Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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I'm subscribed to CASAA, wonder if the email got lost in a spam filter or cyberspace somewhere. I didn't see it. Good looking out though.
There's no doubt in my mind that e-cigs are better in terms of harm reduction. But IQOS replicates the taste of smoke (yuk!) far better than any e-cig, and they deliver the goods that are missing from straight nicotine. They do the latter even better than WTA liquids. Thus I think they have considerable potential to get more people off combustibles, specifically those who've tried e-cigs and failed to switch to them.
Right, but!
The danger is people starting on them, and vilifying e-cigs. Which is the setup we're seeing unfolding. And getting them used to tobacco smoking (your 'yuk' observation).
This is a case of the two devils we sort-of-know...but one is worse than the other. And I get that, for current smokers that don't take to vaping, iQOS is an alternative. OR, I suppose if they eliminate cigs entirely and only have iQOS. Maybe that's the grand-plan, but I don't think it's practical.
I'd put iQOS at the bottom of the tier of alternatives, or inverting it I suppose you could say the 2nd from top in the danger zone. Even above snus I'm guessing. With cigs being the top danger. IDK about chew and how that fits. So excepting that.
The traditional NRTs are probably less dangerous than e-cigs even, but they're just a hell of a lot less effective in stopping relapse.
All these products represent a continuum of risk. Putting aside the politics for a moment, a person should use the least risky product that works for them. Ideally, that's quitting cold turkey and using no product at all. All of us have tried that at one point or another, and failed. So we use the least risky product that worked for us e-cigs. Us looking askance at people who use IQOS is no different that the cold-turkey crowd looking askance at us.
If the choices narrow down to IQOS type devices it will be price and availability that affects how many people return to or keep smoking. If the pricing parallels cigarettes, combined with the similar flavor, then smoking will remain a likely outcome unless banned.
The answer to that question would probably not shock anyone; save the children, we have an epidemic.
I call B.S. False parallel.
It IS different.
1) "they" are vilifying e-cigs and replacing them with a product that is, ostensibly, more deadly and an easier transition to smoking "real" cigs.
2) And, as mentioned above, price. This is cornering the market. The NRT products (gum, lozenge, patch) just aren't as effective.
So when we're left with iQOS or gum/patch/lozenge...and e-cigs are vilified and provide a better alternative for most (IMHO) than iQOS, I cry foul.
This is corporate maneuvering. Pure and simple. I'd rather see more MAOI juice options than iQOS. If for no other reason than the "lock" (and patents) in the marketplace for iQOS when compared to the open market of e-cigs. At least until May...
Tried IQOS and yeah, I believe there is a very small chance that somebody who is vaping will switch to it because the flavor is like a reg. cig with a slight hint of something fruity/woody/minty, smell is almost as bad as from the regulars (bad breath too). But for smokers who didn't switch yet this might be a next step.
I personally don't see why when there is an even better option in vaping but maybe when these mor@ns will ban all vaping flavors in the US ...
This isn't a "my way or the highway" thing on my part. I'm not vilifying gum/patches/lozenges. I get why they're there and they're handy.
I'm not fond of iQOS simply due to 1) It's full of chemicals, bad breath, and smoking-like stuff that's more unknown than e-cigs and 2) it's a patent lock on the industry while destroying/vilifying e-cigs. And THAT is a problem.
If they released it in the same open market that has e-cigs...it might go the way of the ?premier?. So they have to kill the other options. And that's where I'm having a major attitude problem here.
In a sense the US government is enabling violations of anti trust laws. Competitors to the simple ecig can't win without them.
Does the IQOS put out the same aroma as burning tobacco, like will it stink up the room and cling to your clothes and so forth?
edit - someone already answered that
not as much as regulars and maybe not from the 1st stick but if you'll go through a pack of these in a day you'll have almost the same effect as from the regulars.
IQOS is a shoe-in. FDA said it is considered a cigarette so master settlement applies.
To a Non-Lawyer, you would think that an IQOS HEET would satisfy the Definition of a "Cigarette" under the MSA.
(m) "Cigarette" means any product that contains nicotine, is intended to be burned or heated under ordinary conditions of use, and consists of or contains (1) any roll of tobacco wrapped in paper or in any substance not containing tobacco; or (2) tobacco, in any form, that is functional in the product, which, because of its appearance, the type of tobacco used in the filler, or its packaging and labeling, is likely to be offered to, or purchased by, consumers as a cigarette; or (3) any roll of tobacco wrapped in any substance containing tobacco which, because of its appearance, the type of tobacco used in the filler, or its packaging and labeling, is likely to be offered to, or purchased by, consumers as a cigarette described in clause (1) of this definition. The term "Cigarette" includes "roll-your-own" (i.e., any tobacco which, because of its appearance, type, packaging, or labeling is suitable for use and likely to be offered to, or purchased by, consumers as tobacco for making cigarettes). Except as provided in subsections II(z) and II(mm), 0.0325 ounces of "roll-your-own" tobacco shall constitute one individual "Cigarette."
https://www.publichealthlawcenter.org/sites/default/files/resources/master-settlement-agreement.pdf
But then again, Lawyers seem to have Unusual Views about things when there is Billions of Dollars hanging in the balance for their Clients. And themselves.
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