Best tobacco for flavor extraction

[67Tele]

Thanks faris!

 

[Exchaner]

Hi Everyone, Is this a legitimate website? I went to order American spirit for the first time, and they wanted me to register before I placed the item in the cart. Then they rejected my registration asking me to call for age verification. Never had this happen before !!

Lil' Brown Smoke Shack - Cigars - Rolling & Pipe Tobacco

 

[Vapenstein]

yeah if you want something that makes a more cigarette-y extract use Kentucky or Latakia

 

[aceswired]

Hi Everyone, Is this a legitimate website? I went to order American spirit for the first time, and they wanted me to register before I placed the item in the cart. Then they rejected my registration asking me to call for age verification. Never had this happen before !!

Lil' Brown Smoke Shack - Cigars - Rolling & Pipe Tobacco

Probably state - level regulation. Wouldn't worry me much.

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[usr/]

Hello everyone; I am looking for a few tobaccos similar in flavor to cigarettes - not cigars. Any suggestions? I have already tried Organic Spirit - with and without Perique and love them both. About to place an order for Nightcap and Louisiana Red. Was wondering if there are other candidates I could try.

I'm getting closer and closer to that using 3% Blending-Dark Fired Kentucky Burley, 1% Blending-Izmir Ribbon Cut both from P&C and 2% American Spirit Organic. 60/40 pg/vg 12 mg nic 1.2 ohm spaced coil @ 10.5-12.5w kgd cotton in Taifun GS. Many may find this a bland smok but I'm lovin' it. vaping this right now, but may mix up another 30 ml with the addition of a little INW DNB maybe .5 to 1% and put it away to age some after mixing. But to be honest with you, I've forgotten how a cigarette tastes! Lol! 2½ years quit, after 42 years of smoking but still chase that cigarette likeness. I never recommend NET's to vapers but I think a lot of long time smokers trying to quit with vaping could transition better with this type of vape, and may be more successful than trying to use flavored juices or sweet types of synthetic tobaccos. This seems more like a natural smoke. I don't know, just a thought.

 

[PapawBrett]

Looking over the P&C website, literally hundreds of choices. Maybe by this weekend I'll get my first order in, wish list has to be pared down first. Has anyone ever tried McLelland Ave RSVP, Scotty's Trout Stream or Sutliff Vanilla Custard ? They are all mild/medium, mostly Virginia/ Cavendish and all supposedly include a Vanilla top note...
Might not be what some like, but I tend to gravitate that way.

 

[farisjc]

Looking over the P&C website, literally hundreds of choices. Maybe by this weekend I'll get my first order in, wish list has to be pared down first. Has anyone ever tried McLelland Ave RSVP, Scotty's Trout Stream or Sutliff Vanilla Custard ? They are all mild/medium, mostly Virginia/ Cavendish and all supposedly include a Vanilla top note...
Might not be what some like, but I tend to gravitate that way.

I've had my eye on Trout Stream for a while. One vanilla aromatic that everyone should try though is Molto Dulce. So good

 

[Str8vision]

Unfortunately, my P&C cart is usually over loaded, so far I have around thirty different tobaccos selected. In the past I avoided aromatic/flavored tobaccos and gravitated toward straight, lightly cased tobacco blends instead. Since I enjoy hybrid NETs, I would simply add concentrated flavorings (like "Holy Vanilla", "French Vanilla", "Caramel Candy" etc...), to extracts when mixing.

This Winter will be different, with aromatic tobaccos included on the list. Sutliff's "Vanilla Custard", and "Black Vanilla" will be coming along with vanillas from Peter Stokkebye, Newminster, Mac Baren and CAO. It would be great if the vanilla casings carry over into the extracts and tastes as good as what I currently custom mix. This is relatively new territory for me, the -one- flavored tobacco I previously extracted (years ago), didn't impress me and is why, until now, I have avoided aromatic blends.

 

[Str8vision]

I've had my eye on Trout Stream for a while. One vanilla aromatic that everyone should try though is Molto Dulce. So good

Added to the cart!

 

[67Tele]

This is what I have coming from P&C. I was a bit freaked out at spending $50 but, I then thought of how much extract I should get and how much juice I should get from that.
G&H Black Twist Sliced1 OZ
G&H Rum Twist1 OZ
GL Pease JackKnife Ready Rubbed2 OZ TIN
Anniversary Kake 1.5oz1.5OZ TIN
Samuel Gawith Full Virginia Flake Bulk1 OZ
Samuel Gawith St. James Flake1
Sutliff Voodoo Queen1 OZ PT- (Ordered because bommerdude's extract is excellent!)
Dunhill Elizabethan Mixture1.76OZ
Samuel Gawith 1792 Flake1 OZ

 

[Str8vision]

Sutliff "Voodoo Queen" is in my top three. For me it requires significant aging before reaching its flavor potential same with H&H "Louisiana Red".

 

[PapawBrett]

I think I've narrowed it down, first order from P&C looking like this;
Aromatics;
Decatur Black Cherry - PipesandCigars.com
Lane 1Q - PipesandCigars.com
Newminster No. 24 Imperial Nougat - PipesandCigars.com
Russ' Monthly Blend - Apple Fritter - PipesandCigars.com
HPCS Trout Stream - PipesandCigars.com
Sutliff Dark Honey Berry - PipesandCigars.com
Sutliff Vanilla Custard - PipesandCigars.com
Peter Stokkebye 84 Turkish - PipesandCigars.com
Non-Aromatics;
Hearth & Home Signature Louisiana Red - PipesandCigars.com
Orlik Golden Sliced - PipesandCigars.com
Peter Stokkebye 17 English Luxury - PipesandCigars.com
Sutliff Voodoo Queen - PipesandCigars.com

Hope to have these set up in Cold Maceration (PG) by Thanksgiving. With two weeks off at the ends of the year I might get to taste test a few by Jan 1st !
(hope they don't all suck )

 

[Str8vision]

Be sure to share your thoughts, opinions and observations as you begin in-process sampling your extractions. I think you're going to be -pleasantly- surprised with several of those blends. Just remember, when extracting tobacco at room temperature using PG as the extraction solvent, the longer it soaks the better the flavor will be.

 

[67Tele]

Hope to have these set up in Cold Maceration (PG) by Thanksgiving. With two weeks off at the ends of the year I might get to taste test a few by Jan 1st !

That's what I'm hoping for too. I should have a few ready by turkey day. I also have a couple of weeks off at the years end and hope I'll be testing the rest of them.

 

[PapawBrett]

Be sure to share your thoughts, opinions and observations as you begin in-process sampling your extractions. I think you're going to be -pleasantly- surprised with several of those blends. Just remember, when extracting tobacco at room temperature using PG as the extraction solvent, the longer it soaks the better the flavor will be.

Thoughts, opinions and observations ? I think I just spent another $35 or so at Amazon for lab filter papers and a 13cm funnel. It is my opinion between three types (slow, medium, fast) of lab filters I might find a decent filtration for my extracts. And my observation, so far, is that it is easy to get impatient once the extracts are set up for cold maceration. Which is why I might try six weeks. Just to make sure

 

[Str8vision]

Performing a cold PG based extraction can -certainly- test one's patience, the s l o w e s t of all methods to be sure but it's also the most forgiving as well. The good news is, once you have a storage cabinet full of various finished extracts, time isn't as much of a concern. I currently have two cold PG extractions going, both were started last March. I'm curious to see what impact (if any), such a long soak has on flavor and performance. Prior to this, three months was the longest I had allowed tobacco to soak and those extracts yielded -exceptional- flavor. Even so, I won't likely be conducting any future PG based extractions since I've moved to using ethanol (PGA) as the primary extraction solvent.

 

[Bunnykiller]

welcome to DIYNET Papaw...

 

[PapawBrett]

welcome to DIYNET Papaw...

I ain't there yet, BK. Just doing a little "trip planning" (trucker lingo).
Maybe in about three months or so I'll begin to know where I am going....

 

[Str8vision]

Once you've tasted the results of a three month cold extraction and discover it tastes better than retail NET you'll be impressed. When you calculate it only costs around $0.06 per ml to make that outstanding extract and compare that to the $1+ per ml the retailers charge for an inferior version of the same, you'll be hooked. When government regulation/taxation kicks in and you're still able to enjoy the best NET available for -mere pennies- you'll be ecstatic.

 

[aceswired]

Seems like filtration is really the only major upfront expense.

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