Interesting. I am definitely getting some "popping" with the CC, but I figured that was OK. I'll have to inspect my wicks for "shrinkage" and gaps.....
Good to know, thanks!
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Interesting. I am definitely getting some "popping" with the CC, but I figured that was OK. I'll have to inspect my wicks for "shrinkage" and gaps.....
Good to know, thanks!
JP, it's hard to tell. If there's tiny amounts of crackling & popping, it should be ok. Vape on and see what the results will be.
BUT if you hear loud, big bang popping every time you press the fire button... look at the coil. You'll most likely see a gap between the CelluCotton and Coil. Try another build with a little more CC.
BUT if you hear loud, big bang popping every time you press the fire button... look at the coil. You'll most likely see a gap between the CelluCotton and Coil. Try another build with a little more CC.
That's exactly what I'm getting (a loud bang on fire-up, then mild crackling after that). I will pull the top off of my Heron and check the wick....thanks for the tip!
It seems to be vaping REALLY well though, so I am tempted to leave well enough alone, but we'll see....I'll let you know what I find....
Honestly, I don't really remember, I've been using this coil for so long; over a month, I know for sure. I know it's 1.8Ω, and I know for my kayfuns I usually prefer a 7/64 drillbit, and I believe I used 29ga, which gives me a bit of the "stoutness" of 28ga but doesn't require so many wraps to get to the 1.7-1.8 ohms I generally prefer. My own "trick" is basically just to shove as much rayon into it as I can fit without deforming the coil (which is why I like the stoutness, it makes it much harder to deform a coil), and I always "prime" it with some juice before I close it up again, so I can make sure that the coil is full, no gaps, and that seems to work extremely well for me; the last rayon wick was about 3 wks old before it started tasting "off", but I don't think it was necessarily the wick that was the problem, but just the coil itself needing to be dry burned and rinsed -- the wick was still pristine white, which made me suspect it was just a "dirty" coil that was causing the off taste.
I've been using rayon in my small tanks for over a month too, and all I ever really need to do to those is add a bit more rayon to the flavor wick when I notice a bit of a leak on the battery contact -- the coils are so much smaller, and using 32ga wire, I have to be a bit more careful of how much I shove into it, so it doesn't mess up the coil, but the flavor wick saves those. They all still taste just great.
And I agree about rayon standing up to heat much better; I could never go much over 8 or 8.5 watts with cotton, in my kayfuns, but I can easily go to 9 or 9.5 using rayon -- I really don't need to go over that, don't care for too much heat, so the rayon works great for me, at my preferred wattage.
Andria
Yeah, I like the fact it shrinks if you don't have enough. It is really neat stuff..I don't get why sally's has a small green box labeled "cellu-cotton", but it is just cotton.
When I bought the box two months ago, I had a realization that maybe this hobby had gotten out of hand.. walking out of a beauty store with a crate of wicking material, never tried before.. probably checking my USPS application while walking.
I understand the need for new threads. Everything has been covered, but good luck finding it with all the social groups that develop in threads..
True. I do agree with smoking causing us all to go crazy about vaping. Who knows? Next there may be a tooth pick saturated in BBQ sauce, Mustard and Ketchup for a "hickory smoke wiener" flavor that will surely indulge. Please, no one get any ideas. I'm only kidding here. Speaking of which, I could go for BBQ Ribs about now.
I've read about a few people getting CelloCotton from Sally's, and it being 100% Cotton. I'm not aware of two types of CelluCotton. They must be getting the wrong kind. Here's a link to make sure you get 100% Rayon fibers. The kind you get will look Identical to the pictures in the link (Blue and White). It has "100% Rayon fibers" written on it, and if it doesn't have #44043 or #44060 written on it... you're getting the wrong product.
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I've read about a few people getting CelloCotton from Sally's, and it being 100% Cotton. I'm not aware of two types of CelluCotton. They must be getting the wrong kind. Here's a link to make sure you get 100% Rayon fibers. The kind you get will look Identical to the pictures in the link (Blue and White). It has "100% Rayon fibers" written on it, and if it doesn't have #44043 or #44060 written on it... you're getting the wrong product.
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There's four 100% rayon product numbers
44040 Regular Coil 1200 Ft. Dispenser Box
44043 Regular Coil 3 Lbs. Dispenser Box
44060 Regular Coil 500 Ft. Dispenser Box
44130 Regular Coil 40 Ft./Box 12 Boxes/Case
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There's also reinforced rayon and cotton "cellucotton" which are the ones to avoid.
44040 Regular Coil 1200 Ft. Dispenser Box
44043 Regular Coil 3 Lbs. Dispenser Box
44060 Regular Coil 500 Ft. Dispenser Box
44130 Regular Coil 40 Ft./Box 12 Boxes/Case
Welcome to Graham Beauty
There's also reinforced rayon and cotton "cellucotton" which are the ones to avoid.
I second that... my husband worked all day today at a friend's house (made some good $$$ too so I was able to place a $32 order at ecigexpress!!! yay!!! more vapemail!!!), so I just ate some chicken tenders about 7pm. Alas no ribs available, so I think I'll just have a can of Beanie-Weenies and some sliced canteloupe.
Andria
Got the 500 and wicked up my patriot, amazing flavor the and vapor. Set up a kayfun and same result. Broke out a pro tank and this is the best performance I have had from this little guy. I was not a fan of the pt when I got it close to a year ago. I don't know what the deal is but I find this stuff to be the easiest wick to work with. Rayon and me were meant to be!! Pro tank looks great on my little vapor shark
Very similar to my own experience. I had more or less retired my mini PT IIs along with the T3S's when I got my kayfuns (and caterpillar, though I don't use it much), but I do like the glass tanks, so when I had such good results with the rayon in the kayfun, I tried it in one of my mini PT IIs, and man, totally amazing taste! Almost as good as from the kayfun, though of course with less TH. So I tried the rayon in my ARO Pyrex, and again, just flat out amazing flavor. I'm completely sold on rayon; anyone want a mostly-full bag of organic cotton balls?
Andria
Is there any other factor that could cause that extreme popping? I got my other kayfun setup tonight with my favorite blueberry muffin, that stuff is so good I was having to refill the mini PT II way too often! I'm getting a LOT of that very extreme popping, so I'm thinking, I bet the rayon has shrunk. So I take it all apart, have a look... and the rayon appears to be filling the coil, as much as it was when I first wicked it and filled it up, so I'm kind of at a loss to explain what could be causing this. I was thinking of maybe laying a piece of the rayon on top of the coil, sorta like a flavor wick in one of the small tanks, so it won't pop me right in the mouth -- would that work?
Andria
I almost always use a flavor wick with rayon in my Taifun GT. Just don't totally cover the coil. I find if I do that, it really suppresses the vapor. If I get it so I have about half of the coil covered, though, it really helps. I use a dark juice, though, so if I'm just using that one all day, I end up changing out the rayon twice a day... once first thing in the morning, and once right as I stop work for the day. But I have gotten used to doing that, and it is quick now. The other thing I do with a flavor wick is drip 3 or 4 drops of juice in through the drip tip when I put in the new wick to help it out when it is getting started.
I'm running 8 wraps of 29GA kanthal around a 1/8 drill bit and showing 2.1 ohms. I find a little higher ohm coil like that keeps my rayon happier, too. And I don't squeeze my coils all the way together anymore.
Ok, thx for the info! I never heard anything last night and got tired of waiting, so I just put the blueberry muffin back into my Mini PT II, and changed the wick in that particular kayfun to use my regular Virginia in it. It's not popping now. Still have no clue what was causing that, since the wick appeared to be completely filling the coil.
However, today I noticed that in that Mini PT II where I've had the blueberry muffin for a couple weeks, I kept getting that "hot metal" taste... so I took it apart to have a look, and I have to say, rayon is *NOT* immune to gunking, if the juice is sufficiently gunky. The wick that was inside the coil was completely black, and the coil itself looked barbecued! I just used a different coil that I had already made, and rewicked it with rayon instead of the silica that was in it. I think that other coil is toast, needs to be completely redone, not just rewicked. And I hate doing those, they're so dang tiny, but it was the last one I had ready to use, so I guess I gotta get busy and build some universal/PT coils. I do like my mini PT IIs, especially wicked with rayon!
Thx,
Andria
I've just recently found that out. Tobacco Absolute (I suspect) can clog Rayon and gunk the coils. Still, there is something to be said for the density of the Rayon wick. After a new wick and coil assembly gunked up in short order, I thinned the wick out some. After another thinning, it performed okay, but not as good as less gunky juices.
Well this blueberry muffin is a little on the dark side, and it's sweet; also, I added just a smidge of "banana nut bread" to the blueberry muffin, and that stuff is nearly black, and very sweet. I think I've read that those kinds of juices are bad for gunking up coils. I'll just have to remember that and check it every few days, so it doesn't totally trash the coil, just the wick.
Andria
UPDATE
I finally got some cellucotton today... rewicked some drippers to try it out.
The flavor of my regular juice is not the same as with cotton. I feel some kind of higher TH and what some call "wet vape".
I will use it as much as possible to see if I get that same swelling feeling in the throat I got with organic cotton.
Will let you know.
I finally got some cellucotton today... rewicked some drippers to try it out.
The flavor of my regular juice is not the same as with cotton. I feel some kind of higher TH and what some call "wet vape".
I will use it as much as possible to see if I get that same swelling feeling in the throat I got with organic cotton.
Will let you know.
This is my results of the popping sound. Actually popping isn't bad but a sizzling sound is. There is always a certain sizzle sound as you vape but this sound usually dissipates as you release the fire button, or very soon after but when this sound continues a longer time after you release the fire button, it's definitely a sign of insufficient wicking material in the coil. I can usually listen to this sound in a fresh build and detect if the wick amounts are correct. If this sizzle sound is slightly louder then usual and continues longer a dry hit is inevitable.Interesting. I am definitely getting some "popping" with the CC, but I figured that was OK. I'll have to inspect my wicks for "shrinkage" and gaps.....
Good to know, thanks!
Now popping is different, this is usually louder with twisted wires or coils that have little gaps in them. This popping can also be from certain juices or just a little water left in the atty after a rebuild. This popping sometimes starts out a little loud but then starts to diminish after a half tank or so. So there is a popping sound, then there is a sizzle sound.
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I can't seem to get past the texture lol makes my teeth itch like nails on a chalkboard everytime I take a hit I'm sure its all in my head, I'm going to try and boil/rinse/boil it and see if that helps I also got myne from a generous ecf member who also sent me some koh gen do, and sheishedo which both I like extremly well compared to regular organic cotton.
How was it affter you boiled it? i thought this stuff didnt need to be boiled prior to use, but sometimes the first few hits taste kind of weird. (Chemicaly taste)
I just got my very first order of rayon today. I rebuilt pretty much everything I own.
I totally screwed up the Magma, not sure what I did, but it just isn't working well.
The Kayfun is pretty darn good. May retry it just for fun.
I absolutely nailed the IGO W and the Atomic though. I dunno what it is about tiny little atties, but they just do it for me. This Igo W is easily the best tasting dripper setup I've ever used. I'm typically a mouth to lung vaper, so I really like the stock airflow. It's certainly not a dripper for blowing clouds. 1.3 Ohm single coil with the wick short and straight down to the deck on one side and long and doubled back under itself onto the deck on the other. Absolutely ripping at around 16-17 watts.
Gah. If I don't put this down I'm going to have to rewick it tonight.
I totally screwed up the Magma, not sure what I did, but it just isn't working well.
The Kayfun is pretty darn good. May retry it just for fun.
I absolutely nailed the IGO W and the Atomic though. I dunno what it is about tiny little atties, but they just do it for me. This Igo W is easily the best tasting dripper setup I've ever used. I'm typically a mouth to lung vaper, so I really like the stock airflow. It's certainly not a dripper for blowing clouds. 1.3 Ohm single coil with the wick short and straight down to the deck on one side and long and doubled back under itself onto the deck on the other. Absolutely ripping at around 16-17 watts.
Gah. If I don't put this down I'm going to have to rewick it tonight.
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