Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

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    This just in: The Nicopure (Halo) lawsuit and the Right to be Smokefree lawsuit have been merged into one case. The following tweet just showed up in my timeline.



    Brittani Cushman ‏@BrittaniCushman
    D.C. Circuit Judge Amy Berman Jackson issued order to consolidate Nicopure and Right to Be Smoke-Free cases #ecigs #deeming

    I wondered how long it would take for this to begin. I always felt like all of the groups should have gotten together and filed one big lawsuit. Pooled their resources and all that.
     
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    zoiDman

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    Is that good or bad?

    Hard to Say.

    I would have Much Rather seen Separate actions. Because there is that old say'n that "Only Person can Steer a Boat at One Time."

    And it raises the Possibility for Infighting and Conflicts of what course to take.
     

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    Looks to be at the discretion of the court.

    NICOPURE LABS, LLC v. FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION et al (1:16-cv-00878), District Of Columbia District Court

    MINUTE ORDER. Two cases filed in this Court, Right to be Smoke-Free Coalition v. FDA, No. 16-cv-1210, and Nicopure Labs, LLC v. FDA, No. 16-cv-878, challenge the FDA's final rule "Deeming tobacco Products to Be Subject to the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, as Amended by the Family Smoking Prevention and tobacco Control Act; Restrictions on the Sale and Distribution of tobacco Products and Required Warning Statements for Tobacco Products," No. FDA-2014-N-0189, 81 Fed. Reg. 28,973 (May 10, 2016). While Right to Be Smoke-Free brings some new claims, both cases allege that the Deeming Rule is arbitrary and capricious in violation of the Administrative Procedure Act, 5 U.S.C. § 500 et. seq., and both claim that the regulation unlawfully infringes upon plaintiffs' First Amendment rights. In light of the common questions of law and fact in these two cases, the Court believes that Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 42(a) is applicable. Any party who objects to consolidation under Rule 42(a)(2) or any other form of joint treatment under Rule 42(a)(1) must notify the Court by June 22, 2016, and provide the reasons for its objection. If any party wishes to propose a procedure or revised schedule for the Court's consideration, the proposal must be submitted by the same date. SO ORDERED. Signed by Judge Amy Berman Jackson on 6/21/2016. (lcabj3)
     

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    As a side thought it just occurred to me This is why they are laying off the raw
    materials for now. They were all on the market back then and are virtually unchanged
    to this day. This very well might prevent them from doing anything about them.
    Thoughts?
    :2c:
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    I believe people have looked for nicotine in VG or PG solution prior to 07 and not been able to find it. Obviously nic was available but maybe not in PG. That might give the FDA enough of a hook to deny it.
     

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    I wonder if the merge will be a negative. I keep thinking, in this case, maybe having to many irons in the fire would be a good thing. Keep the enemy camp swamped in litigation. One suit gets ruled on then another takes it's place. It just seems like the more "chances" we have the better.
     

    crxess

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    I wonder if the merge will be a negative. I keep thinking, in this case, maybe having to many irons in the fire would be a good thing. Keep the enemy camp swamped in litigation. One suit gets ruled on then another takes it's place. It just seems like the more "chances" we have the better.
    Doesn't matter, as any Judgement would be reflected in any following cases. Swamp dries up quick. :cool:

    I wounder if this will reduce overall legal fees:thumb:

    I already like her, Judge Amy Berman Jackson:
    Judge rejects Obama's executive privilege claim over Fast and Furious records
     

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    Consolidation was bound to happen. I don't believe it's a bad thing. However, this first legal decision will set a precedent that may and will be used as a standard in subsequent cases.

    They better get this one right.

    Fingers crossed.
     

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    As a side thought it just occurred to me This is why they are laying off the raw
    materials for now. They were all on the market back then and are virtually unchanged
    to this day. This very well might prevent them from doing anything about them.
    Thoughts?
    :2c:
    Regards
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    I'm not sure they can really do much about the raw materials, meant for manufacturing, at all. It doesn't really matter though, once you sell it directly to a consumer, it becomes a finished tobacco product.

    My concern is, are any of the bulk nic sellers planning to do any of the preliminary work, i.e. registering, etc. in order to keep selling their products for the next two years?
     

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    Consolidation was bound to happen. I don't believe it's a bad thing. However, this first legal decision will set a precedent that may and will be used as a standard in subsequent cases.

    They better get this one right.

    Fingers crossed.

    Not to Disagree with you in Any Way Kat.

    But I think No Matter who is the Winner or who is the Looser, that the Decision will be Appealed.
     

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    Consolidation was bound to happen. I don't believe it's a bad thing. However, this first legal decision will set a precedent that may and will be used as a standard in subsequent cases.

    They better get this one right.

    Fingers crossed.
    That's the reason I was looking forward to consolidation.

    I sort of trusted Halo's intentions and their legal team.
    And when they got out in front of this I was not as worried as I might have been.

    But I'm a lot less worried now.
    (wonders what's up with the Lost Arts lawsuit these days)
     

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