.
 

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Do you wash under water at all? What do you brush it with? metal brush or?

I take the wick out. Put the mode in wattage mode (I vape tc ss316l wire). Put it around 10 watts. Heat it up just a tad. Where I can see the junk burning off, starting to heat up, let off the power. Take a wet q-tip, and rub the hot coil. Do this a few handful of times, when I'm good, throw a new wick in it. I do this every 1-2 days all depending on the juice I'm using. I try to throw a new coil in every month or so. Sometimes, it's closer to 3-6 months. I have read a few things that certain wire you shouldn't dry burn, shouldn't make it glowing bright ... red, etc etc. I read something awhile back, that with ss316l, you shouldn't make it glow red.
 

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Since I've been rebuilding my rta's, when I need to re-wick I just build a new coil every time. I'm wondering if most do this or do they clean their coil and if so how do you clean it and is it worth it?
I use my coils for many months. When I rewick I open her up and rinse deck, I then pull old wick. I then dry off deck completely and then dry burn coil. I just pulse burn, not to hot then I brush coil and fire again.

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I use my coils for many months. When I rewick I open her up and rinse deck, I then pull old wick. I then dry off deck completely and then dry burn coil. I just pulse burn, not to hot then I brush coil and fire again.

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Is it just as good as putting a new coil in? why do you do this, cost savings?
 
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Material, gauge (or mm), ID, wraps?

I’m looking for some inspiration. A while ago I fell back to the stinkies, because I felt like constantly dicking around with a gurgling and sometimes leaking Prime in TC on a Jac V B and a gurgling KM3 and meh AF Siren 2 on a VaporFlask Lite with sketch TC wasn’t working for me. And I’ve even messed with 14mm RDA’s and Gennies in the past. I feel like this shouldn’t be this hard.

Currently on a Nautilus AIO with nicsalts (disliked the TH above 6mg), which will be great to fall back on. But I really still love the idea of rebuildables and there’s no AF as smooth as the Prime’s.

And I’ve just taken it off the shelf, washed and cleaned it again. I’m just sitting here, not really motivated to get back on the horse. But I feel it would be good to. Maybe getting some 28gauge (0.3 or 0.32mm) SS wire. I loved 26g, because it’s stiffer, but the tank gets too warm to my liking. And I’ll just replace all the o-rings to be sure it’s all UE (the leakage).

Material, gauge (or mm), ID, wraps?

I’m looking for some inspiration. A while ago I fell back to the stinkies, because I felt like constantly dicking around with a gurgling and sometimes leaking Prime in TC on a Jac V B and a gurgling KM3 and meh AF Siren 2 on a VaporFlask Lite with sketch TC wasn’t working for me. And I’ve even messed with 14mm RDA’s and Gennies in the past. I feel like this shouldn’t be this hard.

Currently on a Nautilus AIO with nicsalts (disliked the TH above 6mg), which will be great to fall back on. But I really still love the idea of rebuildables and there’s no AF as smooth as the Prime’s.

And I’ve just taken it off the shelf, washed and cleaned it again. I’m just sitting here, not really motivated to get back on the horse. But I feel it would be good to. Maybe getting some 28gauge (0.3 or 0.32mm) SS wire. I loved 26g, because it’s stiffer, but the tank gets too warm to my liking. And I’ll just replace all the o-rings to be sure it’s all UE (the leakage).

I think it's a wicking issue as type of coil, ID, etc won't stop gurgling or leaking. Imo those are usually caused by under wicking in the channels. I use 26g and 2.4mm ID at 23 watts and my km3 or prime never ever gets even remotely warn. I would try a bit more cotton , which should add a bit more in channels

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I think it's a wicking issue as type of coil, ID, etc won't stop gurgling or leaking. Imo those are usually caused by under wicking in the channels. I use 26g and 2.4mm ID at 23 watts and my km3 or prime never ever gets even remotely warn. I would try a bit more cotton , which should add a bit more in channels

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Yeah my prime never gets warm at all, but have noticed my Dvarw does...maybe I'm under wicking the Dvarw
 
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My darvw stays cool too. I guess it might depend on if someone chains the heck out of it, cause that might get it warmer or perhaps coil position? Maybe a real high coil might get a bit of heat towards the top? I dont chain, so not sure if that can be it, but my thinking is if the coils is well wicked and saturated, then it shouldn't really get that hot. .
Yeah my prime never gets warm at all, but have noticed my Dvarw does...maybe I'm under wicking the Dvarw

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Turns out I had some 28G 316L laying around, so went yolo and got my baby back online.

I love it and I hate it. Think I spent 50 minutes on it. My motorical skills are about non-existent (shaky af, ever since I was a kid) and couldn’t find pads so had to use Flash (pads are way easier to size). But I hope I can get the wicking right. Maybe I won’t mind rewicking once or twice a week or just go POD style whenever I can’t or won’t for some reason.
The quality of the vape is just so much better, though. :wub:
Can’t believe I have been missing out on this, again.
 

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Turns out I had some 28G 316L laying around, so went yolo and got my baby back online.

I love it and I hate it. Think I spent 50 minutes on it. My motorical skills are about non-existent (shaky af, ever since I was a kid) and couldn’t find pads so had to use Flash (pads are way easier to size). But I hope I can get the wicking right. Maybe I won’t mind rewicking once or twice a week or just go POD style whenever I can’t or won’t for some reason.
The quality of the vape is just so much better, though. :wub:
Can’t believe I have been missing out on this, again.
Let er rip!
 

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Yeah my prime never gets warm at all, but have noticed my Dvarw does...maybe I'm under wicking the Dvarw
Just vaped both and I agree, the base of the darvw does get slightly warm, whereas the prime does not. No doubt because the prime has a bit more heft.

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Kinda crazy, after exploring the whole vaping thing since 2012 and then coming full circle, feeling like a noob again. :lol: I'm just glad I've found a good thing to fall back on. I'm not too proud or stubborn for drop-ins anymore and I like the POD thing for on the go. I just bring 2 extras for different flavors and in case a coil fails. But man... there's nothing like a good build in a Prime. I do feel I have to up my wicking game. The wicking doesn't feel optimal, it can feel a bit dry with too long of a toke and that's with the jc about 1 3/4th turn open.
Coiling and wicking the Siren 2 was a breeze, but I've not been into the af on that thing and I'm going to get rid of it.

Anyway, thanks for the inspiration. Good to just get back on the horse.
At some point I might even get a bunch of insulators and complete spares set for the KM3, because that thing is just leaky beyond wicking issues. Plus the plastic af screws are supposed to help with the gurgling. Still don't like the metal driptip, though. We'll see. I was planning on finding a Dicodes Tiny for it, but first I'd have to become friends with it again. Because there were definitely times I was friends with the KM3. And definitely with the Prime, as well.

And there were multiple reasons for falling back on the stinkies. Lots of problems, not being able to find a good taste, don't like the TH of above 6mg, crazy busy with work, no time, other substance abuse. So not meant to hate on RTA's or KF's. I love 'em. It's just... life, man. Just glad to be back. :banana:
 

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Turns out I had some 28G 316L laying around, so went yolo and got my baby back online.

I love it and I hate it. Think I spent 50 minutes on it. My motorical skills are about non-existent (shaky af, ever since I was a kid) and couldn’t find pads so had to use Flash (pads are way easier to size). But I hope I can get the wicking right. Maybe I won’t mind rewicking once or twice a week or just go POD style whenever I can’t or won’t for some reason.
The quality of the vape is just so much better, though. :wub:
Can’t believe I have been missing out on this, again.

Nice looking setup, the Jac always looks so perdy with it
 

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After long time of using ready coilheads (Aspire, Joytech etc.) as I was too "left handed" to build coils myself when I started vaping.
Then Golden Greek came out with the Tilemahos, Armed and Eagle with these great zirconia clip-in springs even I could handle.
Then my son came around (coiling himself) and joking around at his old father too stupid to build his own coils.
So I went to a shop and came out with a coil master set and a Prime as the best MTL tank available. He also sold me another wire, as the one provided in the box is far too stiff and springy for a beginner.
The wire he sold me is marked KA1, 28ga 0,321mm (whatever this may mean)
My first try took me good over half an hour and resulted in 0,7 Ohm, (where I like most between 1 and 1,5.)
Biggest problem was to screw it in, without constantly getting short circuits.
But the result was worth all the effort! The taste is the best I ever had, and no leaking at all (as long as you don't forget to close the tank when refilling :)

Now my question would be:
Which diameter of the coiling tool (15 to 40 in steps of 5 are included) is the optimum for the Prime?
I also got 2 Dicodes sample wires. Would they need another diameter?


Theoretically theory and praxis are equal.
Practically not.
 
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Kinda crazy, after exploring the whole vaping thing since 2012 and then coming full circle, feeling like a noob again. [emoji38] I'm just glad I've found a good thing to fall back on. I'm not too proud or stubborn for drop-ins anymore and I like the POD thing for on the go. I just bring 2 extras for different flavors and in case a coil fails. But man... there's nothing like a good build in a Prime. I do feel I have to up my wicking game. The wicking doesn't feel optimal, it can feel a bit dry with too long of a toke and that's with the jc about 1 3/4th turn open.
Coiling and wicking the Siren 2 was a breeze, but I've not been into the af on that thing and I'm going to get rid of it.

Anyway, thanks for the inspiration. Good to just get back on the horse.
At some point I might even get a bunch of insulators and complete spares set for the KM3, because that thing is just leaky beyond wicking issues. Plus the plastic af screws are supposed to help with the gurgling. Still don't like the metal driptip, though. We'll see. I was planning on finding a Dicodes Tiny for it, but first I'd have to become friends with it again. Because there were definitely times I was friends with the KM3. And definitely with the Prime, as well.

And there were multiple reasons for falling back on the stinkies. Lots of problems, not being able to find a good taste, don't like the TH of above 6mg, crazy busy with work, no time, other substance abuse. So not meant to hate on RTA's or KF's. I love 'em. It's just... life, man. Just glad to be back. :banana:
Hopefully you'll nail it this time and keep in mind that if you ever wanted, you can send them to me. I can check them out thouroly and put in a build to check. If it happens that perhaps it was just a slight issue with the way you wicked it, I could send it back with it wicked and ready to go, this way you might get a visual .

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came out with a coil master set and a Prime
Congratulations! Good stuff.
The wire he sold me is marked KA1, 28ga 0,321mm (whatever this may mean)
Kanthal A1 is the type of material, 28ga(gauge) is imperial measurement shenanigans, but 0,321mm is a more accurate measurement of the diameter of the wire.
Biggest problem was to screw it in, without constantly getting short circuits.
It can be finicky, yes. But as soon as you know how to trap the leads and have a good tool to cut off the excess material you're golden.
But the result was worth all the effort! The taste is the best I ever had, and no leaking at all (as long as you don't forget to close the tank when refilling :)
Hahaha, yeah, can remember forgetting the juiceflow on other tanks when I started. Can get a bit messy.
Which diameter of the coiling tool (15 to 40 in steps of 5 are included) is the optimum for the Prime?
I'm going to leave this answer to the pros, but I guess 2mm or 2,5mm is the best ID. This still leaves enough space for enough wick. The build deck is not wide and if the wire sticks out too much it will push too much against the cotton and make it gurgle as well. At least in my experience. So that's why I go for 2,5mm ID.


Hopefully you'll nail it this time and keep in mind that if you ever wanted, you can send them to me. I can check them out thouroly and put in a build to check.
Thanks for the offer, but shipping between FL and Europe is going to be a bit expensive. I did check your video in the OP, though, so thank you for that. I think I got it now. Maybe a little less tight wicking (inside the coil) next time (cotton), but it's vaping magnificently now. I think, for me, it's a matter of learning how (much) to trim the wick.
 

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Yes the trim is crucial in the prime.....glad to see it working good now
Congratulations! Good stuff.

Kanthal A1 is the type of material, 28ga(gauge) is imperial measurement shenanigans, but 0,321mm is a more accurate measurement of the diameter of the wire.

It can be finicky, yes. But as soon as you know how to trap the leads and have a good tool to cut off the excess material you're golden.

Hahaha, yeah, can remember forgetting the juiceflow on other tanks when I started. Can get a bit messy.

I'm going to leave this answer to the pros, but I guess 2mm or 2,5mm is the best ID. This still leaves enough space for enough wick. The build deck is not wide and if the wire sticks out too much it will push too much against the cotton and make it gurgle as well. At least in my experience. So that's why I go for 2,5mm ID.



Thanks for the offer, but shipping between FL and Europe is going to be a bit expensive. I did check your video in the OP, though, so thank you for that. I think I got it now. Maybe a little less tight wicking (inside the coil) next time (cotton), but it's vaping magnificently now. I think, for me, it's a matter of learning how (much) to trim the wick.

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So is your avatar bones holding up that medicine that he inadvertently injected? Maybe city on the edge of forever(or something close to that) the one with Joan Collins.

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I have no idea really, I choose that a long time ago because it looked a lot like a Vape devise. I am a fan of Star Trek, but I don't have the episodes memorized. :oops:

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