You also bought a PV from an established company whose mods have been used and refined over time. These have been in the hands of experienced vapers and have many hardcore fans. IcaBod's original claims as to the faults of VV mods shows he has no real experience behind him and is making things up as he goes along. That folks accept what he says and ignore comments by long established and respected vets like Scottbee and Nuck would make PT Barnum proud.
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Ok, taking for granted that amperage is not adjustable, that leaves you with 3 variables; voltage, resistance, build of atty/carto.
I am going to reference cartos because I don't use atties. ( I seem to be sensitive to a metallic taste if I use an atty or even a metal drip tip)
If I stick to one type of carto, and the device automatically senses the resistance ( we all know you can get wide variances in ohm's even if you use the same type of carto every time ), and automatically adjust the voltage to give me a target wattage for that particular carto ( even when I am swapping out 3 or 4 diff cartos for flavors ) every time I hit the button, then that gives me ( an average user who doesn't have the equipment or the knowledge to test resistance or voltage under load for every diff carto I use ) a consistent vape. At least for the hdw side of things. That leaves one variable, the juice. Now I can experiment with the juice vg/pg/flavor mix ratios knowing that I am getting a consistent temp for all my cartos.
Somebody mentioned that they use one atty for six months so they can adjust voltage for the sweet spot on that atty with no problem and a lot cheaper. I'll concede to that argument, of course, when they are ready for a new atty they will have to fiddle with the voltage again; and, if I'm not mistaken, atties tend to change performance after they are broken in and toward the end of their life, so you'd still be fiddling with the voltage a little.
As an average user I am always getting frustrated by finding a good vaping solution just to have the new batty or carto vape differently than the previous ones, even though they were the same brand and model. It seems to me that the Darwin eliminates all these problems, and as I stated earlier in this thread, if the Darwin's lifetime holds true to what was stated earlier, then the price is comparable to using Ego batts while the performance is way above and beyond.
Of course all this is just speculation until the Darwin starts to sell and can prove its claims, I for one hope that it does.
I am going to reference cartos because I don't use atties. ( I seem to be sensitive to a metallic taste if I use an atty or even a metal drip tip)
If I stick to one type of carto, and the device automatically senses the resistance ( we all know you can get wide variances in ohm's even if you use the same type of carto every time ), and automatically adjust the voltage to give me a target wattage for that particular carto ( even when I am swapping out 3 or 4 diff cartos for flavors ) every time I hit the button, then that gives me ( an average user who doesn't have the equipment or the knowledge to test resistance or voltage under load for every diff carto I use ) a consistent vape. At least for the hdw side of things. That leaves one variable, the juice. Now I can experiment with the juice vg/pg/flavor mix ratios knowing that I am getting a consistent temp for all my cartos.
Somebody mentioned that they use one atty for six months so they can adjust voltage for the sweet spot on that atty with no problem and a lot cheaper. I'll concede to that argument, of course, when they are ready for a new atty they will have to fiddle with the voltage again; and, if I'm not mistaken, atties tend to change performance after they are broken in and toward the end of their life, so you'd still be fiddling with the voltage a little.
As an average user I am always getting frustrated by finding a good vaping solution just to have the new batty or carto vape differently than the previous ones, even though they were the same brand and model. It seems to me that the Darwin eliminates all these problems, and as I stated earlier in this thread, if the Darwin's lifetime holds true to what was stated earlier, then the price is comparable to using Ego batts while the performance is way above and beyond.
Of course all this is just speculation until the Darwin starts to sell and can prove its claims, I for one hope that it does.
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I checked out there site this morning and it is up, but the Darwin still is not for sale
As I was looking through the pictures, I do have a concern. On the picture with the atty folded down next to the body, it shows the atty resting on the button. Any flex in the pivoting mechanism or atty connection could potentially activate the button. And as I prefer the 801 over the 510, this would only aggravate the issue. If I recall correctly, it was stated earlier, when the release pictures were posted, that the button in those pictures were not what the final product would have. The product in the pictures on their website look very similar to those posted here previously. I'm hoping that the actually released product will have this addressed.
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As I was looking through the pictures, I do have a concern. On the picture with the atty folded down next to the body, it shows the atty resting on the button. Any flex in the pivoting mechanism or atty connection could potentially activate the button. And as I prefer the 801 over the 510, this would only aggravate the issue. If I recall correctly, it was stated earlier, when the release pictures were posted, that the button in those pictures were not what the final product would have. The product in the pictures on their website look very similar to those posted here previously. I'm hoping that the actually released product will have this addressed.
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As the old saying goes...... Ohms Law, it's not just a good idea, it's the LAW.
Given a fixed resistance, I can regulate the voltage OR I can regulate the current (amps)..... I can't independently regulate both.
Given a fixed resistance, I can regulate the voltage OR I can regulate the current (amps)..... I can't independently regulate both.
I checked out there site this morning and it is up, but the Darwin still is not for sale
As I was looking through the pictures, I do have a concern. On the picture with the atty folded down next to the body, it shows the atty resting on the button. Any flex in the pivoting mechanism or atty connection could potentially activate the button. And as I prefer the 801 over the 510, this would only aggravate the issue. If I recall correctly, it was stated earlier, when the release pictures were posted, that the button in those pictures were not what the final product would have. The product in the pictures on their website look very similar to those posted here previously. I'm hoping that the actually released product will have this addressed.
Al
The pic on the site doesn't show the button that will be on the production model. But since they had to put a pic of the unit on the site, they went with what they currently have.
Added: Also, lowering the atty arm shuts off the unit, so that there wouldn't need to be any worries of accidentally pushing the button.
Why would anyone want this when you could have an EverCool VV device that doubles or triples your battery life?
Because they aren't even slightly similar. Just because it is a VV device doesn't mean it belongs in the same category. Read the specs on the Darwin and the Evercool. Other than varying voltage (which is only a small part of what Darwin does) they aren't remotely doing the same thing. Fact check, aisle 1!
Yeah? And how is the battery life on this compared to an EverCool IC system? I prefer battery life and VV way beyond VW any day.
Why would anyone who apparently likes plastic, garage made box mods even come here and ask such a question? Not intending to be rude but I don't understand your need to post this here. Perhaps there is more to vaping then battery life eh?
You still don't get it.
Sure, using TWO 18650's provides quite an impressive battery life, but that's hardly original or revolutionary. Besides, you still don't understand VV or what the Darwin actually does. You might want to stick to the sand-box, the grown-ups are having a conversation here.
BTW - BETA units were getting 13+ hours to a charge of constant vaping. Since I don't vape when I sleep, that's plenty for me.
You can rep the evercool all you want, but it pales in comparison to what the darwin is going to deliver as far device adaptability per atty/carto variance. I just really don't get your post.
You don't vape when you sleep? I have to have a full 5ml bottle and a fresh 17670 battery by the bed when I go out for the night.
Seriously though, while 13 hours sounds great, Most people are awake at least 16 hours at a time, if not more. While all of that may not be vaping time, someone working a double shift or more could run into problems, especially when you factor in that you can't take spare batteries with you, only spare PV's. I normally work shifts around 12-14 hours, but have been known to work up to 28 hours straight, and chain smoked towards the tail end of that resulting in a 5 pack of smokes day. The Darwin would leave me high and dry, while a mod with removable batteries would provide me the ability to simply take a spare battery or two to work with me and not have to worry. While I realize someone could always take a spare PV, I'm assuming that the new mods like the ProVari and Darwin are going to be good enough that you simply won't get satisfaction going back to a standard type PV, and the price tag of the Darwin is a bit too high to justify buying mulitples.
I find all this comparing (puffing up) of mods somewhat humorous All those that (probably) don't have any intention of buying a Darwin can find all manner of details that are just so wrong with it. Of course it's not going to be as fine as your favorite vape, no matter what your favorite is. If you admit that there is something better then you end up feeling deficient and no one wants that, right? My biggest problem with the Darwin is t doesn't look like a real cigarette (not really of course). So you guys that haven't tried it, are't going to try it, are satisfied with your current vape, you guys just go on arguing. Hey, it's entertaining.
Me, I'll stick with the cheapo mods 'cause the Darwin is priced out of my range. But it sure looks nice, and it ain't no plastic box. Think I could get by calling these "mini-Darwins".
All those that (probably) don't have any intention of buying a Darwin can find all manner of details that are just so wrong with it. Of course it's not going to be as fine as your favorite vape, no matter what your favorite is. If you admit that there is something better then you end up feeling deficient and no one wants that, right? My biggest problem with the Darwin is t doesn't look like a real cigarette (not really of course). So you guys that haven't tried it, are't going to try it, are satisfied with your current vape, you guys just go on arguing. Hey, it's entertaining. Me, I'll stick with the cheapo mods 'cause the Darwin is priced out of my range. But it sure looks nice, and it ain't no plastic box. Think I could get by calling these "mini-Darwins".
Is that a crock pot in the background? Pretty sweet paint job for a crock pot if it is. Nevermind lol. Now that is how a proper box mod with a beast of a battery is done. You could knock a guy out with one of those.
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No need for an extra set of batteries. Plug it into any USB outlet. They have adapters that will plug directly into a wall socket or a car's cigarette lighter, no need for a PC even. And if that's still not an option, get one of the portable cell phone chargers like Newegg.com - Energizer Portable Charger for Smart Phones and More! or ZAGG | ZAGGsparq 2.0 | iPhone Charger | iPad® Charger | Portable Battery Charger. Heck, you can even take the case of the EverCool, without any of the vaping stuff added, cuz that is basically what it is, a portable charger.
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Folks please stop defending Darwin. The mbr stated it does not meet his needs because of "his" schedule and he doesn't want to carry a bunch of stuff around. In "his" particular case an 18650 batt would meet "his" needs. Any one thought that perhaps he does not have access to a USB power supply?... and he still needs to carry a back up if he was to charge it???
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