Best tobacco for flavor extraction

[misterD]

I decided to follow str8V PGA heated extraction and noticed that the everclear I had was the 151% proof. only had enough to prepare Sutliff Voodoo Queen, Rocky Patel Vintage '90, McClelland Avenue Blend Nutty Hazel and Sutliff Apple Flavor which I'm currently filtering at a very slow pace relying on gravity after it spent 3 days on the freezer. smells very good and I'm optimistic about it. I'm afraid I ruined the Voodoo and the Patel cigar for I left on the slow cooker set on low and when I noticed my mistake 4 hours circa had gone by
anyhow thank you all (especially str8V) for all the info I gathered and I'll make sure to come back to let ya know how the concoctions came out as a final product!

 

[jonnydoe]

Hello. I am searching tobaccos like the sun curred turkish juice from net.com:

Sun-Cured Turkish

Do any of you have an idea which tobacco to buy for extraction ? Oriental or turkish blend, okay. But their are so many.

Also i am searching a good virginia and burley without darker tobaccos.
On my buying list is only american spirit organic and Samuel Gawith Full Virginia Flake. I need some more.

Help me, please...

 

[yourgurnard]

I know that others here don't like wholeleaf tobacco for extraction but for the Virg. & Burley, I'd get 20g. samples from wholeleaftobaccoonly.com....Red virg. & Aged Burley. I've extracted these before, as well as the Sam. Gaw. Full flake...I did n't find that the S/G was THAT much better than the RV Leaf...not when You consider the price difference!
I've got S/G Burley soaking at the moment, so I'll have to reserve comparative judgement for a while on that!

Edit:- Forgot!...the above Vendor also does a 'Semi-Oriental' Leaf that might suit You as well...

 

[usr/]

Interesting read on roasting and casing. May be an option for preparing whole leaf for extracting. Just a thought.


http://fairtradetobacco.com/threads/5041-Casing-and-roasting-oriental-for-cigs

Finishing Tobacco

 

[Bagazo]

Interesting read on roasting and casing. May be an option for preparing whole leaf for extracting. Just a thought.

Casings usually contain sugar, cocoa, licorice and fruit extracts which seem to play well with tobacco when it is burned but it seems like it is alot of the stuff we are trying to filter out.

 

[usr/]

Casings usually contain sugar, cocoa, licorice and fruit extracts which seem to play well with tobacco when it is burned but it seems like it is alot of the stuff we are trying to filter out.

After reading through the forums, some home growers roast tobacco to alter the flavor of certain tobaccos. Some were even experimenting with concentrated e-liquid flavorings to make casing for their tobaccos. Upon removing from heat, spaying with the flavored mixtures allowing them to be absorbed into the tobacco, along with using pure grains, bourbons and rums. Seems it would give you more control over the amount of sugar introduced to the leaf, versus commercial tobaccos that are soaked with molasses, licorice, honey and sugar mixtures. I think we all agree that sugars are all but impossible to remove. I haven't experimented with any whole leaf yet but plan to do so. Just giving it some thought.

 

[Bagazo]

Upon removing from heat, spaying with the flavored mixtures allowing them to be absorbed into the tobacco, along with using pure grains, bourbons and rums.

My point was that you could just add the flavor, Lorann for example, to the finished juice withut adding things that you will end up trying to filter out of your extracts.

Sugars are a good example because they will get through most of the filters used here (1 micron). So, honey flavor, for example, without the sugars should be cleaner and easier on our coils.

Many of the recipes on that site are traditional casing with the ingredients I mentioned.

 

[usr/]

My point was that you could just add the flavor, Lorann for example, to the finished juice withut adding things that you will end up trying to filter out of your extracts.

Sugars are a good example because they will get through most of the filters used here (1 micron). So, honey flavor, for example, without the sugars should be cleaner and easier on our coils.

Many of the recipes on that site are traditional casing with the ingredients I mentioned.

Point taken. That's what I find so great about experimenting with these processes, failure or taking the long way around is never a disappointment.

 

[67Tele]

Morning All
I have a quick question about filtering. I'll be extracting my first three tobaccos that have had about 7 weeks of cold soaking.

On hand are:
Pleated white coffee filters
Ahlstrom: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006H8WMFU?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00
and a Nut Bag: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G3ZHOLY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00

Should I filter in three steps or can I skip the coffee filters?

Apologies for straying a little off-track and thanks!

 

[aceswired]

I'd step it. Will keep things flowing. If you're really clever, you could set up a three-stage filtering all stacked together.

 

[67Tele]

Thanks aces! I'll set it up like that. I've got three coffee filter holders from old makers that've stopped working and two more coming from Amazon that should be here Friday.

 

[Str8vision]

I would use the nut bag for separating the tobacco and solvent (extract), followed by a quick gravity flow through the coffee filter and finally the l-o-n-g gravity flow through the pleated 2.5 micron filter paper. I don't think the cone shaped pleated filter paper (made for use in a funnel), and a flat bottomed coffee filter (made for use in a flat bottomed filter basket), would mesh together for a one step approach. If they do, be sure and let us know.

 

[67Tele]

Funnels are on hand for such an emergency...hehe. Thanks for the tip. I usually miss the obvious. And, I was thinking the Nut Bag was the last step. I'll move it to the top.

Thanks for the help!

 

[Str8vision]

The nut bag should make squeezing extract from the saturated tobacco quite easy, let me know how it works.

 

[67Tele]

Like a proud new Papa:

From 1oz of: Peter Stokkebye 302 Black Cherry Cavendish - PipesandCigars.com

The nut sack worked great with very fast flow by squeezing it a bit (there's so much wrong with that sentence....but, I digress). Learned that I need to filter into something wider and deeper. Some of it leached out and on to the counter (bummer!)

It's in the coffee filter now then off to watch the paper folding vid again.

Thanks for everything!

 

[Str8vision]

Great pic! And thanks for the positive feedback on using a nutbag for the separation stage of the process, it seemed ideal.

 

[aceswired]

Great job with the nut sack.

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[nostradadus]

I've had good success using a ricer for this process. I place a coffee filter into the ricer, dump my tobacco into the filter, gently fold the filter around the tobacco/liquid and and press away; squeezes out just about every drop of liquid.

 

[67Tele]

View attachment 509132 I've had good success using a ricer for this process. I place a coffee filter into the ricer, dump my tobacco into the filter, gently fold the filter around the tobacco/liquid and and press away; squeezes out just about every drop of liquid.

I like that thing! Could that be an intermediate step between the nut bag and the first coffee drip filtering? Use the nut bag to isolate the remaining tobacco and put it in the ricer and squeeze?

 

[Str8vision]