No clue who his supplier is; I know everyone on the German forums is happy to pay slightly higher prices when shopping with him, since his wicks and coils seem to be better than the cheaper alternatives elsewhere.
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Yeah, I will try a few local shops and eBay UK to see if I can get anything similar. Just did a burn test on it and it appears to be ceramic/glass fibre; same as stove rope. It basically just doesn't burn like other fibres would.
I have emailed Cetin and asked him if he can give me some more information about the materials as I am sure many people from around the world will be wanting his A2. It is not exactly great that to get more wire/wick we have to basically import from Germany when the chances are we can get it on the local highstreet if we just knew what it was
I have emailed Cetin and asked him if he can give me some more information about the materials as I am sure many people from around the world will be wanting his A2. It is not exactly great that to get more wire/wick we have to basically import from Germany when the chances are we can get it on the local highstreet if we just knew what it was
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Cetin does sell in larger quantities the wick material and the kanthal wire. I added it to my order. Probably enough to last me a year!!!
Yeah, I wish I had ordered some more at the time haha
I just had an email back from Cetin. It is a Kanthal D series wire - See here; he recommends the stuff around 0.12mm-0.15mm diameter - should be around 60-100ohm a meter.
He says he cannot tell me the source of his wick as it is something local to him, or that is what it sounds like to me. It is a shame really, I will continue my search for something else though and I will be sure to post if I find anything suitable. Up until that point though I encourage people to just buy the wire and wick from him, at least you know it will be spot on
Do you think something like this kevlar fire wick would do the job? 2m Kevlar Diabolo String...Fire Wick. (circus / diablo) on eBay (end time 06-Feb-11 08:23:22 GMT)
Also there's the stove door stuff, maybe a bit thick at 3mm? But dirt cheap - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WOODBURNER-ST...lacesMantelpieces_RL&var=&hash=item61ca078553
Also there's the stove door stuff, maybe a bit thick at 3mm? But dirt cheap - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WOODBURNER-ST...lacesMantelpieces_RL&var=&hash=item61ca078553
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No Papa, I have tried it and it is no good. The only thing I can suggest is oven/stove rope, ceramic or glass fibre rope etc. Obviously it comes down to finding the varient that Cetin uses and using that from then on. I will try to work it out, but yeah, I have tried things like Kevlar and Twaron, Nylon, Polyester, etc and so on. The only one that works is what he supplied and it is completely different to anything I have.
The closest thing I can find to it, too look at is this: Clicky not the bottom one in the picture, the one above it. It looks pretty much identical to that, it isn't braided it is twisted. All it says on that page is Ceramic Fibre Rope Lagging.
That is the stuff I plan on trying next Papa - the stove rope. Although I don't have high hopes, the more I think about it the more I think it is some sort of fibreglass yarn that Cetin reworks himself into 1mm thin wick. Perhaps it starts life as fibreglass cloth, that looks the most like it.
Just did a burn test on an old CE2R4 carto and the wick material in that is identical to the stuff used here. The only difference is the strands seem thinner, but they are also not braided, they are twisted. Does anyone know what the CE2R4s actually use?
The closest thing I can find to it, too look at is this: Clicky not the bottom one in the picture, the one above it. It looks pretty much identical to that, it isn't braided it is twisted. All it says on that page is Ceramic Fibre Rope Lagging.
That is the stuff I plan on trying next Papa - the stove rope. Although I don't have high hopes, the more I think about it the more I think it is some sort of fibreglass yarn that Cetin reworks himself into 1mm thin wick. Perhaps it starts life as fibreglass cloth, that looks the most like it.
Just did a burn test on an old CE2R4 carto and the wick material in that is identical to the stuff used here. The only difference is the strands seem thinner, but they are also not braided, they are twisted. Does anyone know what the CE2R4s actually use?
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I cannot edit my original post so I will add it here.
Cart Filler:
I have recently replaced the cart filler, couple of tips: Don't use too much and don't have it sticking out the end. Due to the design of the cartridge when screwed in, there is literally what appears to be about .5mm around the cart where air passes up to the mouthpiece. So if you have too much compacted in or have it sticking out of the end you can really decrease the draw and vapour on the device.
If you are having issues but are not sure what is causing it, don't automatically assume it is the atomiser. It could be the filler cart, the tube needs cleaning or the mouthpiece needs cleaning. It is possible to detach the cartridge from the mouthpiece, so do this and test the draw and vape without the cart. When you change a coil I would advise people to clean the other parts at the same time.
Cart Filler:
I have recently replaced the cart filler, couple of tips: Don't use too much and don't have it sticking out the end. Due to the design of the cartridge when screwed in, there is literally what appears to be about .5mm around the cart where air passes up to the mouthpiece. So if you have too much compacted in or have it sticking out of the end you can really decrease the draw and vapour on the device.
If you are having issues but are not sure what is causing it, don't automatically assume it is the atomiser. It could be the filler cart, the tube needs cleaning or the mouthpiece needs cleaning. It is possible to detach the cartridge from the mouthpiece, so do this and test the draw and vape without the cart. When you change a coil I would advise people to clean the other parts at the same time.
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I know you can vape without the cart, but does anyone know if they plan on making a drip friendly cap/mouthpiece, something much shorter?
Maybe Cetin has something on the cards, but I doubt it. I wouldn't say the design is drip friendly without some sort of modification. I only use about 6-9cm of wick and the wick is only 1mm wide, 1 loop at either end. So really the wick only holds a small amount of liquid compared to something like the Ato-Miser which looks to use about 3 or 4x more wick.
Generally I found dripping with most atomisers to taste better, no flooding and so on. I didn't drip by choice it was more of an acceptance of the limitations of the atomisers I tried, they just performed better when dripped. The only atomiser I have used that performed correctly without dripping was the CE2R4s and I would say the A2 vape is very similar. Whether it is just down to the wick I am not sure (as they both use the same material from what I can see). The lack of a bridge though and the minimal amount of wick I would say would make for a pretty weak dripping experience.
I can hit this thing over and over and it wicks and vapes perfectly, there is no way I could get that with dripping. If I take the cart out and vape, I get about 2-3 good hits and then its gone, with the cart I get exactly the same experience but I can keep hitting until I feel sick haha
What I am hoping for is some sort of tank mod for it, or possible waiting it out for the Tesla filter from Janty and somehow making it work on the A2.
Generally I found dripping with most atomisers to taste better, no flooding and so on. I didn't drip by choice it was more of an acceptance of the limitations of the atomisers I tried, they just performed better when dripped. The only atomiser I have used that performed correctly without dripping was the CE2R4s and I would say the A2 vape is very similar. Whether it is just down to the wick I am not sure (as they both use the same material from what I can see). The lack of a bridge though and the minimal amount of wick I would say would make for a pretty weak dripping experience.
I can hit this thing over and over and it wicks and vapes perfectly, there is no way I could get that with dripping. If I take the cart out and vape, I get about 2-3 good hits and then its gone, with the cart I get exactly the same experience but I can keep hitting until I feel sick haha
What I am hoping for is some sort of tank mod for it, or possible waiting it out for the Tesla filter from Janty and somehow making it work on the A2.
OK. That last post is making me very antsy to get my A2. I also ordered extra cartridges and tips to go with it. I will be running it on my ProVari and hopefully can mod an ego cone to work with it. I am ok with the eGo-tank system also, actually liking it for some flavors, however the atomizer expense is crazy, unless they last and perform for a long time.
Hey Jolly,
Just checked the diameter of the cone against the A2:
That is as much as you will get, the thickness of the A2 is just too wide, so your looking at cutting off about 60% of the cone.
I will have a go and post a picture if I succeed
Just checked the diameter of the cone against the A2:
That is as much as you will get, the thickness of the A2 is just too wide, so your looking at cutting off about 60% of the cone.
I will have a go and post a picture if I succeed
Looking forward to it. What is the measurement in mm? It is only to cover the battery connection, as you do not have to worry about airflow since the A2 has the airflow hole built in. I have airtools, dremel, and pipe cutter to do this. I won't be attempting until I actually get my A2, but am anxious to see your results.
This is on an eGo XL Platinum that the paint has rubbed off of. I need to work on the cone a bit more, it was black, but you get the idea:
The picture should be portrait but I have put it as landscape for the forum.
The picture should be portrait but I have put it as landscape for the forum.
Hey that looks awesome!!! I am not sure, but are you saying that is an eGo XL battery? I don't have any XLs, only the standards. Still curious of the measurements and what you used to cut the cone.
The A2 measures 7.8cm to the bottom of the 510 connection to the top of the mouthpiece. The 510 fitting is about .5cm, so once flush it should measure 7.2/7.3cm, just shy of 3 inches. The diameter is 1.3cm.
The eGo cone is 1.4cm outer diameter but the inner diameter at the widest part is only 1.1cm. I think there are variants on the cones but I would assume they are the same.
I cut the cone with a junior hacksaw and just sanded it down a bit. The XL battery + modified cone is around 4 inches.
The cone is now 1.6cm in height and the diameter at the top is now 1.2cm.
The eGo cone is 1.4cm outer diameter but the inner diameter at the widest part is only 1.1cm. I think there are variants on the cones but I would assume they are the same.
I cut the cone with a junior hacksaw and just sanded it down a bit. The XL battery + modified cone is around 4 inches.
The cone is now 1.6cm in height and the diameter at the top is now 1.2cm.
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Appreciated PhearFactor. I will be cutting an eGo cone down when I get mine... I may have to get a couple XL eGo style batts to balance it out some. The standard eGo i have here measures 7cm, so maybe not. It would be about the same size as the batt.
Just put it side by side on my normal eGo and it is only .2mm longer if you ignore the 510 connection as it is flush once screwed in. Pretty much the same size. I cut the cone on the XL, couldn't mount it any other way with what I have, so the XL batt did come in handy there haha.
Thanks for the reply
No problem Jay.
I thought I saw some mention of a drip trip in this German forum, but it might have been home-made:
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