Vaping Use Prompts Trump Administration to Weigh Flavored E-Cigarettes Ban

[Eskie]

nvm

 

[sofarsogood]

Now he's backpedaling. BUT KEEP CALLING WH AND TWEETING BLOTUS.

This grab is from Labworks (Aussie)
From Dr. F (Greece)
I dunno which timezone the timestamp indicates.

My take on 45's latest distraction is:

Step 1 - Piss off vapers
Step 2 - Take it back
result = more votes from the triggered
also result = States still fighting bans - SSDD

I believe vapers are politically significant, not just numbers (10-20 million) but may be, hopefully, passion. If we make enough noise may be the Whitehouse will get the message. In 2016 I decided I was a single issue voter. Every vote I cast considered only the likelihood that the candidate might be more tolerant, or even supportive, of my vaping. Trump got my vote. I told people before the election, I'm voting for Trump because, if I have to be miserable I want company. If I can't vape may be I don't care who is President.

 

[Ceejay0875]

We should all be single issue voters-and that issue is freedom. To vape or not is a freedom. To exercise our right to speak freely or not is a freedom, and on down the list. Anyone who seeks to take my freedom will not get my vote.

 

[sofarsogood]

We should all be single issue voters-and that issue is freedom. To vape or not is a freedom. To exercise our right to speak freely or not is a freedom, and on down the list. Anyone who seeks to take my freedom will not get my vote.

Touche! Fair point. But governments limit our discretion in all sorts of ways for all sorts of reasons and we can quibble and debate them until all the options are gone. I want my next president to be somebody who cares about my health and my freedom.

BTW, in my opinion we don't have a health care problem. We have a health problem. If the Pres really wanted to show some leadership he would stand up and say he's sworn off the junk food, no snaks,, real food, no crap food, AND he's exercising. He should say it's our patriotic duty to stay healthy and far away from doctor's offices so we don't bankrupt the country. That would be leadership.

 

[Tabac man]

He's a bit of a pie eater himself.

 

[sonicbomb]

Vaping Use Prompts Trump Administration to Weigh Flavored E-Cigarettes Ban

Translation - Politician jumps on bandwagon to penalise a life saving technology based on a small number of individuals misusing an adulterated street product essentially unrelated to the technology.

 

[CMD-Ky]

Touche! Fair point. But governments limit our discretion in all sorts of ways for all sorts of reasons and we can quibble and debate them until all the options are gone. I want my next president to be somebody who cares about my health and my freedom.

BTW, in my opinion we don't have a health care problem. We have a health problem. If the Pres really wanted to show some leadership he would stand up and say he's sworn off the junk food, no snaks,, real food, no crap food, AND he's exercising. He should say it's our patriotic duty to stay healthy and far away from doctor's offices so we don't bankrupt the country. That would be leadership.

I'll care about my health, let the politicians focus on preserving freedom; I don't want their mouthing about freedom. Just get out of my life and leave me along. As I see our health and our health care the more politicians "care" the worse both get. Is there nothing that politicians "care" about that is not worsened by their care? And...their care generally results in a loss of freedom. From Wickard v. Filburn, 317 U.S. 111 (1942) to National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius, 567 U.S. 519 (2012) freedom is continuously under assault by those who "care".

 

[DaveP]

Just me, but I read this as a knee jerk action. If someone dies as a result of adding a dangerous additive to a soft drink, do you ban all soft drinks? If it was a one time action by a single person, do you penalize the nation because you think another uninformed citizen could play copy cat?

Personally, I think the entire country is probably aware that you don't inhale the vapors from an oil based substance.

 

[CMD-Ky]

Just me, but I read this as a knee jerk action. If someone dies as a result of adding a dangerous additive to a soft drink, do you ban all soft drinks? If it was a one time action by a single person, do you penalize the nation because you think another uninformed citizen could play copy cat?

If there is a vote to be gathered or a headline to be grabbed then the answer may be, "Yes". And that is sad.

 

[DaveP]

If there is a vote to be gathered or a headline to be grabbed then the answer may be, "Yes". And that is sad.

That, and mid term elections are on for November 5, 2019. Gotta show some strength in action to the masses to get the vote.

 

[vaper1960]

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
I really like your signature!

 

[zoiDman]

New York Gov. Cuomo announces emergency executive action to ban sale of flavored e-cigarettes

 

[vaper1960]

This is not a problem of unregulated *vaping* products. This is a problem of unregulated cannabis, because if cannabis (ie. THC oil) was regulated, the teens would not have gotten it from the black market and vaped it in JUUL catridges.

I'm sure you mean well, but you don't have a clue! I'm in California where it's legal and available everywhere. It's NOT IN JUUL CARTS!!! What gave you that idea? No offense, but get your facts straight... it just confuses other people and they will go around quoting this.

 

[vaper1960]

Yes, and I think all of us are. Actually, I've been thinking of asking for cigarettes lately here. They make me go outside with the smokers for vape breaks. The second hand smoke is very irritating, and my clothes, hair, etc get stinky as if I were already smoking again. It's like I never quit. So I was actually thinking of getting a pack of cigarettes just in case. It's easier not to think of it with working vape supplies, but now I'm thinking of it more.

Yes... look at my new post:
It's called "social engineering"

 

[Eskie]

I'm sure you mean well, but you don't have a clue! I'm in California where it's legal and available everywhere. It's NOT IN JUUL CARTS!!! What gave you that idea? No offense, but get your facts straight... it just confuses other people and they will go around quoting this.

Besides, aren't teens restricted and forced to buy from another market to obtain their products?

 

[vaper1960]

Human beings are so stupid (especially the one in the White House).
None of those idiots will even consider what happens when you ban something so widely used.
Creeping Volstead Act 2.0 anyone?
Criminal enterprises popping up out of nowhere to fill the void (and the crime that is precipitated as a result).
If they think Flavours are dangerous now (they aren't), just wait.
If they thing things are unregulated now, just wait.
If they bothered to look, they would see that Vape Juice Manufacturers are one the the best Self - Regulated groups out there.
Folks losing their Businesses and the Folks employed by them losing their Jobs - I do hope they remember that when 2020 rolls around.
As for these Kids.....Parents need to stop expecting everyone else (the Schools, the Cops, the Celebrities, the Neighbors, the Internet ect.) to instill Morality and Common Sense into their Kids - THAT IS THEIR JOB AS PARENTS.
I'm so sick of Parents that use their Kids to bludgeon everyone else.
And they wonder why Kids are increasingly becoming unwelcome here and there.

Diito! Double double Ditto ditto!! (I got a little excited)

 

[vaper1960]

He's a bit of a pie eater himself.

What was that famous thing where someone threw a pie at a politician... can't recall at the moment?

 

[vaper1960]

Translation - Politician jumps on bandwagon to penalise a life saving technology based on a small number of individuals misusing an adulterated street product essentially unrelated to the technology.

Thank you! That is a very straightforward way to put it.
It's like blaming obesity and diabetes on the spoon!

 

[tA71ana]

New York Gov. Cuomo announces emergency executive action to ban sale of flavored e-cigarettes

I just saw this....grrr

 

[zoiDman]

I just saw this....grrr

1,300 People Died Today from Smoking. And 1,300 More will Die tomorrow.

And some Self Appointed Glory Seeker Pin Head wants to Ignore that to be the One who people think is Saving the Children.