So am I. The first cigarette I ever tried was an English type. Sweet talked my English teacher, who was British, into letting me try one of her smokes.
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So am I. The first cigarette I ever tried was an English type. Sweet talked my English teacher, who was British, into letting me try one of her smokes.
Burley, Cavendish, Oriental, Dark fired Kentucky, Perique and Turkish tobaccos. Definitely adds a smoky "thump", I think Latakia blends well with anything you want to mix it with. Missouri Meerschaum's "American Patriot" (the tobacco I suspect Nick at GEJ uses to make "Patriot"), has a good amount of Latakia to compliment the Burley, Virginia and Turkish tobaccos its blended with. Several manufacturers (like GL Pease, Cornell & Diehl), use Latakia in over half of the blends they manufacture. I like it with Burley, Virginia and Black Cavendish, a smattering of Perique doesn't hurt anything either. Most of the "heavy hitter" pipe tobacco blends use Latakia in the mix. Give Cornell & Diehl Mississippi Mud a try, a -stout- Black Cavendish, Latakia and Perique blend. Sutliff Court of St. James is a Perique heavy VaPer with Latakia added for effect. Cornell & Diehl Billy Budd blends Burley, Latakia, Cigar Leaf and Virginia together for a unique taste.
When I'm looking at descriptions of tobacco blends to extract the first thing I look for is whether the blend contains Latakia, if it does I just pass on it. This is just a personal preference. I love/hate it. The two I've done that are heavy Latakia blends are H&H 10 to Midnight (tastes like MOV Apache) and The Smoker Red Virginia Supreme (which is no longer available). I get an itch for it occasionally, so I get into the TSRVS but can't vape it for very long, and then I put it away. I always wondered what type of wood they used and saw on the wiki that it's Stone Pine and Oak. I agree with str8 that it would blend with any type of tobacco extract. I can taste it, even in small amounts. Makes me want to smoke some to see what it's like when it's burned. Interesting video, thanks for posting.
Thank you very much Str8vision for that list - a big menu to choose from. I think I will start with the Missouri Meerschaum you mentioned. Nick does not list that as an ingredient in the description of Patriot - perhaps for good reason
... And oh yeah, a bit of Perique definitely does not hurt anything at all. In fact it can bring a dead juice alive. I can vape it all by itself, all day - even though most people use it as a condiment, not the main ingredient. I do not find it too harsh despite its reputation to the contrary - a fruity taste that reminds me of plums. I mix it at 4-5 percent and get plenty of flavor. Not to be sexist, but I consider it a man's tobacco, bold and flavorful.Happy New Year Everyone.
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make note of the brands of tobacco offered by Pipes and Cigars in the video. then go to each of these blends fond on the P&C web. there you will find what makes up the blend of the brand mentioned. I have seen perique, cavendish and orientals, yellow and red virginias used in various amounts.
The problem is you can blend single varietals together in the same proportions as found in a favorite commercial blend but it won't taste anything like it. The curing of the tobaccos and casings added are what determines extracted flavor, more so than the types of tobacco in play.
Some interesting trivia; Latakia is actually Oriental/Turkish tobacco that is fire (smoke), cured. Turkish tobacco is actually Oriental tobacco grown in a different geographic region however Virginia is always Virginia regardless of where on Earth it's grown. Cavendish is actually any type of tobacco that has been steam and pressure cured with flavored casings added, and Perique derives all it's flavor from the unique pressure/fermentation curing process it's subjected to which is why no two brands of Perique taste anything alike. Much of the Perique used in pipe tobacco blends is actually made using Kentucky Green River Burley, not true Perique.
Some interesting trivia; Latakia is actually Oriental/Turkish tobacco that is fire (smoke), cured. Turkish tobacco is actually Oriental tobacco grown in a different geographic region however Virginia is always Virginia regardless of where on Earth it's grown. Cavendish is actually any type of tobacco that has been steam and pressure cured with flavored casings added, and Perique derives all it's flavor from the unique pressure/fermentation curing process it's subjected to which is why no two brands of Perique taste anything alike. Much of the Perique used in pipe tobacco blends is actually made using Kentucky Green River Burley, not true Perique.
The problem is you can blend single varietals together in the same proportions as found in a favorite commercial blend but it won't taste anything like it. The curing of the tobaccos and casings added are what determines extracted flavor, more so than the types of tobacco in play.
Some interesting trivia; Latakia is actually Oriental/Turkish tobacco that is fire (smoke), cured. Turkish tobacco is actually Oriental tobacco grown in a different geographic region however Virginia is always Virginia regardless of where on Earth it's grown. Cavendish is actually any type of tobacco that has been steam and pressure cured with flavored casings added, and Perique derives all it's flavor from the unique pressure/fermentation curing process it's subjected to which is why no two brands of Perique taste anything alike. Much of the Perique used in pipe tobacco blends is actually made using Kentucky Green River Burley, not true Perique.
You got that right Str8vision! there are few few brands that actually do use the "good stuff." When I first got into vaping, questions where flying as to what Perique tastes like. I now know few did at the time and few do now.
Google Perique and if an old article still exists it told the ones that have the most real deal. whether that is STILL true today, since so very little of the "true variety" is grown in Louisiana because of so few farms left, I haven't a clue.....
here is what one article has to say:
Perique /pəˈriːk/ is a type of tobacco from Saint James Parish, Louisiana, known for its strong, powerful, and fruity aroma. When the Acadians made their way into this region in 1776, the Choctaw and Chickasaw tribes were cultivating a variety of tobacco with a distinctive flavor. A farmer named Pierre Chenet is credited with first turning this local tobacco into what is now known as Perique in 1824 through the labor-intensive technique of pressure-fermentation.
Production
The tobacco plants are manually kept suckerless and pruned to exactly 12 leaves through their early growth. In late June, when the leaves are a dark, rich green and the plants are 24-30 inches (600 to 750 mm) tall, the whole plant is harvested in the late evening and hung to dry in a sideless curing barn. Once the leaves have partially dried but are still supple (usually less than 2 weeks in the barn), any remaining dirt is removed and the leaves are moistened with water and stemmed by hand. The leaves are then rolled into "torquettes" of approximately 1 pound (450 g) and packed into hickory whiskey barrels. The tobacco is kept under pressure using oak blocks and massive screw jacks, forcing nearly all the air out of the still-moist leaves. Approximately once a month the pressure is released, and each of the torquettes is worked by hand to permit a little air back into the tobacco. After a year of this treatment, the perique is ready for consumption, although it may be kept fresh under pressure for many years. Extended exposure to air degrades the particular character of perique. The finished tobacco is dark brown - nearly black - very moist with a fruity, slightly vinegary aroma.[1] The fruity aroma is the result of hundreds of volatile compounds created by anaerobic fermentation of the tobacco. Many of these are responsible for the flavors of fruits and are often found in wine.[2]
Often considered the truffle of pipe tobaccos, perique is used as a component of various blended pipe tobaccos, as many people consider it too strong to be smoked pure. At one time, the fresh and moist perique was also chewed, but none is now sold for this purpose. Fewer than 16 acres (65,000 m²) of this crop remain in cultivation. Most Louisiana perique is cultivated by farmers Percy and Grant Martin in Grande Pointe, Louisiana.[3] Although at its peak Saint James Parish was producing around 20 tons of perique a year, output is now merely a few barrels. The perique used in pipe tobaccos now is the less expensive Acadian Perique, consisting of Kentucky Green River Burley (from various states) that is processed in the same manner as perique and blended with St. James grown tobacco. The Acadian perique is made by L.A. Poche. Although the process produces a strong, spicy tobacco, it is a different product from the original straight St. James perique grown on the Martin and Poche family farms.
Pierre Chenet's grand daughter, Coralie Decareau, married Celestin Poche in February 1829, and the Poche family has been involved in the cultivation and processing of Perique tobacco through current times. As of June 2015, only three farmers grow tobacco commercially in Saint James Parish.
While traditionally a pipe tobacco (and still available from some specialist tobacconists), perique can also be found in Santa Fe Natural Tobacco Company's perique cigarettes under the Natural American Spirit brand in an approximately 1 part to 5 blend with lighter tobaccos. These cigarettes are marketed in a black box (Perique Rich Robust) and in a gray box (Perique Rich.) Loose tobacco for rolling is sold by the same company in black pouches. Perique is also featured in the Mysterioso line of cigars made by the Connecticut Valley Tobacconist. Mysterioso is available with a genuine Connecticut shade wrapper, genuine aged Louisiana Perique, and Honduran tobacco. It is the only cigar in the world that uses a perique blend.[4]
Perique /pəˈriːk/ is a type of tobacco from Saint James Parish, Louisiana, known for its strong, powerful, and fruity aroma. When the Acadians made their way into this region in 1776, the Choctaw and Chickasaw tribes were cultivating a variety of tobacco with a distinctive flavor. A farmer named Pierre Chenet is credited with first turning this local tobacco into what is now known as Perique in 1824 through the labor-intensive technique of pressure-fermentation.
Production
The tobacco plants are manually kept suckerless and pruned to exactly 12 leaves through their early growth. In late June, when the leaves are a dark, rich green and the plants are 24-30 inches (600 to 750 mm) tall, the whole plant is harvested in the late evening and hung to dry in a sideless curing barn. Once the leaves have partially dried but are still supple (usually less than 2 weeks in the barn), any remaining dirt is removed and the leaves are moistened with water and stemmed by hand. The leaves are then rolled into "torquettes" of approximately 1 pound (450 g) and packed into hickory whiskey barrels. The tobacco is kept under pressure using oak blocks and massive screw jacks, forcing nearly all the air out of the still-moist leaves. Approximately once a month the pressure is released, and each of the torquettes is worked by hand to permit a little air back into the tobacco. After a year of this treatment, the perique is ready for consumption, although it may be kept fresh under pressure for many years. Extended exposure to air degrades the particular character of perique. The finished tobacco is dark brown - nearly black - very moist with a fruity, slightly vinegary aroma.[1] The fruity aroma is the result of hundreds of volatile compounds created by anaerobic fermentation of the tobacco. Many of these are responsible for the flavors of fruits and are often found in wine.[2]
Often considered the truffle of pipe tobaccos, perique is used as a component of various blended pipe tobaccos, as many people consider it too strong to be smoked pure. At one time, the fresh and moist perique was also chewed, but none is now sold for this purpose. Fewer than 16 acres (65,000 m²) of this crop remain in cultivation. Most Louisiana perique is cultivated by farmers Percy and Grant Martin in Grande Pointe, Louisiana.[3] Although at its peak Saint James Parish was producing around 20 tons of perique a year, output is now merely a few barrels. The perique used in pipe tobaccos now is the less expensive Acadian Perique, consisting of Kentucky Green River Burley (from various states) that is processed in the same manner as perique and blended with St. James grown tobacco. The Acadian perique is made by L.A. Poche. Although the process produces a strong, spicy tobacco, it is a different product from the original straight St. James perique grown on the Martin and Poche family farms.
Pierre Chenet's grand daughter, Coralie Decareau, married Celestin Poche in February 1829, and the Poche family has been involved in the cultivation and processing of Perique tobacco through current times. As of June 2015, only three farmers grow tobacco commercially in Saint James Parish.
While traditionally a pipe tobacco (and still available from some specialist tobacconists), perique can also be found in Santa Fe Natural Tobacco Company's perique cigarettes under the Natural American Spirit brand in an approximately 1 part to 5 blend with lighter tobaccos. These cigarettes are marketed in a black box (Perique Rich Robust) and in a gray box (Perique Rich.) Loose tobacco for rolling is sold by the same company in black pouches. Perique is also featured in the Mysterioso line of cigars made by the Connecticut Valley Tobacconist. Mysterioso is available with a genuine Connecticut shade wrapper, genuine aged Louisiana Perique, and Honduran tobacco. It is the only cigar in the world that uses a perique blend.[4]
Pipes and cigars had a great article also: The Mystique of Perique | The #1 Source for Pipes and Pipe Tobacco Information
McClelland Blending Perique - PipesandCigars.com
This one is probably the real thing - from Saint James Parish. At least it says so in the description. It tastes exactly like it is supposed to.
This one is probably the real thing - from Saint James Parish. At least it says so in the description. It tastes exactly like it is supposed to.
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i'm going to be picking some of that up locally in whole leaf form Perique tobacco for Pipe Blends and other MYO Tobacco products
and some Burley Aged Burley Tobacco Leaf - Mild Cigarette Burley Tobacco, Cigarette Blends, MYO Cigarettes.
going to make a blend, just have to figure out a good ratio between the two. my guess is it's probably better idea to extract them separately and then mix the extracts in percentage.
I have about 3.5 oz of McClellands Blending Perique, cold extracted (8 weeks), I've had for a little over a year now. I remembering it being a good smok right after a big meal. The fruity, sour and smokyness blends well on the palate just after eating. For me, not so much as a standalone. Now I got to break it back out and get some mixed up. lol! 70% Dunhill Royal Yacht and 30% Perique in a 60/40 pg/vg 12mg/nic might work.
From the batch I got from boomerdude I have Smyrna Oriental, AAA Burley, and just a little bit Sutliff Red Virginia Ribbon. No stand alone Perique extract just RBFS St. James Parish. I know the Smyrna is quite powerful from earlier testing so, I'm guessing it and the RBFS should just be the condiments. I guess I'd have to do some kind of Burley base since I have little of the Virginia.
Or, I could just get some Virginia and wait it out...hehe.
Or, I could just get some Virginia and wait it out...hehe.
Ran across this interview with the owner of G. L. Pease Tobacco, Greg Pease. Later in the interview Mr. Pease describes various aspects of different tobaccos in great detail, it's worth a read; http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...L_w9wqotTu8xmIP6Q&sig2=Ov2qkdTKxKed3dXqiMAYnQ
Now I know where the name "Perique" comes from. It's a play on words - an abusive boss .... it rhymes with trick !!
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I like latakia very much because of the smokiness of the fire curring. On the other side roasting could be something which favors cancer. Some weeks ago i have read something about it but i dont remember facts.
Do someone know something about this ?
Do someone know something about this ?
I am german and the shippings costs to europe from the usa are very expensive. A few days ago i have found an interesting way for cheaper costs. I have now an account at shipito and have paid only 9 dollars instead of usually 25-40. I have bought the acid blonde and the fire cured cigar from cigarkings.
I am writing this because shipito or other shipping companies could be a good way for other europeans on this board.
I am writing this because shipito or other shipping companies could be a good way for other europeans on this board.
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