I appreciate your input. And again, I agree with you on some points. However, I am talking about gaining public respect and backing for PV's. Please understand Emp... my stance is simply that Saying "Nanenanenana...look what I can do... I can GET AROUND the smoking bans...and continue to "smoke" in front of, and next to, all you smoke haters!! hahahaha!!!" is NOW NOT the way we as respectable vapers should be conducting ourselves. PERCEPTION.
My best,
-VP
Hi Pete,
I doubt if anybody's doing that, regardless of the heat in the conversations on here (which I am occasionally guilty of turning up).
I saw a post of yours on another thread along the lines of "if you can't SMOKE here, I won't VAPE here". Not really arguing with your choices, wouldn't impose mine on you. (Choices, that is - I would impose my harmless vapour on ya)
However, given that I bought the thing precisely to vape where I used to smoke, my position is different. My primary socialisation is in bars and the ban was a big deal for me (and most of the regular patrons).
Guilty as charged as far as getting round the ban, and I think the core of any disagreement we might have is right there. I do use my e-cigs publicly because I want people to become accustomed to seeing something that looks like smoking without assuming it's a hot cig and having a fit (I go redline if someone screeches at me). Hanging with the smokers won't achieve that (non-smokers don't go near the smoking shelters and tend not to look at them, in my experience). As I said earlier (maybe another thread), smokers aren't the people who need to be convinced. In my experience, most non-smokers don't really give a crap about vaping, or smoking, one way or the other. The evangelists do, though, and they're the people I welcome vocal disagreement with.
Somewhere up the line Lu posted about not vaping in a library. I got all arsey about her use of the term flaunting but I think in retrospect I should have made a more obvious point, ie who
would smoke or vape in a library?
I vape in bars, theatres, sports stadia, trains and aircraft. All places where I used to smoke.
The meat of the several threads on this issue seems to be:
a) don't vape in public because it will be badly received which may motivate blissfully unaware disapprovers to actively push for a ban / don't vape in public to be considerate to other people because they may be upset by the appearance of smoking.
b) Vape in public as is your right with a (currently) legal device / I'm not doing anything wrong, in fact this is healthier for
me and the bystanders so screw the dissenters.
What it comes down to for me is I see more value (and more chance of acceptance) in doing it openly than in trooping off with the poor sods still stuck on analogs.
I also think the proponents of either viewpoint are pretty much polarised - and never the twain...
All the best
Emp
