Beware of Dinosaurs (T-Rex)
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Thanks rasci2. While I've never had problems with the TorneGo buttons, I actually like them ;-) I may pick up a Riva batt at some point.
Not trying to start some big "argument" here or trying to be a jerk but....
How can you keep making posts all over saying how one device is better than another when you admittedly have only tried the one device?
I know we all have our favorite devices, vendors, liquids, and such, and we all talk about them here. But when it is evident by your posts that, basically, you would only purchase whichever model AEC decided to sell how can you then start stating it is a better unit when you haven't tried the others yourself?
To give your opinion on something is one thing but to compare it to another as if you have tried the others, when you haven't, just isn't the way it should be done. Why not just give your opinion on what you actually have?
And to try and use the amount of time you've been a forum member as a selling point as if it means your opinion should hold more weight than those who have actually tried the various models.... really?
Like I said not trying to start an argument and I won't proceed to get into one either. But, even though I have seen the posts where you say this is the first you have tried in this class, not everyone has seen them so to make other posts that make it sound as if you have tried them and found this one to be the best just seems misleading.
Just my
In an effort to be fair I received an E-mail from Absolutely E-Cigs today indicating that they are sending me a new kit because of all the problems I have experienced. As I said before their customer service has reacted to my unhappiness with their product in a very positive way. They also stated "this is pretty much unheard of so far" this in light of the other posts in the thread would appear to be suspect.
As I said before I am not a newbie. I have used the RN4081, 901, 510, KR808, EGO and Riva and although none are perfect they have all performed within the parameters that we as forum members know to be normal.
When received I will put the new kit through its paces and report the results here.
As I said before I am not a newbie. I have used the RN4081, 901, 510, KR808, EGO and Riva and although none are perfect they have all performed within the parameters that we as forum members know to be normal.
When received I will put the new kit through its paces and report the results here.
Not trying to start some big "argument" here or trying to be a jerk but....
How can you keep making posts all over saying how one device is better than another when you admittedly have only tried the one device?
I know we all have our favorite devices, vendors, liquids, and such, and we all talk about them here. But when it is evident by your posts that, basically, you would only purchase whichever model AEC decided to sell how can you then start stating it is a better unit when you haven't tried the others yourself?
To give your opinion on something is one thing but to compare it to another as if you have tried the others, when you haven't, just isn't the way it should be done. Why not just give your opinion on what you actually have?
And to try and use the amount of time you've been a forum member as a selling point as if it means your opinion should hold more weight than those who have actually tried the various models.... really?
Like I said not trying to start an argument and I won't proceed to get into one either. But, even though I have seen the posts where you say this is the first you have tried in this class, not everyone has seen them so to make other posts that make it sound as if you have tried them and found this one to be the best just seems misleading.
Just my
You don't wanna start an argument? Really?
Anyway, read my entire post (not just the lines you highlighted) and you will see that i am comparing things like buttons, prices and appearance. I used these as criteria when i decided on the Maxx among other similar models. I did emphasize that this is "imo", as i felt that the model i got is better based on its features that appealed to me. I did not say that i've used other models and felt that this is better. You are putting words into my mouth.
I said i was proud because an earlier thread mentioned about getting genuine egos instead of knockoffs. I'm cheap and i'm proud that i saved myself a few bucks.
The oldie expression was just an expression. Again, you are putting words into my mouth. I can't help that you interpret it that way. Will taking it back help?
I don't know what kinda day you had but do i really deserve this?
Not trying to start some big "argument" here or trying to be a jerk but....
How can you keep making posts all over saying how one device is better than another when you admittedly have only tried the one device?
I know we all have our favorite devices, vendors, liquids, and such, and we all talk about them here. But when it is evident by your posts that, basically, you would only purchase whichever model AEC decided to sell how can you then start stating it is a better unit when you haven't tried the others yourself?
To give your opinion on something is one thing but to compare it to another as if you have tried the others, when you haven't, just isn't the way it should be done. Why not just give your opinion on what you actually have?
And to try and use the amount of time you've been a forum member as a selling point as if it means your opinion should hold more weight than those who have actually tried the various models.... really?
Like I said not trying to start an argument and I won't proceed to get into one either. But, even though I have seen the posts where you say this is the first you have tried in this class, not everyone has seen them so to make other posts that make it sound as if you have tried them and found this one to be the best just seems misleading.
Just my
That's a good 2cents worth. Surprised this hasn't been mentioned before. And in the face of some really problematic 'horror/terrible' type reviews, it really makes his "I feel sorry for many eGo users that has the sticky button issue as well." look rather silly.
The "button problem" with the eGo hasn't been mentioned that much (except by Fedor) since the very first release from Janty. All other reports on the TorneGo have been close to 'rave'. And frankly, I'd rather have a sticky button than the whole thing falling apart.
I know it's early on this product and there will be more reports coming in, but at this point, from almost all other accounts other than his, rather than feeling 'proud' of himself, he should be feeling really 'lucky'.
That's a good 2cents worth. Surprised this hasn't been mentioned before.
Surprised? So why did you have to wait for someone else to mention it before you? I'm ok with Thyestean for saying it like it is to me but for you to follow in with sarcasm - not cool!
And in the face of some really problematic 'horror/terrible' type reviews, it really makes his "I feel sorry for many eGo users that has the sticky button issue as well." look rather silly.
I count 2 bad reviews of the Maxx. I also count another 2 good reviews of the Maxx. The one i got wasn't a bad unit. What was i supposed to say? Silly? Back at you.
The "button problem" with the eGo hasn't been mentioned that much (except by Fedor) since the very first release from Janty.
The button problem was mentioned a lot 2 weeks++ back when i was researching options. Check the forums yourself.
And frankly, I'd rather have a sticky button than the whole thing falling apart.
Thats "you". Good for you. And the report was that the cone did not fit one of the batteries and another battery would not charge. Did anyone say anything about the Maxx falling apart?
I know it's early on this product and there will be more reports coming in, but at this point, from almost all other accounts other than his, rather than feeling 'proud' of himself, he should be feeling really 'lucky'.
I do feel lucky. Thanks.
Surprised? So why did you have to wait for someone else to mention it before you? I'm ok with Thyestean for saying it like it is to me but for you to follow in with sarcasm - not cool!
And in the face of some really problematic 'horror/terrible' type reviews, it really makes his "I feel sorry for many eGo users that has the sticky button issue as well." look rather silly.
I count 2 bad reviews of the Maxx. I also count another 2 good reviews of the Maxx. The one i got wasn't a bad unit. What was i supposed to say? Silly? Back at you.
The "button problem" with the eGo hasn't been mentioned that much (except by Fedor) since the very first release from Janty.
The button problem was mentioned a lot 2 weeks++ back when i was researching options. Check the forums yourself.
And frankly, I'd rather have a sticky button than the whole thing falling apart.
Thats "you". Good for you. And the report was that the cone did not fit one of the batteries and another battery would not charge. Did anyone say anything about the Maxx falling apart?
I know it's early on this product and there will be more reports coming in, but at this point, from almost all other accounts other than his, rather than feeling 'proud' of himself, he should be feeling really 'lucky'.
I do feel lucky. Thanks.
I'm still waiting for mine to arrive. Hope mine is problem free. I did order a RIVA from a US vendor because im impatient and wanted one to play with right away and i love it so far. Not really digging the flavors i picked to start with tho...
Did you verify this on an oscilloscope, or did you just read a low loaded voltage? In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter if the low output is due to a PWM circuit or a battery that cannot handle the current, but I'm curious
I'm also curious to know what the unloaded voltage reads, because if it's regulated, the unloaded voltage should also be low. If the unloaded voltage is low, then the distributor cannot even claim a mistake or oversight with their 4.2V/3.7V claims. Either they didn't bother to test it at all, or they just plain lied.
I too purchased the Hello 016 and the batteries are awesome. The whole kit was only 50.00 with twice the amps as the ego. I had problem with one regular 510 atty with the hole but the cartos work great without the cone. I wanted a battery that would last allday without recharging and the Hello does that.
Just a few points.
This:
You don't wanna start an argument? Really?
.... doesn't look like you were "ok" with Thyestean telling you like it is.
I think an objective eye would have a hard time finding something sarcastic in my reply.
I did do a search on eGo buttons and while it has been mentioned since, the most reports were early on. But you and absolute ecigs have it in almost every post and promo - typical bad mouthing the competitor and the overhype of the 4.2V by AEC is regretable at the least. You made a big point of it earlier:
"Battery Voltage:
3.7V for the ego and Riva. 4.2V for the Maxx.
Winner for this category: Maxx"
... now you act like it's no big thing. "I don't know the voltage of the battery but the unit certainly works exceptionally well for me. Therefore, it doesn't really matter to me."
I don't think it is just "Me" that would prefer a sticky button vs. an ecig falling apart. Rasci2 said that cone threads fell off the batt - not just didn't fit like one of Scott's, and Scott mentioned the plastic body tubing stuck on with glue (sounds like the T-Rex might be the same model) vs. the metal bodies of the ego/tornado/riva. Perhaps you didn't see those reports.
You don't wanna start an argument? Really?
Anyway, read my entire post (not just the lines you highlighted) and you will see that i am comparing things like buttons, prices and appearance. I used these as criteria when i decided on the Maxx among other similar models. I did emphasize that this is "imo", as i felt that the model i got is better based on its features that appealed to me. I did not say that i've used other models and felt that this is better. You are putting words into my mouth.
I said i was proud because an earlier thread mentioned about getting genuine egos instead of knockoffs. I'm cheap and i'm proud that i saved myself a few bucks.
The oldie expression was just an expression. Again, you are putting words into my mouth. I can't help that you interpret it that way. Will taking it back help?
I don't know what kinda day you had but do i really deserve this?
My day was no worse or better than any other and had nothing to do with my posting.
Yes honestly I wasn't trying to start an argument.
I can see where it would be easy to misinterpret it and take it as an attack on your character but figured, from the posts I've seen you make previously, that you are intelligent enough to see it for what it really was. Otherwise I never would have bothered posting it.
I wasn't putting, or trying to put, words into your mouth. More so pointing out the way it comes across, to those who don't have all the facts, when reading the words you do put.
Again, not trying to argue or harp on you or tell you what to do. However, as someone who spends way to much time on here and has seen a lot of your posts I am aware that you have stated elsewhere that you haven't actually tried the others. So I wasn't saying that you said, or were even trying to imply, that you have tried the others. Rather I was just saying that with the wording of your posts and saying "it's a better unit imo" gives the impression that you have tried the others. If I was someone who hadn't seen your other posts I would take that statement to mean that you had tried the others and found this one to be better. That is all I was saying.
I guess I just look at it differently. I'm always careful that if I am giving my opinion on something I make sure it is clear that it is my opinion (yes you did that by typing imo) and if someone asks for a comparison I make sure to be clear as to whether or not I've actually tried all of the compared units. For example if I see a post where someone asks "What's better the eGo, Riva, or Maxx?" then, if I responded at all, I would be sure to point out that I hadn't tried the others but x,y, and z are what I like, have experienced, with the eGo. And if I mention a problem with one of the others it would be done in a way that made it clear it isn't a problem I experienced but only read about.
I am also looking at it from the point of view that some new members will look at the length of time you have been on the forum, combined with the moderator title, and assume you must have tried it all. While they shouldn't make that assumption it's inevitable that some will.
As for me saying...
You may not have meant it that way but yes I still think that within that context it comes across that way.And to try and use the amount of time you've been a forum member as a selling point as if it means your opinion should hold more weight than those who have actually tried the various models.... really?
Wow that's long.. I considered sending it in a PM but decided it was better responded to here since the rest was already out here.
Really though.. I mean if I was just at a point where i had a bad day or something and decided to drop my nice guy forum self and let the real me show through to start an argument.... do ya really think I would have chosen to direct the first one at someone who has the power to ban me?
My day was no worse or better than any other and had nothing to do with my posting.
Yes honestly I wasn't trying to start an argument.
I can see where it would be easy to misinterpret it and take it as an attack on your character but figured, from the posts I've seen you make previously, that you are intelligent enough to see it for what it really was. Otherwise I never would have bothered posting it.
I wasn't putting, or trying to put, words into your mouth. More so pointing out the way it comes across, to those who don't have all the facts, when reading the words you do put.
Again, not trying to argue or harp on you or tell you what to do. However, as someone who spends way to much time on here and has seen a lot of your posts I am aware that you have stated elsewhere that you haven't actually tried the others. So I wasn't saying that you said, or were even trying to imply, that you have tried the others. Rather I was just saying that with the wording of your posts and saying "it's a better unit imo" gives the impression that you have tried the others. If I was someone who hadn't seen your other posts I would take that statement to mean that you had tried the others and found this one to be better. That is all I was saying.
I guess I just look at it differently. I'm always careful that if I am giving my opinion on something I make sure it is clear that it is my opinion (yes you did that by typing imo) and if someone asks for a comparison I make sure to be clear as to whether or not I've actually tried all of the compared units. For example if I see a post where someone asks "What's better the eGo, Riva, or Maxx?" then, if I responded at all, I would be sure to point out that I hadn't tried the others but x,y, and z are what I like, have experienced, with the eGo. And if I mention a problem with one of the others it would be done in a way that made it clear it isn't a problem I experienced but only read about.
I am also looking at it from the point of view that some new members will look at the length of time you have been on the forum, combined with the moderator title, and assume you must have tried it all. While they shouldn't make that assumption it's inevitable that some will.
As for me saying...
You may not have meant it that way but yes I still think that within that context it comes across that way.
Wow that's long.. I considered sending it in a PM but decided it was better responded to here since the rest was already out here.
Really though.. I mean if I was just at a point where i had a bad day or something and decided to drop my nice guy forum self and let the real me show through to start an argument.... do ya really think I would have chosen to direct the first one at someone who has the power to ban me?
Like i said, I'm cool with you saying it like it is. You made a long post and i'm not gonna follow suit. You basically meant that you were just saying what you felt from reading my posts. You realise that it may not be exactly what i mean but sounded me out anyway. You shared with me some of the way you normally post as reference to me. Frankly, I can accept that and let it end this way (hopefully).
This:
You don't wanna start an argument? Really?
.... doesn't look like you were "ok" with Thyestean telling you like it is.
Now, you are telling me how i feel? I am telling you now that i was ok. Live with it.
"Battery Voltage:
3.7V for the ego and Riva. 4.2V for the Maxx.
Winner for this category: Maxx"
... now you act like it's no big thing. "I don't know the voltage of the battery but the unit certainly works exceptionally well for me. Therefore, it doesn't really matter to me."
Thanks for the research. But my earlier comparison was based solely on the information i gathered from the websites, since i did not have any of the models at hand. It was meant for me to decide which one to buy? I was duped by the false advertising as everyone else who bought it. I do not even know how to test the voltage of a battery. I based my review on how the unit vapes (for me). It DID work exceptionally for me. Why don't you go to every review and tell them how they should do it? Why should i be responsible when the manufacturer makes a false claim on their product? I merely took what they said and stood by it until an ECF member proved it wrong! There is a thread in Poll that shows more than 25% of voters having an ego battery failure.
I don't think it is just "Me" that would prefer a sticky button vs. an ecig falling apart.
Ok. So that makes "you" and others like you. Happy?
Rasci2 said that cone threads fell off the batt - not just didn't fit like one of Scott's, and Scott mentioned the plastic body tubing stuck on with glue (sounds like the T-Rex might be the same model) vs. the metal bodies of the ego/tornado/riva. Perhaps you didn't see those reports.
The Maxx is made of metal body as well. Not plastic body. What Scott meant was that the LED Ring band is made from plastic and it connects two parts of the battery together. This part may be glued poorly but it hasnt happened to mine. I never undermined any of the bad reports. In fact, i made an extra effort to see if those reports applied to my unit by intentionally abusing them in those departments. I received a unit that works well. I told it like it is. Don't like it, don't read it!
You don't wanna start an argument? Really?
.... doesn't look like you were "ok" with Thyestean telling you like it is.
Now, you are telling me how i feel? I am telling you now that i was ok. Live with it.
"Battery Voltage:
3.7V for the ego and Riva. 4.2V for the Maxx.
Winner for this category: Maxx"
... now you act like it's no big thing. "I don't know the voltage of the battery but the unit certainly works exceptionally well for me. Therefore, it doesn't really matter to me."
Thanks for the research. But my earlier comparison was based solely on the information i gathered from the websites, since i did not have any of the models at hand. It was meant for me to decide which one to buy?
I was duped by the false advertising as everyone else who bought it. I do not even know how to test the voltage of a battery. I based my review on how the unit vapes (for me). It DID work exceptionally for me. Why don't you go to every review and tell them how they should do it? Why should i be responsible when the manufacturer makes a false claim on their product? I merely took what they said and stood by it until an ECF member proved it wrong! There is a thread in Poll that shows more than 25% of voters having an ego battery failure. I don't think it is just "Me" that would prefer a sticky button vs. an ecig falling apart.
Ok. So that makes "you" and others like you. Happy?
Rasci2 said that cone threads fell off the batt - not just didn't fit like one of Scott's, and Scott mentioned the plastic body tubing stuck on with glue (sounds like the T-Rex might be the same model) vs. the metal bodies of the ego/tornado/riva. Perhaps you didn't see those reports.
The Maxx is made of metal body as well. Not plastic body. What Scott meant was that the LED Ring band is made from plastic and it connects two parts of the battery together. This part may be glued poorly but it hasnt happened to mine. I never undermined any of the bad reports. In fact, i made an extra effort to see if those reports applied to my unit by intentionally abusing them in those departments. I received a unit that works well. I told it like it is. Don't like it, don't read it!
just received my MaxX, charging batteries today, will use tomorrow and submit a review tomorrow night after a days use
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