Chit Chat in VOLTVILLE Thread #2 :)

[rave]

Ditto what she said. I couldn't use the planer very long because of my broken hands but I can work on it a little at a time when I go up there. Here desk riser is really cool. The pic doesn't do it justice. You should see the matts she put in a few of my drawings. They are textured suede and gorgeous. I was going to post a pic but the color and texture didn't show up.

We designed a project that I want to make on Sketchup and it turned out pretty good but she makes it look so easy. And the donuts were great!

Well, thank you, Terry. I had a riot when you were here. We were like a couple of teenage gals having a sleepover.

Bears are protected here like the gator in Fla. I am all for protecting wildlife and understand that we humans have encroached on their territory. On the other hand there is a thing called evolution and survival of the fittest. We do have an unfair advantage in those departments though. Makes for a tough balancing act. In the mean time the bears are moving south every year and should be present, state wide, in another couple of years. I am glad we have a big, strong, protective dog. At least he will provide a warning.

Getting a fine for killing an aggressive animal in self defense just seems a little over the top to me.

If something is trying to make a dinner of me, I'd take it out too. A fine is better than a tombstone. The bears are moving westward as well. They are already here in Indiana. My BF has seen them when he's been out running roads some mornings. I'm seriously not looking forward to them arriving here. Unfortunately, people make it so easy for them. There are garbage cans to plunder and people that feed them because they don't understand the consequences.

 

[rave]

Naw, that's not the right word, Raven. I think that "insanity" might be a better word.

Hiya Jerry.

The word I was thinking was a bit more anatomical.

 

[JerryRM]

I know, Raven, I know.



I think I have told this story, but I will tell it again. Many years ago, a pack of 3 dogs tried to attack my cat, I chased them off with a baseball bat. A short time later, they killed my neighbor's dog.

Then my nieces were born and would spend time here, playing in my yard. They didn't know it, but I had a loaded rifle at the ready. If those dogs or any animal or human for that matter, had tried to hurt those little girls, they would have found out that they made a big mistake. A very BIG mistake. Now, I have a grandniece and a grandnephew on the way. My brother-in-law has that rifle, maybe I should get it back from him !!!

 

[rave]

Musta read my mind, Jerry.

Yep. I'd have to agree. A member of my BF's family was trapped on top of his tractor for hours by a pack of wild dogs. Ferals are everywhere in Indiana and quite dangerous. There was a time when he had a feral come after him when he was alone. Fortunately, he always carries in the woods because their property is enormous. You could have a colony of sasquatch there and never know it. When we had the mountain lion here, I was carrying whenever I went for a hike. I always do when I camp alone.

 

[JerryRM]

Raven, you are surrounded by more "wilderness", than I am and therefore, more wild animals. I can see the need to "carry" there. I have my acre of land and nearby, the 500 acres of woods, but other than that, I live in a suburban area. It used to be more "country", but then came the superhighway and with it a building boom. Still though, from time to time I am surprised, when I see a fox walking down the road and into my woods, or the deer, that like to visit here, casually munching on leaves and plants in my yard.

A bear or two, have even been spotted, traveling through town. But they don't live here, there's really no place for them to stay.

 

[Qew]

Lions and gators and bears, oh my! Hiya Volties!

 

[awsum140]

We've got the small stuff, squirrels (and they can be a problem in many ways), ground hogs, rabbits and the bigger stuff like deer, fox, coyotes and bears have been seen in the area but I haven't seen them or any signs of them, so far. Carrying here in NJ is a non-starter. Getting a carry permit, concealed or otherwise, has gotten basically impossible. We're rural, some development, but lots of farmland and woods within a short walk plus the Rancocas River, really a big creek, is right down the street so there's lots of water available. Neighbors feed the deer so when the bears move in they'll have lots of convenient food, too. When that happens, time for the 30-30 to be a little more handy.

 

[JerryRM]

Hiya, Q !!!!!

Hiya, Awsum !!!!!

The way that I read the 2nd Amendment, everyone has the Constitutional right to carry. "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

 

[awsum140]

Hey, Jerry!

Not here in the feudal fiefdom of the Great Nanny State. Heck, even firing a gun will get you arrested in every town in the state, discharging a firearm is prohibited by local ordinances as well, that doesn't include licensed hunting but if you were to shoot an intruder who was trying to harm you, in your own home, that could be a charge by the local prosecutor. Great place.

 

[awsum140]

Leonard Nimoy - Live Long and Prosper

 

[JerryRM]

Hey, Jerry!

Not here in the feudal fiefdom of the Great Nanny State. Heck, even firing a gun will get you arrested in every town in the state, discharging a firearm is prohibited by local ordinances as well, that doesn't include licensed hunting but if you were to shoot an intruder who was trying to harm you, in your own home, that could be a charge by the local prosecutor. Great place.

Here too, in the People's Republic of Rhode Island, Awsum. If someone breaks into my house, I'm legally required to escape from my home and let the criminal take whatever they want to. No "castle" law here. But having a law is one thing, getting a grand jury to indict is an entirely different matter. A gunshop in Providence was broken into, the owner was still there and shot the intruder. Charges were brought against the owner, but a grand jury refused to indict.

 

[JerryRM]

Leonard Nimoy - Live Long and Prosper

You will be missed, Mr. Spock !!!!!

 

[rave]

Hey, Jerry!

Not here in the feudal fiefdom of the Great Nanny State. Heck, even firing a gun will get you arrested in every town in the state, discharging a firearm is prohibited by local ordinances as well, that doesn't include licensed hunting but if you were to shoot an intruder who was trying to harm you, in your own home, that could be a charge by the local prosecutor. Great place.

I just can't "like" that post, Awsum. And, the only reason that I "liked" yours, Jerry, was because the grand jury refused to prosecute. Our freedoms and rights are being cut down one by one. We have the castle law here. And both of the younguns have lifetime carry permits. Theirs is a dangerous job. You never know what you may encounter in the woods while marking utilities. Even scarier than the big, wild critters are the drug producers which set up labs in all sorts of out of the way places and can be very aggressive. I don't carry in public, but I do on my land. No permit required. If it were required, I'd do it anyhow. Just sayin'.

 

[SandySu]

New York has the SAFE Act. (See NY SAFE Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) As I drive around the countryside, many residences have signs in their front yards opposing it.

 

[JerryRM]

New York has the SAFE Act. (See NY SAFE Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) As I drive around the countryside, many residences have signs in their front yards opposing it.

I can't like that post, Sandy.

 

[SandySu]

Jerry, why can't you like it? Because you don't like the SAFE Act, or because you don't like people opposing it?

 

[JerryRM]

Because I don't like the SAFE Act, Sandy. I am a gun owner and have been since I was 14, when my uncle gave me a .410 shotgun, over my parents objections. But they quickly learned that people kill, guns are just a tool.

 

[Wuzznt Me]

Oh no, Wuzz. I understand. There's a time and place for everything - including hunting. When the natural order gets outta whack because predators have been too far reduced or invasive species take over, I understand it. I've seen deer starving in Cook County, Illinois because there was no hunting allowed and no predators available to keep them under control. I can't understand cruelty towards animals. That's where I draw the line. I only said "Whoa!" because I couldn't imagine going up to a gator and taking it out with a hachet! That would take some serious ... um ... confidence. Yeah, let's say "confidence".

Naw, that's not the right word, Raven. I think that "insanity" might be a better word.

Lolz. It's a learned skill. I'd post how to do it but you'd think I was lying. Let's just say you only get one chance at it. Do NOT miss.

 

[awsum140]

New York has the SAFE Act. (See NY SAFE Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) As I drive around the countryside, many residences have signs in their front yards opposing it.

I can't like that one either, Sandy. The "Safe Act" is yet another knee jerk, feel good, "see what I'm doing about gun violence" waste of time that our "esteemed" elected officials can point to when running for re-election. A hunting rifle is no different in functionality from an "assault" rifle. I can fire, even at my advanced age, 12 rounds from a revolver, six shot chamber, in under 8 seconds and have all the shots in in the "X" ring at 25 feet so, in my opinion, capacity restrictions on magazines are a waste of the paper they get written on. Here, in NJ, a muzzle brake is illegal because it makes the gun look "threatening" (I kid you not, that was the reasoning). A muzzle brake aids in accuracy, duhhhhh.

From what I have read about the Founders when they discussed the Second Amendment, it was meant to allow the common citizen to possess and CARRY firearms anywhere they went. Certainly, you wouldn't go to religious services sporting a bandolier and a rifle, but the intent is really quite plain to anyone that bothers to read their commentaries. To make things worse, despite what the media portrays, firearm deaths are down over the last twenty years. The exceptions being the places with the strictest gun control laws, like Chicago and NYC for example. It always amazes me that politicians don't want citizens to have guns while they are surrounded by people carrying full automatic weapons.

 

[Wuzznt Me]

I'm strapped as soon as I put on my pants in the morning and stay that way all day. Only place I'm not armed is at the P.O. I've been licensed since I was old enough and all I can say is I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6. An old man got caught carrying concealed without a license. When asked why he did it his reply was, "because I'd rather be caught with it than without it". I got made at Church one Sunday and was asked why I carried a gun. My reply, "because a cop is just too heavy".