If the mail ban didn't really take effect, why the Xtra charges from vape shops and signature deliverys?
Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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My guess: There is such confusion and speculation that some have chosen to "err on the side of caution". The thought of possibly violating a federal or state dictate is frequently sufficient to ensure the desired behavior. In a former life I used to call this regulation by intimidation.
Although USPS hasn't implemented the shipping ban aspect of the PACT act, they are enforcing other aspects of the act including the adult signature.
To save one's credibility, one would have to have some credibility to save.
With the debacle over the PMTA process, blanket rejections of PMTA's, and goal post moving when it came to "teen vaping", I'd say the FDA has no credibility to save.
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I have Followed the Text of what people Today are calling this "USPS Ban" since it's inception in late 2017 to it's Introduction as SB 1253 in April of 2019.
Text - S.1253 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): Preventing Online Sales of E-Cigarettes to Children Act
And was Not surprised to see it receive Passage as an End-Run Rider.
Lemme guess: they were testing the vape/aerosol at 300 watts on a protank coil.
Let's do a search namesake of Bloomberg School of Public Health - Google Search
In the results,we find...
That could be a possible answer.
From the article: "Although it's possible to buy vaping products in hundreds of flavors, for consistency they tested only tobacco-flavored liquids sold by four popular brands—Mi-Salt, Vuse, Juul, and Blu".
Well is Blu is owned by Imperial which was purchased from Lorillard. Vuse is made by R.J. Reynolds. Juul is made by Altria. Not sure who makes Mi-Salt.
Of the 4 brands "tested" by Johns Hopkins, 3 are made by BT. Small wonder, there's a ton of "unknown chemicals" in the 4 brands tested.
Leopards don't change their spots and neither does BT.
What did they find? And what did they say they found?
"........There’s just one problem: the researchers judged the results by EPA limits, which measure safe concentrations in the air we breathe all day long. But vapers don’t breathe vapor constantly all day long. Environmental standards are the wrong way to measure something that is only inhaled occasionally.
Unfortunately, vaping researchers willing to twist their results to shape regulations are all too common."
"Dr. Konstantinos Farsalinos, a medical doctor and research fellow at the Onassis Cardiac Surgery Center in Athens, Greece, caught the error (or deception) right away. Dr. Farsalinos has made a career of doing fair research on vapor products, and he’s done more than anyone to call out other scientists with lower standards.
In a Facebook post, Farsalinos quickly deflated the conclusions of the Johns Hopkins study.
“The ‘significant amount’ of metals the authors reported they found were measured in μg/kg,” wrote Farsalinos. “In fact they are so low that for some cases (chromium and lead) I calculated that you need to vape more than 100 ml per day in order to exceed the FDA limits for daily intake from [inhaled] medications. The authors once again confuse themselves and everyone else by using environmental safety limits related to exposure with every single breath, and apply them to vaping. However, humans take more than 17,000 (thousand) breaths per day but only 400-600 puffs per day from an e-cigarette.”
In other words, the Johns Hopkins researchers found nothing unusual — nothing that should alarm vapers or regulators — but they translated their results into terms that would create maximum panic. There’s nothing new about scientific results being turned into anti-vaping propaganda."
"The authors misrepresented their results to imply that the vapers’ exposure to dangerous metals was more dangerous than it actually was. And they decided that assuring sensational press coverage by exaggerating their results was more important than offering honest information.
The truth of the study is that there are metals in e-liquid vapor — just not in high enough concentrations to be especially concerning. But vapers should be aware of it, and it’s probably something manufacturers should try to reduce as much as possible. That’s the story here.
But it’s not the story the Johns Hopkins scientists wanted to tell. They wanted a scary story, so they took their data and made the results seem worse than they really were with reporting tricks. They’re not interested in trying to solve a real problem. Every time researchers like these cry wolf, they make vapers less likely to trust future research that might actually raise serious risks."
Are Vapers At Risk From Hazardous Metals?
They did this with alcohol over a hundred years ago and had 'evidence' that even breathing the fumes from drinking alcohol was hazardous to your health - During Prohibition they in fact poisoned a lot of alcohol with Methanol and thousands of drinkers died ! Think the EVALI lung disease was accidental - Think again!
So I'm asking - When they have finally outlawed all, or most, legal vaping products that are safe and regulated, and caused the creation of a large market of unregulated vape juices, etc. - Will, like they did with Methanol added to poison alcohol, then poison some of the juices remaining on the market to make their point and put an end to what Bloomb.... wants ended ???
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The age to legally buy vaping products is 21.
If middle and high school students are getting their hands on vaping products, it is a law enforcement problem and not a health problem.
Yep,stores and gas stations should be held accountable for selling to minors.
They catch them selling to minors for the first time they get a 5 grand fine,second time 15 grand and if they do it a third time they get closed down for good.,as simple as that.
Yeah, but why enforce existing laws when they can make political capital by making new ones?
Were I am, you can't buy lottery tickets at the counter anymore in most places, you have to use vending machines. No one keeps watch on them and last week I saw a kid under 18 (probably about 12-14) buying lottery tickets at one of these machines. It's illegal for a minor to buy lottery tickets and for someone to sell lottery tickets to them.
Ohhhh, I bet it's the bright glowing lights that attracted them. Better ban lottery tickets too then.
"Enforcing". Funny. Of the 40 or so packages I've had delivered by USPS, I've only had to sign for 3 of them. It's funny how they enforce the parts that include money - and that's about as far as it extends.
BUT - The letter carrier probably knows you and is probably signing for you and/or knows where he is delivering to and you are not an underage buyer - Technically this may be wrong - But in the meantime it might be a good idea to be thankful you can still get USPS vape delivery at all !
I've only ever met one delivery person at my door and I'd received several packages before this happened. The other 2 I had to go to the post office to sign for/pick up. I'm not complaining about the convenience it serves me, simply making the observation of where they care to apply their enforcement - where the money is. A reoccurring theme in this entire debacle.
I think one of the tickets they sell in that machine is bubble gum flavored.
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