Breaking News:: They have shipped!! VISION ETERNITY TEASER PICTURE WITHIN!!!!! Getting Closer Then Ever!!!!

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Ok. Here's a couple more honest questions. Can I ask what happens when you buy another crap product from a different vendor that does not hype them? Do you still ask for a refund even though they made no claims to the products effectiveness?

No, me personally never returned anything or asked for a refund on anything (except for the ravens because it was offered)personally its not worth my time of course Ive had good luck with the bigger ticket items like pvs and such but when it happens time after time after time and things are costing more and more it gets a little troubling .And if me saying we have to make a stand as a group or it will not stop is whining than so be it .By all means feel free to keep spending your money on v1,v2,v3 this eternity thing has opened my eyes I now see the light .Of coarse this isn't all directed at you wally your one of the good eggs lol.just answered your question and went off course a bit
 

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Ok. Here's a couple more honest questions. Can I ask what happens when you buy another crap product from a different vendor that does not hype them? Do you still ask for a refund even though they made no claims to the products effectiveness?

If the problem is due to a manufacturing defect or major design flaw that wasn't disclosed, I will ask for a refund. If I don't get it, that vendor doesn't get any more of my business.

I expect to get what I pay for, nothing more, nothing less.

Though candy is always a welcome surprise :).
 
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I don't understand why 'reputable manufacturer' means no need to ALPHA a new product. Being Vision or not, it's new *technology*, to them at least, that they are bringing to the table. It was said to be thoroughly tested, but who did that testing?? While it was never said, it does seem that Chris just got the product in hand about the same time as the launch. Had he been one of the ones to do this thorough testing (which takes weeks) I'm sure he would have had a video ready to upload the moment the Eternity was released. Just my observation, I could be totally wrong there.

I'm very glad I was reserved in pouncing on the Eternity. I have to be honest, the moment I watched LD's review my heart sank for Chris and Daniel. Come on guys....you are my preferred vendor and that won't change, but once bitten twice shy, ya know? This is #3 in a very short time. Why are you letting these manufacturers slip like this? It turns around to look bad on you :( Sure, it may not be a complete flop, but it's not proving itself to be 'all that' like it was hyped up to be. At least not a $30 'all that'.

ALPHA is there for a reason. This wasn't like a new version Vivi Nova or Stardust, this was a completely different type of product. In my opinion, it should have been tested in ALPHA. I wouldn't have thought twice if I spent the $ in ALPHA and it was a bust as I take that chance with every ALPHA purchase. I really hate to see things like this damage the reputation of a great vendor. I've already seen snide comments on other parts of ECF. Chris and Daniel, the trust you have in these manufacturers is damaging the trust your customers have in you.

*sigh* Just my .02 .....
 

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I buy from GotVapes because for the most part they have been a reliable company. A company that stands behind it's products and in most instances is cautious of products that come from China.
A company that tests and remedies problems for their customers builds a loyal following.I am [was] part of that loyal following.I believe that the video for this product was not released because it trying to do the video the problem with the product became apparent to Chris. I know if I were Chris I would have said to my self. OH NO this product has a flaw that I didn't see and I just told everyone how great of a product it is. I can excuse him for that because out of the box this product is impressive and I too assumed it was a great product. Now the question is what are they going to do about the problem? I personally feel that Vision should own up to the problem and send at their expense a product that has the issue corrected. There have been too many products lately from China that this has happened with and I can think of quite a few that GV has sold. So if they want to keep their integrity and current customer base ,I think it is time for them to stand up to the manufacturer and tell them this is unacceptable and they will quit doing business with them if they don't remedy this situation. And they need to do this on their dime not GotVapes customers dime. This is just becoming an all to familar issue with these Chinese vendors. We the customers and GV the supplier are the only ones who can stop this by refusing to purchase their products. So I say if Vision does not remedy this at their expense and GV does not force them to make this right then we customers will just have to start looking for a company that will.


We are not talking about a $3.00 carto here were Talking about a $30.00 device.
 
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Same here, just watched it... I have my fingers crossed that it won't wear out too quickly, but I won't be holding my breath. I've changed the coil 4 times now practicing and it only leaks when I use more than 20-25 drops, but knowing the weak point is there doesn't give me faith that it won't become unusable at some point... Too bad, because it really is a beautiful device.
 

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i guess i just have to chime in here. seems like there were a hundred or so of these that were sold. sounds like all were not bad. stands to reason that the ones that gv tested were good. am i sure they didn't lie about what they thought, just to make a 100 sales on these. you have to remember that we are dealing with CHINESE s**t here. there is no quality control. i can't even tell you how much CHINESE crap , of all kinds, that i have thrown away over the years. mostly my fault for buying it. to cheap or to lazy to buy the good stuff. you don't hear anybody complaining about the greek DID. it is good quality, just that simple, of course ,you pay for that. i just bought a young june lt. the button broke in 2 days. vender is going to return my money. that's the way it goes. my other lt , which i bought at the same time works good so far, but they are not a provari. i only paid 50 bucks for mine(i guess i will never learn either). so, just relate the problems you are having here, as gv wants you to, and fill out a ticket and be done with it. there is nothing wrong with hype. car companies and many others do it all the time. look at apple iphone. they also have had a few recalls in their day. it's called marketing, and i am glad to live in a country where free enterprise has the right to do........sorry, starting to run at the mouth.....later...vince
 

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Oddly enough, mine seems to be working fine. I doubted the claims of 40 drops after I looked at the guts, so I haven't overfilled it causing it to leak down the air tube. I'm using the stock coil too, so my opinion may change when I do a rebuild. If this was your first rebuildable atomizer, I'd say you have the wrong one out of the gate. It's not your typical construction. The fact that its chrome plated brass is more concerning than anything to me.

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I recently got a rebuildable - similar to the Phoenix - from a reputable Vendor to review. It arrived in a sealed packet and when i opened it there was a screw missing making it unusable straight from the packet. Again, not blaming the Vendor, as it was a sealed pack and they wanted an honest review (which i'm still finishing) - but Chinese QC isn't the best shall we say ;) Luckily i had a spare screw the correct size!

I'll wait and see how me Eternity arrives - but still looking forward to it :D
 

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i guess i just have to chime in here. seems like there were a hundred or so of these that were sold. sounds like all were not bad. stands to reason that the ones that gv tested were good. am i sure they didn't lie about what they thought, just to make a 100 sales on these. you have to remember that we are dealing with CHINESE s**t here. there is no quality control. i can't even tell you how much CHINESE crap , of all kinds, that i have thrown away over the years. mostly my fault for buying it. to cheap or to lazy to buy the good stuff. you don't hear anybody complaining about the greek DID. it is good quality, just that simple, of course ,you pay for that. i just bought a young june lt. the button broke in 2 days. vender is going to return my money. that's the way it goes. my other lt , which i bought at the same time works good so far, but they are not a provari. i only paid 50 bucks for mine(i guess i will never learn either). so, just relate the problems you are having here, as gv wants you to, and fill out a ticket and be done with it. there is nothing wrong with hype. car companies and many others do it all the time. look at apple iphone. they also have had a few recalls in their day. it's called marketing, and i am glad to live in a country where free enterprise has the right to do........sorry, starting to run at the mouth.....later...vince

I agree there is nothing wrong in Hype, but if your product does not stand up to the hype,then you better plan on making up for the hype or expect that people will eventually say 'I bought into the hype and got burned too" and yes your a fool for buying into the hype. Caveat Emptor .Let the buyer beware. I just dont want to see one of my favorite vendors become a place where I cant trust their products or their product claims.
 

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This would have become quickly evident in alpha... That's the part that gets under my skin. I don't understand why they trust Vision. I finally got my nova working properly after months of tinkering. At least it ended up being fixable, which I don't think is the case with the Eternity... Seems likely it will break and then have to go in the garbage.

I haven't been vaping long, but so far I'm not impressed with Vision.
 

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I don't believe implying that Chris hasn't released the video because he realizes the products short comings is fair to say. Yes, we are dealing with Chinese products, which is my reason for preaching quality control, quality control. On our part, not the Chinese part.

I think it should have gone through ALPHA, just as I thought the Ravens should have. I don't hold blame on GV, they released what they felt was a great product, from a very good manufacturer. I think this products short comings could have been avoided with ALPHA testing. For a $30 a customer expects durability.....longevity. Hell, I would pay $30 for a Vivi Nova just cause all I need to do is rebuild the heads. I've gotten 2 months out of mine, if it should break tomorrow I would feel it has been very reliable even if I did pay $30...

I just really hate seeing snide comments about a vendor on something that can be avoided. You just can't trust these Chinese manufacturers......
 

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Just put in a new coil a few minutes ago, no issues in removal or install of the new coil. Primed the wick/coil and reassembled after a good cleaning of course. Added 10 drops via an eyedropper of the custom blended Cherry Pipe Tabacco that really tastes great with this setup (does on others as well, but really does on this one it seems). Let it sit for a minute, checked for leaks, found none at all. Hit it a few times, checked for leaks, still nothing then added 5 more drops. Hit it a few times, again checked for leaks and found none so I added 5 more drops and let it sit. Last time, checked for leaks and found none and finally added 5 more drops and started using it. I still have no leaks, still have a ton of vapor and awesome taste coming from mine. No leaking issues, coil change over was not difficult at all and the factory coil I just added was coming in around 1.8ohms so I have it on a standard eGo-C 650mah battery right now, still hitting like a champ with no leaking at all. No it is not a warm vape at all, bit on the cool side, the flavor and vapor are really good though.

I am interested to see how it does with a custom coil now. I still think the coil section of this unit needs to be revisited. It is delicate to say the least and just does not hold the 1ml it claims to do, but it is still working fine for me at this point. Design issues, yes there are some and it should have went through Alpha program. I am still not upset at GV for putting it out as it was, they trusted Vision to put out the product they promised, erring on the side of we can trust this company. Not many places, actually any, that I know of even have an alpha program setup, they thought they were safe with this one and were apparently wrong. Again I still think in the end this will be made right and I would expect GV to continue to support those of you that are not 100% happy with your purchase. I do NOT think this is a total fail, considering one piece just has to be fixed to make it right. The tank setup seems to be working for a lot of people, so that is good. It looks and fits wonderfully, so that is good. We have issues with the setup of the heating section only, so lets give them a chance to do something people.

Yes I understand your frustration and even your anger with this unit due to past issues with other units. Getting into a pissing contest here is not going to do any good, be constructive and try to get your point across that this should not have been done this way when they have a great program in place to keep such things from happening. GV has done nothing but be good to me personally, they have responded and been very receptive to product issues I have had, even with something as small as a damn drip tip I bought from them...a drip tip, that is like complaining about an o-ring being white instead of black, yet it was treated like a $500 item and my satisfaction was the only thing they wanted. I am not going to fight back and forth, mine is working and not leaking at the moment, I just added 10 more drops and still nothing, even took it apart all the way down to the coil and no issues with overflowing. I even have it on my 1000mah eGo-C Twist now at 3.7 volts, still hitting like a champ for me...and not one leak. Sorry to drone on and on, just think we are getting a bit too upset over this right now, give them a chance to make it 100% right. I for one will not be trying to return mine, even if I start having issues, I will wait to see if Vision or GV try to remedy the problem. If not, I know better next time, new product like this without it going through the Alpha program, I will just wait for the reviews to come in first. I really think that was the only mistake GV made, not putting this through their own safety net first.

one last photo taken with my cellphone of this with a black drip tip on the eGo 650mah non-twist battery. Just thought it looked good like this as well, waiting on a 650mah twist for it right now.
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Keep on vaping people.
 
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