Burnt taste with all my attys

[GoodDog]

Gooddog has requested that I post my findings based on my experience with 510 atomizers that I purchased from various Suppliers.

I bought ten 510 atomizers (I am not going to name the vendors–and it is not their fault anyway in my opinion, rather it is a manufacture issue). Of these ten, four of them emitted a foul taste as has been reported with so many 510 users. I used straight PG and cut VG to rule out e-liquid and drip smoked to rule out melting polyester batting right out of the box. (I have not used cartridges of any kind and only drip smoke for over a year now anyway).

Using stock 510 batteries, these four atomizers gave off a nasty burnt taste. After disassembly of two of the atomizers, I can preliminarily conclude that the nickel mesh bridge wicking is inferior and is burning instead of just heating.

There are only three components in an atomizer that could be subject to burn: (1) the coil; (2) the fiberglass wick that the coil surrounds; and (3) the nickel mesh bridge.

Upon disassembly of two of the four atomizers, I found the coils to be in tack and the fiberglass wick to have no discoloration. I removed the mesh, as I have done on so many other atomizers to find that the nickel mesh had a tinged blue and grey color and a slight burnt smell that also crumpled in upon manipulation. The mesh in most atomizers has no smell or discoloration and does not fall apart or crumple like this mesh.

With another of the four atomizers, I removed the nickel mesh bridge and drip smoked the atomizer with the coil in tact only to still have this foul taste. The taste would not dissipate even with removal of the visible wicking bridge. I can conclude that this removal of the bridge did not work simply because the metal wicking also goes under and around the visible part of the coil and can only be removed when the entire atomizer is disassembled.

I then disassembled one of the atomizers that did not emit any foul taste of the ten that I purchased only to find that there was no discoloration, smell, or crumpling of the nickel metal wicking material.


Bottom line---- four of the ten 510 atomizers that I purchased, employ an inferior mesh wicking bridge that burns and emits a foul taste, and that no cleaning of any kind can be done to abrogate the problem. This issue has absolutely nothing to do with user error as this metal wicking bridge is not suppose to burn or emit such a taste and needs to be rectified at the manufactures level.

As a Consumer, I can not say how wide spread the issue is, but I can say that I get reports of it every day.
　
Sun

orlampal, obviously you have NOT had the problem this thread is addressing and cleaning will not solve the problem. Do you really think that in the 259 posts in this thread no one had the insight to recommend cleaning them?!

 

[irieb]

I drain my with everclear using a plastic hose - does wonders, I am planning on making a video this weekend.. I'll post it when I have a link.

 

[Rambosmurf]

When I bought my first 510 it was the disposable one from MadVapes. Now I wish I bought 20 of them. Battery's are still going and the atty's work the best. Going on 3 weeks of heavy vaping. My new 510 kits have Pis*ed me off due to this atty nonsense.
Come' on MadVapes...get the disposables back in stock, Please.

 

[Jaganic_Solitude]

I've had the same problem, plus it started to produce a weak vape. I even soaked it in water, WHICH MADE THE ATTY NO LONGER WORK! I just purchased new ones from Awesome Vapor and they are working wonders for me. I honestly think it's a manufacturing issue there

 

[CaptJay]

We are basically consumer testing these for Joye imo lol I have a feeling we, the end users, are using the devices for WAY longer than they were originally intended for and that may be part of the issue imo. As a replacement for a cig I should be using mine way way less than I do, but I have it in my mouth ALL the time, not like when I smoked one for a few mins (I estimate about 3 tops the way I smoked) then didn't get another cig for about an hour or so (when I was on the PC much shorter and my PV use compared to cig use on weekends is roughly the same). So if my cig was a PV I'd have been using it 'hardly at all' during the week, compared to what I actually do with the PV.
I've been lucky with my attys so far (I add so far because I know what's gonna happen thanks to the law of choas if I say 'never'), with only one trying to die on me, and a hot rinse under a hot tap (and a 2 day dry) seems to have helped it stay alive. It did stutter along a couple days after the clean but now its fine again.
Sometimes they taste a bit harsh, but I use them til they are HOT and no way Ive had the 'reek' described here, so I figure I havent come across it yet.
But yeah - looks like we might be beta testing the hardware for Joye atm.

 

[pinkbeckie88]

i too am getting a horrible toxic tasting atty... it is completely unvapable. tastes horrid and makes me gag. i have no idea what to do...

 

[Sun Vaporer]

i too am getting a horrible toxic tasting atty... it is completely unvapable. tastes horrid and makes me gag. i have no idea what to do...

pinkbeckie88--all anyone can do is make it well known to the Supplier so the Supplier has the opportunity to contact the Manufacture. If enough Suppliers complain, the Manufacturer's will take up the issue and rectify it.

Sun

 

[pinkbeckie88]

pinkbeckie88--all anyone can do is make it well known to the Supplier so the Supplier has the opportunity to contact the Manufacture. If enough Suppliers complain, the Manufacturer's will take up the issue and rectify it.

Sun

Thank you. i thought i had done something wrong. because it only started making that bad taste after i had rinsed out my atty. it makes me very scared to rinse out my other one. i have contacted the person who sold them to me, and hopefully they will send me an exchange.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

Thank you. i thought i had done something wrong. because it only started making that bad taste after i had rinsed out my atty. it makes me very scared to rinse out my other one. i have contacted the person who sold them to me, and hopefully they will send me an exchange.

Pink--please report back as we whould like to know how the Suppliers are dealing with this issue. No need to name Suppliers as it is a Manufactures issue, but we would like reports on wheather or not Members are getting refunded.


Sun

 

[GoodDog]

The vendor that I purchased 8 of these bad ones from has willingly offered to replace them.

 

[pinkbeckie88]

Pink--please report back as we whould like to know how the Suppliers are dealing with this issue. No need to name Suppliers as it is a Manufactures issue, but we would like reports on wheather or not Members are getting refunded.


Sun

I will let you know what they do about this. i am still within my 14 days warranty, so i really do hope they replace it for me. i will let you know when i receive a reply from them.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

The vendor that I purchased 8 of these bad ones from has willingly offered to replace them.

Very good news to hear Gooddog---do let us know if the replacements are good!!

I will let you know what they do about this. i am still within my 14 days warranty, so i really do hope they replace it for me. i will let you know when i receive a reply from them.

We will be interested to hear how you make out as I was assured by many Supplers that this is NOT user error and they would honor their warranty. The Supplier is at the mercy of the Manufactures as well, but the Manufacturer should be reimbursing them for these defective atomizers.

Sun

 

[Ankle Spanker]

i would think your holding down the button for too long and burning your atty's or not giving it enough time to cool down

 

[Sun Vaporer]

i would think your holding down the button for too long and burning your atty's or not giving it enough time to cool down

Spanker--read this entire thread--this is not a case of user error. It is the most reported defect I have ever scene on this Forum.


Sun

 

[GoodDog]

Very good news to hear Gooddog---do let us know if the replacements are good!!

Sun

I encourage people to contact their supplier even if their warranty period has passed. These are manufacturer's defects and only recently have we known the reason and that it isn't caused by "user error" as many have claimed.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

I encourage people to contact their supplier even if their warranty period has passed. These are manufacturer's defects and only recently have we known the reason and that it isn't caused by "user error" as many have claimed.

It is strange how these warranties are all over the lot and I would hope that even out of warranty, they might do something for them Gooddog.


Sun

 

[Janie47]

Pink--please report back as we whould like to know how the Suppliers are dealing with this issue. No need to name Suppliers as it is a Manufactures issue, but we would like reports on wheather or not Members are getting refunded.
Sun

I had 3 of 4 bad on a recent order. My wonderful supplier immediately sent me 3 new ones, with a label to send my bad ones back.

 

[oldbroad]

I would like to know how many are having this problem but how would one differentiate between a dry atty and this unless they've experienced it? I'm not comfortable waiting too long to know whether I should keep using it or buy a different brand PV. I've spent a lot of money on the (several) Joye 510s I have and money is tight.

I ordered 3 3-pks each of 510 attys and 510 batts on Feb.12 (from Cignot.).....A couple days ago I started using the attys and every one has a terrible, burnt, chemical taste. I talked to Vickie at Cignot and basically she said that maybe 1 in a 1,000 are bad and it couldn't possibly be 9 bad attys at once....
Now I'm testing the batts...so far 4 of them don't hold a full charge and only last between 45 mins. and an hour n a half before they no longer work, tho the blue LED is still half lit.

I'm pretty well disgusted with the manufacturers at this point.And Cignot cuz they more or less denied it was an atty problem and yet today I've been reading A LOT of complaints!
I've even tried both the attys and batts on the pt, to NO avail,

 

[dreamstate83]

I'm new to ecigs myself, and im pretty sure im going to just give up and go back to newports at this point.

Every flavor juice just about tastes the same at this point between the 2 atomizers i obtained from cignot. The taste is chemical, almost burnt - as previously described. It covers the taste of all of the juice I use to the point where its mostly nasty with a 'hint' of flavor. Like someone tripped over a house fire with a mint candy.

Ugh.

 

[Remie]

I ordered 3 3-pks each of 510 attys and 510 batts on Feb.12 (from Cignot.).....A couple days ago I started using the attys and every one has a terrible, burnt, chemical taste. I talked to Vickie at Cignot and basically she said that maybe 1 in a 1,000 are bad and it couldn't possibly be 9 bad attys at once....
Now I'm testing the batts...so far 4 of them don't hold a full charge and only last between 45 mins. and an hour n a half before they no longer work, tho the blue LED is still half lit.

I'm pretty well disgusted with the manufacturers at this point.And Cignot cuz they more or less denied it was an atty problem and yet today I've been reading A LOT of complaints!
I've even tried both the attys and batts on the pt, to NO avail,

oldbroad - contact cignot and direct them to this thread. I know that I have, as well as at least one other person with the problem. They have been made aware of this problem and I believe if they know you are also aware that many of their other customers have been making attempts to let them know it really is a problem, and not "user error", or the "random bad atty" they will not hesitate to send you new atomizers. I believe they have a 2 week warranty, and since you contacted them within the time frame within they should honor that policy with you regardless.

It just saddens me to know that even after suppliers are educated as to the widespread nature of this issue, they are still quick to deny that it's a problem

It's unfortunate, because I believed in them as a good supplier. They made prompt remedy on an ordering issue within the first week I placed my first order with them.

Please don't give up - contact them again - they have been made aware of this issue. Copy Sun's information into an email to them, do whatever you can to persist. Since this isn't limited to one supplier, it would help to know that suppliers in general are responding to this issue seriously and are willing to take it up with the manufacturer instead of letting the problem rest on the consumer. I am sure they don't want to lose their customers.

It's worth a shot.