Blue Foam PLUG! UPDATED v2.0 "THE SLUG" - The Search is over!
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But how interchangeable is tape? The diameter difference between a 801 and 510 is pretty large.
Guess not but either is her new cart design. Figured she didnt mean you could take the same one out of a 510 and slap it in a 801 but just that the same stuff can be used in either one.
Heres her new cart mod she listed early this morning but in the wrong forum so no one will see it. New Cart Design - Advanced
BTW.. not trying to start anything but just wanted to let you know that the brass/SS screen mod has been done before and so has the metal spring (which no one will want to use as its metal).
Heres her new cart mod she listed early this morning but in the wrong forum so no one will see it. New Cart Design - Advanced
BTW.. not trying to start anything but just wanted to let you know that the brass/SS screen mod has been done before and so has the metal spring (which no one will want to use as its metal).
Knowing that this would be tough to find.. even for me as i could not remember what page i did the leg work and found my original post with the pics.. hehe.
The first set is for the foam plug and see how it touches the top of the atty bridge.. Thats good and probably would be perfect for high voltage use as well.. The bottom set is with the blue foam slug. notice how it hugs down and around the atty bridge? Thats fine with a normal 3.7v device but with HV its not safe! I've notice the blue foam melting around the edges that hang down vlose to the bottom of the atty where all the heat is as thats right above the atty coil. The quick solution i've found is to just flip the slug over so it touches just like the regular plug. No burning.
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Figured i'd post the same post in my thread as it shows why i feel using the Slug normally with a high voltage device at 6 volts may not be a good idea as it will burn the foam as the ends of the slug are too close to the coil at the bottom of the atty. So i've been still testing the HV slug model i've come up with a few weeks ago where you just flip over the Slug over.
Most will probably never see my old post as there not gona read this intire thread.
Right now i'm gona try the HV Slug with a normal 510 atty with fresh batteries so it should run at near 6 volts under load at first then level off around 5.30v.
I'll report back within the hour if i find that it burns the foam or not.
Which model are you talking about as i've seen there stand at the mall and they carry a few different models and even a 510 model.
? Everyone barked about it so tell them that.. there was even a guy that said the Galvanized metal would'nt be safe either.
metal screens are safer - way safer! But my currently plug I a musing with the straw trick is not metal mesh - it is silicon based. I ahve been using for 3 days in my 501's and my 801's and it does work, but I can see that something is happening to it after being in constact with the heat from the atty. It is changing it and I do not think this plug will be a permanent solution. That is why I wish to try it in my Protege' to see how it works in it. I do some serious vaping at times and I really hate to have to muck around with carts and all that stuff. I like the ZFM design and think it could work, just have to find the right material that is safe.
Scratch that HV Slug off your list.. Killed the atty after the 5-6th hit. 
Should of known as after the 4th hit it had that burnt atty taste. Though a quick downward snap of the wrist would push the juice down into the atty but nope.. Dead!
Oh well.. That was my oldest 510 from when i started vaping.. White color so no biggy hehe.
I'll repair all of my dead attys soon enough... I'm up to 7 dead attys now that i'll try to fix.
Back to dripping for HV use.. The slug is for when i'm on the go as dripping is too messy to take with you.
Funny as the HV 510 atty held up fine at 6 volts with the HV slug.. So thats one use for it. So i could take that setup on the go using a cart.
EDIT: Opps.. forgot to look at the HV slug to see if theres any signs of metling or burning.
Yup.. just a slight yellow spot on the edge in the center of the HV slug where it would touch the atty bridge about the size of a small sharp pencil head tip. With that in mind i guess the atty bridge as well gets hot and hot enough to start melting the blue foam under high voltage of ruffly 6 volts under load.
Should of known as after the 4th hit it had that burnt atty taste. Though a quick downward snap of the wrist would push the juice down into the atty but nope.. Dead!Oh well.. That was my oldest 510 from when i started vaping.. White color so no biggy hehe.
I'll repair all of my dead attys soon enough... I'm up to 7 dead attys now that i'll try to fix.
Back to dripping for HV use.. The slug is for when i'm on the go as dripping is too messy to take with you.
Funny as the HV 510 atty held up fine at 6 volts with the HV slug.. So thats one use for it. So i could take that setup on the go using a cart.
EDIT: Opps.. forgot to look at the HV slug to see if theres any signs of metling or burning.
Yup.. just a slight yellow spot on the edge in the center of the HV slug where it would touch the atty bridge about the size of a small sharp pencil head tip. With that in mind i guess the atty bridge as well gets hot and hot enough to start melting the blue foam under high voltage of ruffly 6 volts under load.
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The SE Gold cart is a bit small...okay a lot small...I don't think this would help too much with that cart.
Smoking Everywhere only carries one model out right now, and if the vendor at the mall had other models, they weren't Smoking Everywhere and he was carrying them himself.
Go tell scottyballs that as he claims its safe and the heat dont get hot enough to bother it.
I'm sure using it at 3.7v would be fine as its even safe with the blue foam. high voltage is another story though.
Ok thanks for the info.. i've only did a quick look as i thought it was cool to finally see one as everyone else mentioned it.. I got stuck talking to the women working there and ofcourse my Dad (Christmas shopping) had to tell her that i use one and i had to show her my Protege which she never seen before.. it was new at the time so i didnt expect her to. but i didn remember seeing a 510 kit and a cigar kit as well among other models.
If the cart was designed right in the first place you'd get good vap off of the standard 3.7v. I think the reason why people go to the higher voltage is because it can create massive amounts of vape and uses standard rechargable batteries that you can buy from the store.
The issue is consistent liquid flow from the cart without flooding the atty. A metal screen with the correct micro mesh would be ideal for this. It could last a super longtime and metal mesh can be gotten that is very fine and very durable made with all kinds of very corrasive resistant materials. Plus those metals will not produce any harmful vapors to the vaping process when you heat them to the temps we are heating them. The poly fibers and siliocn plugs might be though.
The issue is consistent liquid flow from the cart without flooding the atty. A metal screen with the correct micro mesh would be ideal for this. It could last a super longtime and metal mesh can be gotten that is very fine and very durable made with all kinds of very corrasive resistant materials. Plus those metals will not produce any harmful vapors to the vaping process when you heat them to the temps we are heating them. The poly fibers and siliocn plugs might be though.
Just added to my above resluts for the HV Slug test using a regular 510 atty at ruffly 6 volts under load.
EDIT: Opps.. forgot to look at the HV slug to see if theres any signs of metling or burning. Keep dripping my friends using HV!
Yup.. just a slight yellow spot on the edge in the center of the HV slug where it would touch the atty bridge about the size of a small sharp pencil head tip. With that in mind i guess the atty bridge as well gets hot and hot enough to start melting the blue foam under high voltage of ruffly 6 volts under load.
EDIT: Opps.. forgot to look at the HV slug to see if theres any signs of metling or burning. Keep dripping my friends using HV!
Yup.. just a slight yellow spot on the edge in the center of the HV slug where it would touch the atty bridge about the size of a small sharp pencil head tip. With that in mind i guess the atty bridge as well gets hot and hot enough to start melting the blue foam under high voltage of ruffly 6 volts under load.
If the cart was designed right in the first place you'd get good vap off of the standard 3.7v. I think the reason why people go to the higher voltage is because it can create massive amounts of vape and uses standard rechargable batteries that you can buy from the store.
The issue is consistent liquid flow from the cart without flooding the atty. A metal screen with the correct micro mesh would be ideal for this. It could last a super longtime and metal mesh can be gotten that is very fine and very durable made with all kinds of very corrasive resistant materials. Plus those metals will not produce any harmful vapors to the vaping process when you heat them to the temps we are heating them. The poly fibers and siliocn plugs might be though.
Honestly it really dont matter what you use to plug the cart with.. theres still issues if air can not pass threw it.. Yes a screen will work just as good as the blue foam in wicking as long as all the holes are not too small and air can pass through. If the juice clogs it up like any full cart filler and air is trapped down in the cart it wont wick and you'll find yourslef doing the downward wrist snap trying to get the juice to move down to the atty.
Thats the whole problem with the cart design is that theres negitive air pressure thats holding the juice from flowing right and the juice gets stuck. I did a mod long ago for Poly-fil filled carts that helped prevent juice from getting stuck down in the cart from trapped air.
Side vent hole in the bottom side of the juice chamber allowed air to flow through and fixed that issue. Just a tiny tiny hole. Even helped with topping the cart off. I dont use it as i dont like the taste thats leetched from the poly into the juice.
You get used to it after a day or so and wont notice it after that untill you move away from the poly for a day or 2 using another cart mod and then come back to the poly and its like YUCK!
Galvanized would be a very poor choice.
That's why I use either 302 or 316 stainless springs.
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