Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

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BT did just win a court battle, in which the judge decided that changing the label does not constitute a NEW product. It's a start.

I'm no longer a fan of smoking, but the fsptca isn't really designed to do what they say it does. It does keep cigarettes from getting worse, for the most part, but also keeps them from getting any better, or at least disincentivizes making them better.
Forcing litigation over a label change is the kind of thing you'd expect to see in the writings of Aldous Huxley. Everything must be controlled.
 

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A bit more info on the study at Reason mag - Jacob Sullum today:

Experiment Confirms Lifesaving Potential of E-Cigarettes

"They are safer," the lead author, Maciej Goniewicz, a toxicologist at the Roswell Park Cancer Institute, told Buffalo Business First. "It's the first time we have very strong evidence that we will be able now to give [smokers] that the answer is, yes, this you should consider a transition, a substitute for your tobacco cigarette that will save your life."

Based on chemical analyses of e-cigarette vapor, other researchers have estimated that switching from smoking to vaping reduces health risks by at least 95 percent.

 

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Are any you legally inclined types also "verified" members?

If so I started a thread in the "Discussion" group on the verified side of the fence and would appreciate any input.
Never heard of it. Link please? Is it like the dark side? ;)
I thought getting verified was just for buying stuff in the classifieds.
 

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Never heard of it. Link please? Is it like the dark side? ;)
I thought getting verified was just for buying stuff in the classifieds.
I believe he means the Co-ops planning and discussion section, which you can only access if you've been verified as it's part of the Buying and Selling forum. I'm not linking because I'm not sure if that's okay, but the thread title is "Co-ops post deeming?"
 

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I believe he means the Co-ops planning and discussion section, which you can only access if you've been verified as it's part of the Buying and Selling forum. I'm not linking because I'm not sure if that's okay, but the thread title is "Co-ops post deeming?"
Ahh, thanks!
 

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I have been wanting to see that study, in full, and nobody has it in full

I "believe" it may have been done in another country and there were reasons it didn't get published for a while. That is only a guess on my part, but I don't think it was some kind of "conspiracy theory" reason, to be honest.
It's available here, but behind a pay wall

Exposure to Nicotine and Selected Toxicants in Cigarette Smokers Who Switched to Electronic Cigarettes: A Longitudinal Within-Subjects Observational Study

Here's a short youtube clip from the lead author :

 

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Never heard of it. Link please? Is it like the dark side? ;)
I thought getting verified was just for buying stuff in the classifieds.
You found it, that other "C" word is frowned upon in the open forums.
 

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Oops, do I need to edit my post? I was pretty sure I couldn't link, but is there something else I shouldn't be posting?
Not sure to be honest, since this isnt an actual event, it may be "no harm - no foul". I know I could never mention actual events in the open forums.
 

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For the FDA, and others...

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I believe he means the Co-ops planning and discussion section, which you can only access if you've been verified as it's part of the Buying and Selling forum. I'm not linking because I'm not sure if that's okay, but the thread title is "Co-ops post deeming?"

Nope, can't link anything in that area.

Not sure to be honest, since this isnt an actual event, it may be "no harm - no foul". I know I could never mention actual events in the open forums.

Not sure myself so best to not do it again :) :lol:
 

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If Hillary is really against hand guns why dosen't she just turn it over to the FDA. Imagine needing approvals on every bullet.

I'm happy the FDA is going to ban nic because I'm going to start a nic cartel and get filthy rich, anybody want to sign up?
 

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If Hillary is really against hand guns why dosen't she just turn it over to the FDA. Imagine needing approvals on every bullet.

I'm happy the FDA is going to ban nic because I'm going to start a nic cartel and get filthy rich, anybody want to sign up?
Us Canadians are going to make alcohol running during your prohibition look like small potatoes. I'll be muleing litres of NIC across the border with the wife and kids on our way to Disney World! :banana:
 

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Us Canadians are going to make alcohol running during your prohibition look like small potatoes. I'll be muleing litres of NIC across the border with the wife and kids on our way to Disney World! :banana:

I'm only 2 hours away from there. If needed..... :laugh:

I'm about an hour from the Canadian border. Looks like the north and the south ends are covered, we need some stops along the railroad. Then, westward expansion! :D
 

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