Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

[zoiDman]

I love that Representatives that hide behind State/District contact only, Also have FB accounts.

Ohio - Sherrod Brown:

Please take the time to Explain to a 62yr old man that Stopped Smoking due to Vapor Products NOT designed, owned or promoted by BT and is now 4yr's Combustible tobacco Free. How you get the Idea BT is Behind vaping. Those Pigs are attempting to Buy their way into an Industry Designed to Give the most Chronic Smokers a way to become free of the Grip of Combustible tobacco(America's # 1 Killer) Why is it YOU and the Democratic Party are Choosing Financial Gains(MSA) and State TAXES over Human Lives and Health Risk Reduction? (UK) Release - a 95%safer Alternative for SMOKERS. OMG what is your Excuse for condemning people to an early Death over Freely available alternatives? This is not the time for Political Party lines. This is a time to take Human Lives into consideration. Please show you have respect for right to life of ALL Americans.

I got aggravated

Damn... Lots like your Cat likes the CAPs Lock key Also. Or perhaps its an Adaptive Behavior trait?

Anyway - Nice FB post crxess.

 

[beckdg]

Yeah, the taxes are only a portion of it. As Kent says, control is another. There's also the revolving door of business and regulation that you're talking about. It's all a bit crushing when you think about it.

Well...

I've washed my hands before.

And I'll tell you what...

It's mighty difficult if one doesn't help the other.

Impossible to do properly.

Tapatyped

 

[The Ocelot]

You and I have been around the block a few times together, I'm almost fluent in zoidspeak

I miss his bubble brain.

 

[The Ocelot]

I just read that WISN radio host Vicki McKenna had Paul Ryan on her show. I hope she vaped all the way through it.

 

[crxess]

Not an 'ultimate list' either.

letter to FDA to quickly release the deeming:

The list of Senators also signing the letter include: Senators Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), Barbara Boxer (D-CA), Sherrod Brown (D-OH), Richard J. Durbin (D-IL), Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), Al Franken (D-MN), Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY), Patrick Leahy (D-VT), Edward J. Markey (D-MA), Jeff Merkley (D-OR), Jack Reed (D-RI), Brian Schatz (D-HI), Charles Schumer (D-NY), Tom Udall (D-NM), Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI).

Letter to OMB to finalize rule:

Today, U.S. Senators Dick Durbin (D-IL), Jeff Merkley (D-OR), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), Charles E. Schumer (D-NY), Patty Murray (D-WA), Barbara Boxer (D-CA), Edward J. Markey (D-MA), Sherrod Brown (D-OH), Jack Reed (D-RI), Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), pressed the White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) to complete its review of a long-overdue rule to regulate e-cigarettes and other forms of tobacco as quickly as possible.

Approp. committee Cole/Bishop vote:

Charles W. Dent, R-Pennsylvania - no

Democrats

• Nita M. Lowey, New York -no
• Marcy Kaptur, Ohio -no
• Peter J. Visclosky, Indiana -no
• José E. Serrano, New York -no
• Rosa L. DeLauro, Connecticut -no
• David E. Price, North Carolina -no
• Lucille Roybal-Allard, California -no
• Sam Farr, California -no
• Barbara Lee, California -no
• Michael M. Honda, California -no
• Betty McCollum, Minnesota -no
• Steve Israel, New York -no
• Tim Ryan, Ohio -no
• C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger, Maryland -no
• Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Florida -no
• Chellie Pingree, Maine -no
• Mike Quigley, Illinois -no
• Derek Kilmer, Washington -no

My FF Post has now gone to All of Dem

 

[crxess]

America's #2 killer.

Behind food.



Tapatyped

Shhhhh....................I'm working a Government determined scheme here.

 

[zoiDman]

I miss his bubble brain.

 

[The Ocelot]

one white duck on your wall...

 

[YoursTruli]

you need your bubble brain back

 

[crxess]

Why are not more republicans signed on to support 2058 if they really do?

Actually 54 Supporters of a Bill that has been sitting in Committee and Entered with only 3(?) is an excellent improvement. Non the less, Committee has to weigh the value of time spent on any Bill. Unfortunately this one is more of a Sentence than a Bill.
While I have voiced my support for HR2058, I now spend my time trying to make/keep people aware of the importance of Cole-Bishop Amendment.

An Amendment Included in a necessary Budget bill Trumps a Bill Sitting stagnant with a 4% optimism.

 

[LoriP1702]

I miss the bubble brain too.

 

[crxess]

Damn... Lots like your Cat likes the CAPs Lock key Also. Or perhaps its an Adaptive Behavior trait?

Anyway - Nice FB post crxess.

Cat?.............Have you ever seen what happens when a Golden Retriever gets Curious

and Thank you

 

[zoiDman]

one white duck on your wall...

Yeah... "Isn't it just, too Damn Real?"

Those were Good Times.

 

[lauragal]

Don't forget food...

The biggest killer in the world.

The industry of which is also supported by the big 3 you mention...

Tapatyped

Absolutely agree.

 

[kross8]

Not an 'ultimate list' either.

letter to FDA to quickly release the deeming:

The list of Senators also signing the letter include: Senators Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), Barbara Boxer (D-CA), Sherrod Brown (D-OH), Richard J. Durbin (D-IL), Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), Al Franken (D-MN), Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY), Patrick Leahy (D-VT), Edward J. Markey (D-MA), Jeff Merkley (D-OR), Jack Reed (D-RI), Brian Schatz (D-HI), Charles Schumer (D-NY), Tom Udall (D-NM), Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI).

Letter to OMB to finalize rule:

Today, U.S. Senators Dick Durbin (D-IL), Jeff Merkley (D-OR), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), Charles E. Schumer (D-NY), Patty Murray (D-WA), Barbara Boxer (D-CA), Edward J. Markey (D-MA), Sherrod Brown (D-OH), Jack Reed (D-RI), Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), pressed the White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) to complete its review of a long-overdue rule to regulate e-cigarettes and other forms of tobacco as quickly as possible.

Approp. committee Cole/Bishop vote:

Charles W. Dent, R-Pennsylvania - no

Democrats

• Nita M. Lowey, New York -no
• Marcy Kaptur, Ohio -no
• Peter J. Visclosky, Indiana -no
• José E. Serrano, New York -no
• Rosa L. DeLauro, Connecticut -no
• David E. Price, North Carolina -no
• Lucille Roybal-Allard, California -no
• Sam Farr, California -no
• Barbara Lee, California -no
• Michael M. Honda, California -no
• Betty McCollum, Minnesota -no
• Steve Israel, New York -no
• Tim Ryan, Ohio -no
• C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger, Maryland -no
• Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Florida -no
• Chellie Pingree, Maine -no
• Mike Quigley, Illinois -no
• Derek Kilmer, Washington -no

everytime someone dies of lung cancer we should gather at one of the people listed above home,, with signs.. ie,, Mary Smith died of cancer because Derek Kilmer wouldnt let her switch to vaping'

 

[Eskie]

Actually 54 Supporters of a Bill that has been sitting in Committee and Entered with only 3(?) is an excellent improvement. Non the less, Committee has to weigh the value of time spent on any Bill. Unfortunately this one is more of a Sentence than a Bill.
While I have voiced my support for HR2058, I now spend my time trying to make/keep people aware of the importance of Cole-Bishop Amendment.

The thing I like in the Cole Bishop amendment which is not present in 2058 is the requirement for the FDA to spell out what requirements must be met for approval. As it stands now, even if 2058 passes and keeps everything on the market as of 2016, the current Deeming provides no real guidance on how new approvals will be decided and granted. You could spend $2 million dollars completing a PMTA only to have it denied with some vague suggestion on how much more crap you have to provide for reconsideration. Under Cole-Bishop, those standards will be known in advance of the 2018 deadline.

The other advantage to that disclosure prior to the 2018 deadline is the opportunity to challenge the basis of those requirements if they onerous, arbitrary, and capricious. If they are so onerous as to being impossible to meet, there is certainly a basis for legal action, as the Tobacco Act does not empower the FDA to outright ban tobacco products. In addition, knowledge of the requirements for approval will also allow a vendor/manufacturer to better estimate the actual cost of completing the application, and not simply rely on the "predicted expense" the FDA calculated. Under the current regulation, even if 2058 pushes the grandfather date to 2016, you would still have to literally complete your application blind, hoping you hit all the checks the FDA will require for approval (assuming there are any).

 

[zoiDman]

you need your bubble brain back

Yeah... I have been thinking about that Lately.

Sometimes there comes a Time when things Are what they Are. For good, Bad, or indifference. And it is Time to Move On.

 

[nicnik]

Actually 29 out of 30 Republicans on the Appropriations committee. 2 out of the 20 Dems.

And 54 out of 246 Republican House representatives.

 

[The Ocelot]

big tobacco is wasting their time aiming for the American customer,,,,,,,,they should aim all of their energy to China/region.............far more people to accept smoking as a lifestyle

BT in making tons of money internationally. Have you seen John Oliver's story on tobacco? Copy and paste the link below into your browser. (Just copy the link, not the asterisks.)

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UsHHOCH4q8 *

 

[kross8]

BT in making tons of money internationally. Have you seen John Oliver's story on tobacco? Copy and paste the link below into your browser. (Just copy the link, not the asterisks.)

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UsHHOCH4q8 *

oh yes,, i am quite away of BT doing well around the world...and the world is growing faster than america,,,,,,bt needs to chase them over us. my point is they are wasting their time with americans and american politicians.