Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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Protect the children... Let the f'in parents do that! The government is telling parents that they're too stupid to watch there kids so the wonderful government has to it for them.Hey, leave my energy drinks alone!!!
I am well past ...... at having my personal liberties as an adult continually encroached upon "for the children".
Big Gubmint is the worst "parent" imaginable.
And on the subject of petitions--just got another response from the White House. WOOT!
Following up on your petition on the tobacco regulations:
A few months back, we sent an initial response to a petition you signed on the tobacco deeming regulations. At the time, the rule in question was still under interagency review. But now, there's more to say.
Last week, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration finalized a rule extending its authority to all tobacco products, including e-cigarettes, cigars, hookah tobacco, and pipe tobacco, among others.
This rule will allow the FDA to improve public health and protect future generations from the dangers of tobacco use through a variety of steps, including restricting the sale of these tobacco products to minors nationwide.
Tobacco use poses a significant threat to public health and is the leading cause of preventable deaths in the U.S. today. While there has been a major decline in the use of traditional cigarettes among youth over the past decade, their use of other tobacco products, including e-cigarettes, continues to climb.
In 2015, 3 million middle and high school students were using e-cigarettes.
Prior to FDA’s actions this week, there was a big difference between the rules for the makers of traditional tobacco cigarettes and the rules for these new products.
If you were to purchase a traditional cigarette today, you would be warned about the health risks. You'd also be over the age of 18, because it is illegal to sell cigarettes to minors. These safeguards have greatly contributed to the decline in smoking. But the newer tobacco products haven't had these same safeguards in place.
The new regulations are aimed at making sure all tobacco manufacturers and retailers follow the same rules -- rules to protect children and make sure everyone can make informed decisions about their own health and the products they purchase.
So what do the new provisions say? For starters:
You can read more about the new regulations and what this means for manufacturers, retailers, and our nation's health here.
- Stores will not be allowed to sell e-cigarettes, cigars, and hookah tobacco to people under 18 years of age.
- All sales to those 26 and under will require a photo ID -- just like needing an ID for cigarettes.
- Manufacturers will be required to place health warnings on product packages and ads.
These regulations mark a new chapter in the FDA's efforts to end preventable tobacco-related disease and death, ensure consumers can make informed decisions, and protect the health of America's youth from the dangers of tobacco.
Thanks again for raising your voice on this issue.
-- The We the People Team
I told you these petitions are pointless. The beoracy don't care what we say. Obama doesn't care about our system... Look at his executive orders.
Oh, Dr. Michael Siegel...
"Nicotine itself is harmful and causes brain damage in adolescents. And even with a truly safer product, it would not benefit the public's health because there is no question that it would be a gateway to smoking.
The bare truth is that putting something in your mouth, a stick-like device, and inhaling is going to be risky. Thus, there would have been no definite public health advantage to creating a presumably safer product and by failing to pursue a safer cigarette, the companies therefore did not violate any public health duty of care."
You told me? Why thank you...
Well not you personally, I think I mentioned though in general. I did sign that petition but I knew it was pointless.
Because there isn't enough push from us and the manufactures
Well I know that typically common sense is foreign to them, but it's still worth trying. lol
Cigar smokers make up about 3% of the population, we probably make up at least 4%, since we were at 3.7% in 2014 as someone pointed out in this thread. We basically need to take a look at what they're doing, and not doing.
Sigh.
When you get 107K signatures on a Petition, it isn't the 107K Signatures that gets Noticed. Or puts a degree of Fear into someone.
It is the Concept that 107,716 people could each Donate $10 (or More!) towards a Legal Action. Or to Contribute to a Campaign to De-Throne a sitting State Rep(s) or Senator(s).
Two cents?
That's nothing.
I'll give you $100 if you tell us how to do that.
And by that, I mean, in a way that will actually work.
CASAA does need to have a figurehead with the smarts to think on his/her feet. This just to put a face on our cause, do tv appearances on news networks, events, talk shows, etc.
Then you must have staff solely dedicated to the direction and outreach to both the press, and direction of social media. These efforts are tracked, measured, and followed up on by said staff. Everyone in the organization follows the lead of marketing. No one out of step.
Hiring a public relations company, or creating one by people who know how, is advised.
Ive done all this in my career for Internet companies. Its not rocket science. Its planning and execution. Every large business or organization has PR and marketing. Its vital to getting a message out.
I can advise if need be CASAA or anyone else, but I am retired/disabled.
You can donate your $100 to CASAA.
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Totally, and I don't think this is a long shot. Real talk....this topic would give them a world of comedy to choose from at our expense as well. But it's fully worth it. Nothing is more effective than when a comedian like him confirms the stereotypes that everyone laughs at, and then follows it up with "oh, and even if you find this whole thing silly, it could save millions of lives."
I really think this should be our target. Not sure how to best reach the show, but I'll do some research today.
BTW - Those in Government know that on Most Issues, that for Every Person who Signs a Petition there are 10 or More who would have Signed the Petition if they were Aware of it.
That's the whole point of CASAA, the WhiteHouse doesn't care.
I won't be voting for my rep and senator because they don't support what I want and 1,007 people like me won't either.[
I GOT IT!!!!
We go to the Capitol Barber Shop and collect hair clippings off the floor every day for the next 88 days. On day 89, we throw them all in a jar with PG, VG, Nic, and horse-poo flavoring, then we offer it for sale at someone's vape shop.
After 88 days of collection, we could say we have high confidence that we have at least one senator, one congressman, and one regulators hair in our juice- even if we don't, we could never PROVE that we don't, right.
Then they'd have to regulate all those idiots as tobacco products.
Problem solved. You're all welcome.
We go to the Capitol Barber Shop and collect hair clippings off the floor every day for the next 88 days. On day 89, we throw them all in a jar with PG, VG, Nic, and horse-poo flavoring, then we offer it for sale at someone's vape shop.
After 88 days of collection, we could say we have high confidence that we have at least one senator, one congressman, and one regulators hair in our juice- even if we don't, we could never PROVE that we don't, right.
Then they'd have to regulate all those idiots as tobacco products.
Problem solved. You're all welcome.
Well I know that typically common sense is foreign to them, but it's still worth trying. lol
Cigar smokers make up about 3% of the population, we probably make up at least 4%, since we were at 3.7% in 2014 as someone pointed out in this thread. We basically need to take a look at what they're doing, and not doing.
We need lobbyists? More senators and congressmen who vape?
You got the WhiteHouse's answer, they don't care. If they did the OMB wouldn't have approved the regulations in the first place, many manufactures, and people contacted the OMB, Mr President doesn't care at this point simply because he's leaving in less than a year.
I know. Seriously now, the issue of random petitions has been discussed (hotly) here for years. I don't think they do any harm, but they don't do much good either. Just read the response I posted--they don't give a
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