Not going to get the info your looking for.... too many people just plain don't like it because it's a clone and going to great ****** to discredit this mod....
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Yea I agree with you on that but the spammer was Pro clone giving 5 star for every entry.... who knows perhaps that was just easier to click.
That Sux....I just looked at the "Results" page...I don't own this device as of yet, just looking for Data. Thats Childish as @#$#. Sorry bud- Dave
Looks like this thread has run it's course. Everyone jumping onto the IPV2 boxes this month. Well if anyone is interested in looking I purchased a cheap oscope off Ebay did some side by side tests with a clone and a true Evolv DNA 30. Probably the most interesting piece of information I believe I see is what appears to be voltage regulation on the clone in what I thought was supposed to be unregulated. Perhaps someone with more smarts than me can explain this. Spreadsheet with outputs and the signal traces can be seen below. I did the tests at .75, 1, 1.5, 2 & 2.7Ω because that's what my local electronic store had on hand. f you have problems viewing let me know.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B_Rcx0DeBPgGRWV3ckc3WFg2ZVE&usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B_Rcx0DeBPgGRWV3ckc3WFg2ZVE&usp=sharing
Hey all hope I can get a bit of help with this. I just picked up the clouper clone from a local b+m store. I'd was planning on purchasing one later this month but they had it and it was an impulse buy. I am a novice/intermediate user, rebuilding tanks and a kfl+ for use on a vamo. After reading some of the really bad things that could go on with this mod I'm a but worried about blowing my hand off or setting fire to the house. Right now I'm vaping in the 1.2 to 1.8 range with the intents on dropping down to the .8 to 1.0 range. The batteries I was sold to go with this are Sony vtc5 ( not sure of the amps or volts on it). Did I botch and go overboard on the battery's? If they are useable is there a range of resistance or wattage I should be careful on? I was so excited to take this on vacation with me tomorrow, but now my innate worrywart is kicking in. I had planned on charging it with a standard cell phone wall jack. Thoughts?
I have a vtc5 in my clouper and charge with my cell phone charger. I have nothing but good things to say about my clouper.
Yes the Cloupor's are fine, been using 2 for quite a while now, VTC4's and Purple Efest's. Mostly charge mine in my 4 bay charger though.
As long at the output from the charger is 500mah you should be good i think. My HTC and Iphone chargers i know are 500mah output
Vtc5s are 30amp batteries.
I'm pretty sure all 18650s are 4.2v at max charge.
You should be fine at .8ohms, but double check with an ohms law calc to be sure.
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Thank you gentlemen, I did a little more homework on the batteries that I got for them and I'm pretty confident they are fake sony VTC5's (based on this site How to spot a fake Sony VTC5 battery and Fake VTC5 Information - Imgur) I'm gonna take them all back to the brick and mortar tomorrow for a refund (hopefully). I'm in there regularly so hopefully they don't give me a hard time. Not sure if I'm gonna hold onto the mod or not. I think i need to stick with more forgiving devices for a bit longer.
Man that was really neat. May I ask for the link to the oscilloscope you bought. Thank you for all the effort you put forward....
Man that was really neat. May I ask for the link to the oscilloscope you bought. Thank you for all the effort you put forward....
It's just a cheap Hantek 6022be usb pc scope. They're a dime a dozen on ebay
Man that was really neat. May I ask for the link to the oscilloscope you bought. Thank you for all the effort you put forward....
I am surprised I haven't had folks jumping all over me about the possible Buck down circuitry that I refer to on the clone. That's kinda been a long desired function of the true DNA 30. I figured folks would be either shooting it down or providing other explanations for the signals I was seeing.
When I looked at your charts I just figured that was battery power less voltage loss. I have the clone and I don't see any bucking.
No that was the RMS of the signal. Take a look at the scope traces of the lower wattage signals in the 75 & 1 folder. 75 represents .75Ω, 1 represents 1Ω, 1.5 represents 1.5Ω etc... compare the trace in the "clone" folder to the ones in the "evolv" folder. There is a voltage spike on my clone on the leading edge of the signal that my multimeter displays much more similar to what the Evolv does but the scope shows this only for a split second of the overall signal.
I placed the cursor on the Top voltage so you can see the actual spike voltage compared to the RMS which is in the spreadsheet.
On a couple of the signals that appeared to be being regulated "Bucked Down" I saved two different files, 1 with SQ which implies Square Wave which shows the voltage between the bottom of the wave and the top of the overall wave. And the second with P2P which indicates Peak to Peak which shows the voltage from the bottom of the wave to the top of the spike at the beginning of the signal.
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My unit absolutely "bucks" according to inline meter and multimeter probes held against atomizer posts, just overall about a volt shy of what it says its doing. But consistently lowers voltage, lowest I measured on a .6 ohm dual was ~1.8 volts when dialed down to 7 watts (max of 3.5 volts with the same coil when dialed to 30 watts)
Well dang here I thought I was going to let the cat out of the bag with this potential news. I have not heard anyone state the clones had Buck circuitry before, and when I seen this on the scope I thought holy cow no wonder no vendors / manufacturers have released this info. I don't feel confident enough that I can actually state this as fact of having Buck regulation. There may be other factors that contribute to the signal I'm seeing that someone else with more knowledge can explain away. And although you see similar measurements on your volt meters whereas my "crappy" meter shows me the peak voltage of the spike it does kind add a bit of credence to the possibility. It would be nice to see an EE scope one of these clones out. By the way what maker / model / vendor did you purchase your from? And do you know which version it is?
Thanks for your time and effort on this! Good info.
I just picked up a V3 Cloupor earlier this week and have been loving it. I have noticed that it still does the lowering of the watts when it comes out of sleep sometimes. If that is the only thing that didn't get fixed on this version I will be happy.
That is interesting that it regulates down. Does your ohms reading flash when this behavior is occurring?
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No the clone I have has never blinked in any situation. The Evolv board does when expected, but it also has a steady DC signal at about 3.5 volts minimum not a square wave like the clone.
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