Check out my Nano "dragon" Coil build

[dice57]

Cool dice I'm finding the wicking on the oddy vertical build to be challenging I'll get it right and it vapes great.. go and replace it and I'm having trouble replicating it. It's pretty tricky. Gonna have to open this up at work here and see if I can improve the wicking.

Can you post pics of how your wicking? I'm wondering if we should start a new thread for these builds? I have a new thread ready to go just need to submit it.

I'll try to remember on my next tank fill up. I have 3 Kayfun clones with this build, and have the cotton densities fairly down. It is selective for sure. Just a tad to thick and can't chain vape without priming, to thin and wick can't keep up with higher watts, and get dry hits. Just right and "Houston we have Liftoff" My last build, when I test fired it, could vape the plume that was shooting out of the volcano.

Sounds good about starting the vertical build thread, would definitely subscribe and participate. Should call it "The Romulan Warp Core Build" or, no, maybe just "The Warp Core", no ahh really thinking "The Vulcan Volcano Build". Damn, where's my meds!! lol,

I'm using a mvp 2. Guess I should go for 1-1.5 ohm?

yeah that range would give you more flexibility. for sure.

i got it set to 11 watts(max)

NO no no, that's not nearly enough watts, need to pump it up to 5.5 volts on a 2.1ohm coil. 14-15 watts, and she shines.
I had a build that started at 2.3ohms, was working great, but after a week of use, she crept up to 2.6ohms. at 6 volts that was only 13.86 watts, while excellent vape it wasn't spectacular. so did a 1.3ohm build and can start at 4.4 volts or just under 15 watts.

I believe the mvp maxes out at 5 volts, so I'd aim for a 1ohm build. I see that the watts setting mode is 11max, but, is that the max output? What's the amp rating on your switch? Go into volts mode and set it at 3.3 volts, this will give you 10.89 watts with a 1ohm coil, then adjust up .1 volt at a time, and see if she'll fire at 3.9 volts, this would get you 15.21 watts with a 1ohm build. Depending on the amp ratting of your switch, will determine the max watts that she can put out. Since you have built in over discharge protection, there should be no danger of damage. The Provari maxes out at 15.5 watts, or there about, and will give me an error message when I try to push it to hard. It would truly suck if the MVP maxed out at 11watts.

Just set up your coil with no wick, and test pulse the build, and adjust it up to see how high she can go. Any issues with your current build can be attributed to coil position in relation to the air intake and density and amount of cotton. Should still vape good, but not to the extreme end.

 

[ceejay]

NO no no, that's not nearly enough watts, need to pump it up to 5.5 volts on a 2.1ohm coil. 14-15 watts, and she shines.
I had a build that started at 2.3ohms, was working great, but after a week of use, she crept up to 2.6ohms. at 6 volts that was only 13.86 watts, while excellent vape it wasn't spectacular. so did a 1.3ohm build and can start at 4.4 volts or just under 15 watts.

I believe the mvp maxes out at 5 volts, so I'd aim for a 1ohm build. I see that the watts setting mode is 11max, but, is that the max output? What's the amp rating on your switch? Go into volts mode and set it at 3.3 volts, this will give you 10.89 watts with a 1ohm coil, then adjust up .1 volt at a time, and see if she'll fire at 3.9 volts, this would get you 15.21 watts with a 1ohm build. Depending on the amp ratting of your switch, will determine the max watts that she can put out. Since you have built in over discharge protection, there should be no danger of damage. The Provari maxes out at 15.5 watts, or there about, and will give me an error message when I try to push it to hard. It would truly suck if the MVP maxed out at 11watts.

Just set up your coil with no wick, and test pulse the build, and adjust it up to see how high she can go. Any issues with your current build can be attributed to coil position in relation to the air intake and density and amount of cotton. Should still vape good, but not to the extreme end.

Yea afaik the mvp can only see be set to 11 watts max and it can't do sub ohm. Ordered some 30 gauge wire, hopefully it'll turn out better

 

[t2ak]

Yea afaik the mvp can only see be set to 11 watts max and it can't do sub ohm. Ordered some 30 gauge wire, hopefully it'll turn out better

The picture you posted looks like about 11 wraps. Try 8-9. That should get you down to about 1.7ish. You should be able to get it pluming with that. I wouldn't go less than that because so far I have had trouble with short coils. It seems there's a length to diameter ratio that needs to be maintained. You can always try messing around with that. Experiments never hurt anyone right



The Giraffe.

 

[dice57]

ahh wrapped a great coil. got in a good supply of 28 awg Kanthal and wrapped a 12-13 wrap coil around a blunt nose needle from a juice bottle. 1.2 ohms, it's a thing of beauty!!

coil wrapped on needle____________________coil mounted on Russian

test pulse ------------------------------ wrapped and ready for juice ---------------------------- fire in the hole

there be clouds! ------------------------------------------- Damn that's a good vape!

See Spot


Sorry about the links, pic's were to big to image here. Didn't really know how many wraps I had till I took a pick, was shooting for 13 wraps and looks like a 12-13 wrap, wanted close to a 1 ohm coil, got 1.1ohms on first test with leads trimmed then once juiced up she tested almost 1.2 ohms under load. so it looks like ~.1 ohms per wrap with this juice needle using 28aw Kanthal. Used the drill chuck method for wrapping these tight small wraps, liking this method. Vapping Goood!!

 

[Proetus]

Can't wait to rebuild my Nimbus and Gennys like this!

 

[MrStik]

Built a quad coil on my nimbus, but backed it down to a dual coil. It got quite warm as a quad and the vape production was not that much better than my current dual coil setup. I am running dual coils with 32g wire. I had some leftover so i decided to give it a shot.

 

[Kriskee]

3rd coil ive ever made w cotton..used a push pin to make the coil w 28g. Reads at 1 ohm.

To me, this setup is a rsst solution. No driping in pockets..wicking is super efficient.

My old single setup had a sowing pin..but was single coil. When i rebuild ill post my finished product.


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[Uselesstool]

 

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[Uselesstool]

3rd coil ive ever made w cotton..used a push pin to make the coil w 28g. Reads at 1 ohm.

To me, this setup is a rsst solution. No driping in pockets..wicking is super efficient.

My old single setup had a sowing pin..but was single coil. When i rebuild ill post my finished product.


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Only 1 ohm? Looks like it would be a lot higher with that many wraps.

 

[Cuando]

The picture you posted looks like about 11 wraps. Try 8-9. That should get you down to about 1.7ish. You should be able to get it pluming with that. I wouldn't go less than that because so far I have had trouble with short coils. It seems there's a length to diameter ratio that needs to be maintained. You can always try messing around with that. Experiments never hurt anyone right


The Giraffe.

Hey all. That's exactly how mine ended up, first time with a microcoil and/or cotton, and at 8/9 wraps with 30g kanthal I am getting 1.7 ohms and absolutely amazing flavor, as well as monster plumes.

iTEO, great stuff here, man. Looks like from what others are posting I may finally get some actual use out of my RSST. It's never performed how I'd imagined with mesh. Definitely going to experiment with the dragon in other devices, too. So glad to have woken the dragon.

 

[Kriskee]

Only 1 ohm? Looks like it would be a lot higher with that many wraps.

Right, but with a dual 2 ohm coils the resistance is cut in half..


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[mnementh666]

Alright... Got bored waiting for my OS to install. After trying for the split coil bunny build with 30g on a sewing pin, then a figure 8 coil on a sewing pin, finally got this contraption to work out. Call it a series nano dual coil. Yeah, it's 30g on sewing pin too.

Vapes pretty OK actually. Need to work on the cotton bed a bit more though.

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[iz2sick]

Sooo... I took the tips I read in here. Awesome. Question though, does everyone else experience dry/burnt hits after a couple of drags? I can maybe get 3 drags per drip. I don't really count the amount of drips. I just saturate the cotton. I'm not using much I know that. Anyway, I had a twisted 30g dual nano set on a cotton bed before this. Read the tips in here and angled my coils up and wrapped a bit of cotton over half the coils. Wow, big difference.

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[jozef-3d]

Sooo... I took the tips I read in here. Awesome. Question though, does everyone else experience dry/burnt hits after a couple of drags? I can maybe get 3 drags per drip. I don't really count the amount of drips. I just saturate the cotton. I'm not using much I know that. Anyway, I had a twisted 30g dual nano set on a cotton bed before this. Read the tips in here and angled my coils up and wrapped a bit of cotton over half the coils. Wow, big difference.

It seems like you are drowning your coils by over saturation. I found that testing how many drops helps. Start with 4 then slowly add a drop or two in the next full until you find the limit at which it starts to drown the coil. When firing, you shouldn't see the juice boiling and sputtering at the coil. This is an indication of the coil drowning. It is also possible that you might be getting a hotspot after your 3 or so drags. What did this meter to? From my experience making sure that the legs, and all the coils have even wick coverage or else the areas that don't will heat up sooner and produce dry/burnt hits.





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[iz2sick]

It seems like you are drowning your coils by over saturation. I found that testing how many drops helps. Start with 4 then slowly add a drop or two in the next full until you find the limit at which it starts to drown the coil. When firing, you shouldn't see the juice boiling and sputtering at the coil. This is an indication of the coil drowning. It is also possible that you might be getting a hotspot after your 3 or so drags. What did this meter to? From my experience making sure that the legs, and all the coils have even wick coverage or else the areas that don't will heat up sooner and produce dry/burnt hits.





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No, it's not drowning. I have drowned it on accident, but in those situations I give it a few burns before vaping. You can see in the video that it's not sputtering.

I've tried so many different ways to place the cotton and every time I get a dry hit fast. I thought it was just a consequence of doing these types of builds with cotton. Constant dripping action.

EDIT: This meters at 0.35ohms by the way. Yea, I think it just gets really hot after multiple drags. I think I might try a single dragon or more wraps each coil. I want to try SS mesh around the coil and then a cotton layer to reduce burning, but I'm a bit apprehensive about using mesh after reading about the whole Cr VI thing.

 

[JD1]

Hey all. That's exactly how mine ended up, first time with a microcoil and/or cotton, and at 8/9 wraps with 30g kanthal I am getting 1.7 ohms and absolutely amazing flavor, as well as monster plumes.

iTEO, great stuff here, man. Looks like from what others are posting I may finally get some actual use out of my RSST. It's never performed how I'd imagined with mesh. Definitely going to experiment with the dragon in other devices, too. So glad to have woken the dragon.

"If you can't take the heat, don't poke the dragon." That old saying might make a good theme for this thread lol. But actually, they just seem to be efficient. I'm not noticing any extra heat in my 804, set up with a vertical duel wire 32 ga. coil at 1.6 ohms. That's a good thing for me because I prefer a medium warm vape.

I agree, great stuff here and +1 to iTEO for starting the thread.

 

[crazyarms]

Started building these coils almost exclusively now but i was always building dual nano coils. My nemesis came in yesterday so i decided to take down my AGI hybrid and set it up as a dripper so i could have that nice flush look. Im not sure if its the nemesis or if its the single coil but it is intense. Much more throat hit than im used to but its a nice change. Makes it feel more like what it looks like when huge clouds fill up the room.
Tried the angled coil approach as well and it definitely makes a difference. 8 wraps of 28g kanthal on my dripper bottle needle. Will post pictures when im not at work....

 

[jozef-3d]

No, it's not drowning. I have drowned it on accident, but in those situations I give it a few burns before vaping. You can see in the video that it's not sputtering.

I've tried so many different ways to place the cotton and every time I get a dry hit fast. I thought it was just a consequence of doing these types of builds with cotton. Constant dripping action.

EDIT: This meters at 0.35ohms by the way. Yea, I think it just gets really hot after multiple drags. I think I might try a single dragon or more wraps each coil. I want to try SS mesh around the coil and then a cotton layer to reduce burning, but I'm a bit apprehensive about using mesh after reading about the whole Cr VI thing.

At that low of a resistance you are most likely heating up quick. wrapping the coil in ss mesh even if you're successful won't produce as much. I find that having some air pass through the coils helps it cool a bit.




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[iz2sick]

Alright guys, I did a quad twisted 30g nano dragon single coil. This thing rocks. I like this better than my twisted dual nano coil. Heats up nice and even and doesn't have any lag. Vape is warm and flavor is bang. This setup also allows me to get in more draws before dry hits. How do you guys make those split videos? Instagram on my iPhone doesn't do that. It allows me to upload two very short videos and plays them one after the other.