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I have now. Thanks Opinionated-- I think. That Schumer is really something. I hate to say it, but lately every time I see a politician I think, "Time for that person to die." I don't think of DOING anything to make it happen, but my auto-gag reflex is back. I mean, I don't mean to wish ill of anyone, but there is just SO MUCH ABOUT POLITICANS that deserves ill-will at the moment.

I really think our best bet is a lottery with no special interest groups or lobbyists. Everyone would have to care, because they'd be inflicting their laws on themselves once they return to their non-political job, and then they have to live with the consequences. NO SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS either, politicians are not known for their speaking abilities, or their abilities to adhere to fiscal responsibility, logic, or sanity. I don't expect a lottery to change that (much) it just would be a little harder to get, you know, entrenched. Also, ALL the mentally ill, addicted, and impaired are INCLUDED in the lottery, you know, we have to get along with these people in Real Life.

I'd go down the road of wealth distribution, I really would, except that.... That's kind of behaving Just Like Politicians Today, so I'm against it. :)

Anna


You scare me a little dear. .

Any way, it is only through truth and knowledge that we fight ignorance and fear.

Sometimes, Ignorance wins, other times, the truth.

We alone are weak, we together as one are strong - and our voice louder.
 

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"Schumer said that juul may be even more dangerous than conventional smoking because one “pod” promises the amount of nicotine equal to an entire pack of conventional cigarettes.":confused:

Most don't remember the armor piercing bullet that wasn't.

Schumer is a practiced hand (cad). Your enemy today is your most favored advocate and ally (once re-elected).

Good luck. :)
 

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Opinionated, I wish death on a lot of people, but only when I'm sick. It will pass, LOL. I don't really mean it, and I do stay focused on writing my reps, but NOT when I'm sick. I wait until I am in a mood of Love and Delight. I really, really mean no harm to any politician.

I do think a lottery might replace football though. Entertaining, and it's SUPPOSED to be politicized, it's kind of a win really. Though I do have to say some of our pols are almost as entertaining as a bunch of General Citizens might be.

But again, when I'm sick, if I get hateful, it passes. For almost every politician, LOL.

Anna
 

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Chuck Schumer said:
...demands the FDA smoke out dangerous e-cigs and their mystery chemicals...

:lol::lol::lol::lol:
R O F L

They are only a mystery to YOU Chuck.

Chuck Schumer said:
...Juul may be even more dangerous than conventional smoking because one “pod” promises the amount of nicotine equal to an entire pack of conventional cigarettes....

Any normal sane person would thus assume that 1 pod would last as long as 1 pack. Only an insane person would take that to mean people will vape a whole pod in one sitting, thus being like they smoked a whole pack.

Chuck Schumer said:
...Schumer said that the FDA’s delay means that flavored e-cigarettes can remain on the market until at least 2022....

Flavored alcohol can remain on the market indefinitely despite the fact it harms more kids and teens than even cigarettes?!?!? Tell me again, just how much money New York is making off the back of Big Tobacco both from tobacco taxes as well as the Tobacco Settlement? Yeah no conflict of interest here or anything.

I'm done, I can't read any more babbling by this buffoon. Even if someone were to give him a clue he would just lose it and still be clueless.
 

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:lol::lol::lol::lol:
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They are only a mystery to YOU Chuck.



Any normal sane person would thus assume that 1 pod would last as long as 1 pack. Only an insane person would take that to mean people will vape a whole pod in one sitting, thus being like they smoked a whole pack.



Flavored alcohol can remain on the market indefinitely despite the fact it harms more kids and teens than even cigarettes?!?!? Tell me again, just how much money New York is making off the back of Big Tobacco both from tobacco taxes as well as the Tobacco Settlement? Yeah no conflict of interest here or anything.

I'm done, I can't read any more babbling by this buffoon. Even if someone were to give him a clue he would just lose it and still be clueless.

What I find hilarious, is that they are always on about the dangers of e cigarettes and never look at the facts surrounding shisha..

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...QCrAQFggjMAE&usg=AOvVaw170lkAIPUOA2YPxD_qcUpi

One 45-60 minute session smoking shisha is equivalent to a pack of cigarettes plus it comes in the most lovely flavors. . Yet, no one says boo about shisha bars in this country
 

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What I find hilarious, is that they are always on about the dangers of e cigarettes and never look at the facts surrounding shisha..

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.health.umd.edu/sites/default/files/Hookah%20Brochure-%20Final_0.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjhnuCi1_rWAhXh7IMKHYvQCrAQFggjMAE&usg=AOvVaw170lkAIPUOA2YPxD_qcUpi

One 45-60 minute session smoking shisha is equivalent to a pack of cigarettes plus it comes in the most lovely flavors. . Yet, no one says boo about shisha bars in this country

Shisha bars (of which I knew nothing) must contribute to the correct politicians, not that such sums would ever influence a "public servant"..
 

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That's where Chuck S. takes his dates.... a shisha bar.

I always thought they were ignored because they were an Indian/middle eastern thing, and no sane politician wants to touch that with a five hundred foot pole, but I could be entirely wrong on that, since I always thought that hookahs were the Most Disgusting Thing Ever and not worthy of smoking. I'm not kidding, were I alone with a bunch of loaded hookahs in the whole world, I would be highly unlikely to smoke that thing.

That might be the best quitting smoking method ever-- the hookah, the Thing So Disgusting you Literally Can't Smoke it. It only works if you remove all other nicotine and tobacco delivery methods. Maybe that's why they are being ignored, the Pols can point at them and go, "You said you wanted harm reduction-- here it is!"

Don't mind me, but yes, I do partially believe SOME of this.

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That's where Chuck S. takes his dates.... a shisha bar.

I always thought they were ignored because they were an Indian/middle eastern thing, and no sane politician wants to touch that with a five hundred foot pole, but I could be entirely wrong on that, since I always thought that hookahs were the Most Disgusting Thing Ever and not worthy of smoking. I'm not kidding, were I alone with a bunch of loaded hookahs in the whole world, I would be highly unlikely to smoke that thing.

That might be the best quitting smoking method ever-- the hookah, the Thing So Disgusting you Literally Can't Smoke it. It only works if you remove all other nicotine and tobacco delivery methods. Maybe that's why they are being ignored, the Pols can point at them and go, "You said you wanted harm reduction-- here it is!"

Don't mind me, but yes, I do partially believe SOME of this.

Anna


Hahaha... it's not disgusting - and the fact you know what it is goes to the fact it's not just a middle eastern or Indian thing anymore. Modern day hippies (whom often call themselves progressives) frequently attend these bars as well.

Which might go to @CMD-Ky 's point.. protected classes and likely dem voters is likely the reason as to why they are left alone.

But it's literally the most unhealthy form of smoking there is..which just further proves it's not our health they care about.
 
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Modern day hippies (whom often call themselves progressives) frequently attend these bars as well.
Old timer hippies used to love Hookahs as well, although I dont think I ever heard of "shisha" back then.
 

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Old timer hippies used to love Hookahs as well, although I dont think I ever heard of "shisha" back then.

It depends where a person is from what they will call it. . Shisha just means glass and is technically referring to a part of the pipe which is smoked from, but in slang just came to mean the whole of smoking tobacco from a pipe.
 

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It depends where a person is from what they will call it. . Shisha just means glass and is technically referring to a part of the pipe which is smoked from, but in slang just came to mean the whole of smoking tobacco from a pipe.
Ohhhh, tobacco, well that explains why I never knew the term back then..... :lol:
 
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I've never been to a shisha bar in the US. But, when I was living in London a few years ago, there were a bunch in middle eastern neighborhoods, and they were partly outside on sidewalk tables.
I often walked by on the way to whatever. Gotta say, the aroma was wonderful. Not at all like cigs or cigars or "western" pipe tobacco. It was a fruity fragrance. I shoulda tried it.
 

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I've never been to a shisha bar in the US. But, when I was living in London a few years ago, there were a bunch in middle eastern neighborhoods, and they were partly outside on sidewalk tables.
I often walked by on the way to whatever. Gotta say, the aroma was wonderful. Not at all like cigs or cigars or "western" pipe tobacco. It was a fruity fragrance. I shoulda tried it.

The tobacco is soaked in molasses or honey and is infused with fruit or other flavors, like Apple or cherry or or or etc. it's much better tasting than western tobacco. . Probably deceptively so as it's truly the equivalent of smoking an entire pack of cigarettes in one sitting.
 
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I've "shisha'd" (hookah in restaurants, clubs, hookah bars). Never again.

Back to Mr. Chuckie's rant for a moment? This stood out as abstolute entertainment...

“To know that New York kids are much more likely to be using these new-age e-cig devices, like Juul, is not only concerning, but it could be dangerous,” Schumer said. “Up until now, the FDA was on track to reign in e-cigs and regulate them like any other tobacco product, but this recent delay, coupled with the new numbers showing a rise in the use of gadgets like Juul, which can fool teachers and be brought to school, demands the FDA smoke out dangerous e-cigs and their mystery chemicals before more New York kids get hooked.”

Perhaps Mr. Schum might wish to try Shakespeare?

By the way, ECF'ers........ can I use my Juul in place of a USB flash drive? :facepalm:


Oh le sigh. I think I'll go smoke out my dangerous gadget with it's 4 mystery chemicals whilst listening to Enya.

It's only (a matter of) time.
 

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