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I told you wrong about the flavor last night, Banjo. I goofed up yesterday and didn't do my housekeeping. After cleaning out the crud between the center post and outer threaded shell of my KR8 batteries, the flavor is better today. I know better than let that happen, but sometimes I just don't do better.

What I'm looking for (kinda) is the flavor I get with a PTB'd V3 at 3.7v. It's like the cool flavorable vape you get at around 2.8v with an unmodified one, but "more" of it. It's like a giant rush of cool flavor that makes you light-headed after too many draws. To date it's the best indication (to me) of what these things are capable of. If they all vaped like that NOBODY could keep them on the shelves.

That's what's frustrating reading posts of people who are having taste issues with these. I know what they can do if they're "right".
 

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I received my 510xl ce2 r4s yesterday from COV. These are the reported 2.5ohm ones. I've been using it on my 2 Rivas and my 1 900mah eGo.

Right out of the gate, the first one I tried and am still using is very good. No primer, no leaking. Vapor production is good. If I vape too much, I do get that dried funny taste you usually get from CE2s running out of juice, so I have tried to slow down my vaping so it wicks properly. Much better. Also, the taste of the juice I used was practically non-existent in the first few hours. I fell asleep early, woke up, took some drags, and voila. The taste is all there.

Do I want to fuss with PTB modding this to improve the wicking? Not at this time.

I am looking forward to trying the higher ohm ones in the future and hope that will solve my wicking problem.

I think higher ohms WILL solve the wicking problems for most people, but I'm still trying to convince e-liquid.cn to offer 3 ohm standard 510 cartos. Why they can't see it I don't know. Maybe it's the juice they're testing these with - maybe they're just interested in making the most "vapor" and think lower ohms are the best way to do that. Luckily they offer almost all the other versions in 3-3.2 ohms, and imo that's all people should be ordering.
 

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Quick question - I'm sure this has been covered somewhere back on the depths of the thread. I'm trying to do a Bad LTB mod to my regular r3 (I think) ... following his video. But for the life of me that pesky inner ring will not budge! I'm using a pair of fine-nose tweezers - but that thing feels like its glued in and the tweezers just keep slipping off. I don't want to wreck the thing... any advice?
 

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Quick question - I'm sure this has been covered somewhere back on the depths of the thread. I'm trying to do a Bad LTB mod to my regular r3 (I think) ... following his video. But for the life of me that pesky inner ring will not budge! I'm using a pair of fine-nose tweezers - but that thing feels like its glued in and the tweezers just keep slipping off. I don't want to wreck the thing... any advice?

It takes time and patience. If it's a R3 there's a chance you might have a little glue holding the inner cap on. I use a small punch to go around from the inside and pop it loose, but be careful. Just work around in a circle and take your time.

btw you might want to try my way first - you don't have to cut the wicks:

"Ok here's how *I* mod these. YMMV and if anything I say sounds like Greek to you PM me and I'll try to explain further. Before using these for the first time - check the threads! If they look damaged do NOT screw it on your battery/mod. Doing so can ruin your battery!

1. Remove the mouthpiece, middle ring and bottom filler ring.
2. Rinse the carto throughly in hot water or boil... your choice.
3. Blow it out, place it your battery source (mods work best) and power it on while it drys. After the sizzle stops continue to pulse the power on and off until the carto stops smoking. Continue to pulse the power on and off until the coil is a nice orange color. Unscrew the carto.
4. Cut the top seam on a Lipton Pyramid Tea Bag and remove the tea. Cut the two glued seams with scissors and open the PTB up so you have a single-layer, long rectangular piece.
5. Cut the PTB in half (through the shortest part). Take that piece and cut in half again (again through the shortest part). Each quarter piece will make (1) plug.
6. Fold the piece you just cut in half (width-wise), then in half again (width-wise). Tri-fold that piece (width-wise) so that you end up with a small rectangular piece roughly 1/2" by 1/4".
7. Holding the PTB with pointed tweezers, give it a slight bend so that the end is shaped roughly like the inside of the carto wall. Using your tweezers gently push the PTB between the slot in the cup and the outer carto wall. Push it about half-way in (folds to the top). Repeat process on the other side.
8. Once you have both pieces half-way in, continue pushing them in until the PTB is even with the top of the cup. It will take a little bit of force but they should go in fairly easily.
9. Drip fill the carto (or inject with a syringe) until the juice is just below the top of the cup.
10. Place the MIDDLE ring up against the top of the cup flat side down.
11. Replace the mouthpiece and vape (you can save the filler ring if you want, but if you've done everything right you'll never need it again)."
 
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I'm still torn about what to order next. I'm a 510 guy and would like standard length at 3 ohms or higher, but since they don't offer those I guess I'll be ordering XL's. I have adapters for 808D but I've just never been crazy about them...

Banjo - FWIW the short 510's at 3 ohms are the ones I would buy too. I can't understand why they think people wouldn't want that combination.
 

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I think higher ohms WILL solve the wicking problems for most people, but I'm still trying to convince e-liquid.cn to offer 3 ohm standard 510 cartos. Why they can't see it I don't know. Maybe it's the juice they're testing these with - maybe they're just interested in making the most "vapor" and think lower ohms are the best way to do that. Luckily they offer almost all the other versions in 3-3.2 ohms, and imo that's all people should be ordering.

It isn't just about e-liquid making them available, I wonder how many vendors are even aware of the difference in ohms?

ie Liberty-Flights just got in the r3s and have ordered r4s. I asked him about the ohms and he didn't have a clue. I gave him a link to this thread! lol!

Then twice I asked Bruce on his COV threads about his getting in 510xl at 3 ohms and he ignored my questions.

Vaping.com and awesomevapor.com didn't list the ohms either.

I believe I read that vaporjunction has carried different ohms in the past? I hope they get these in. :)

BanjoMan, I really am looking for the holy grail with these because I'm not a hobbyist. I am a nicotine addict and I want to be able to make my life as easy as possible when it comes to PVs. Give me a decent battery, some good jucie and a way to deliver it that's simple, clean and proficient. That's all I ask in regard to PVs. :)
 

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What I'm looking for (kinda) is the flavor I get with a PTB'd V3 at 3.7v. It's like the cool flavorable vape you get at around 2.8v with an unmodified one, but "more" of it. It's like a giant rush of cool flavor that makes you light-headed after too many draws. To date it's the best indication (to me) of what these things are capable of. If they all vaped like that NOBODY could keep them on the shelves.

That's what's frustrating reading posts of people who are having taste issues with these. I know what they can do if they're "right".

I have been following your plight, so I believe I understand your desires. This 3Ω 510 XL may just accomplish that for you. I'm not needing more to make me lightheaded. I can get that way at the lower voltages. I believed from the very beginning that this resistance would be ideal for me on the various 510 type battery voltages, and sure enough I was right. I really like this 510 and I really like when I am right. I might even crack a smile before the day is over with.
 

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Banjo - FWIW the short 510's at 3 ohms are the ones I would buy too. I can't understand why they think people wouldn't want that combination.

Go to E-liquid Web Shop CN and click on the "contact us" button on the top-right page. Ask them to offer 3 ohm standard 510 E2's. Maybe if enough people do that they'll add them.

I don't have anything against the XL's, but I like the shorter length for box mod carry. I've already had to reglue one connector after I snagged an XL on a chair belt-carrying my mod.
 

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It isn't just about e-liquid making them available, I wonder how many vendors are even aware of the difference in ohms?

ie Liberty-Flights just got in the r3s and have ordered r4s. I asked him about the ohms and he didn't have a clue. I gave him a link to this thread! lol!

Then twice I asked Bruce on his COV threads about his getting in 510xl at 3 ohms and he ignored my questions.

Vaping.com and awesomevapor.com didn't list the ohms either.

I believe I read that vaporjunction has carried different ohms in the past? I hope they get these in. :)

BanjoMan, I really am looking for the holy grail with these because I'm not a hobbyist. I am a nicotine addict and I want to be able to make my life as easy as possible when it comes to PVs. Give me a decent battery, some good jucie and a way to deliver it that's simple, clean and proficient. That's all I ask in regard to PVs. :)

The vendors here are going to have to list ohm choices on their websites before I'll even think about ordering from them. I don't need anymore 2.6 ohm cartos... I have plenty.

I'm exactly in the same place as you I think. I want something simple and efficient to replace my smoking habit with. If they get these cartos right I'm there. :)
 

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I have been following your plight, so I believe I understand your desires. This 3Ω 510 XL may just accomplish that for you. I'm not needing more to make me lightheaded. I can get that way at the lower voltages. I believed from the very beginning that this resistance would be ideal for me on the various 510 type battery voltages, and sure enough I was right. I really like this 510 and I really like when I am right. I might even crack a smile before the day is over with.

It's not the "light-headed" feeling I'm after really. It's the fact that I can take non-stop full-flavor drags *until* I start to get light-headed. That tells me the carto is delivering plenty of juice to the coil.

I might break down and place another order soon. Sounds like they're getting close to what I want.
 

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Go to E-liquid Web Shop CN and click on the "contact us" button on the top-right page. Ask them to offer 3 ohm standard 510 E2's. Maybe if enough people do that they'll add them.

I don't have anything against the XL's, but I like the shorter length for box mod carry. I've already had to reglue one connector after I snagged an XL on a chair belt-carrying my mod.

No prob - I'll contact them after I post this.

I'm the same - I'm not exactly against the XLs, but just prefer the shorter length for carrying in a pocket. I'd probably use XLs at home. I'm not a heavy vaper, so 2 or 3 short ones would get me through a work day. I want to carry at least 2 in case one dies, so I'd prefer 2 or 3 short ones.
 

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No prob - I'll contact them after I post this.

I'm the same - I'm not exactly against the XLs, but just prefer the shorter length for carrying in a pocket. I'd probably use XLs at home. I'm not a heavy vaper, so 2 or 3 short ones would get me through a work day. I want to carry at least 2 in case one dies, so I'd prefer 2 or 3 short ones.

One thing I've learned using these non-stop for almost two months is that you ALWAYS carry extras with you. When they die they tend to do it suddenly, while in use. They don't give you any warning at all.
 

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The vendors here are going to have to list ohm choices on their websites before I'll even think about ordering from them. I don't need anymore 2.6 ohm cartos... I have plenty.

I'm exactly in the same place as you I think. I want something simple and efficient to replace my smoking habit with. If they get these cartos right I'm there. :)

dittos & dittos
 

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I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but if you like whistle tips, 901 cartridges fit nicely on these too - you just need to cut a little off the bottom so they can be pushed all the way in.

And they'll even work a bit better if you drill a hole through the inner filler chamber... straight up toward the mouthpiece opening.
 

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If someone is looking for another USA source, Volcano ecigs is carrying the R4 now and supposedly have quite a few in stock. They just got them in this last week so they should be the latest and greatest.

If you're talking about these guys I didn't see them...

I believe I read that vaporjunction has carried different ohms in the past? I hope they get these in.

They had theirs listed as 3ohms for the 510, 808, and 401. They were r3 and are all but sold out. He is planning to get r4 I think when they are all the real deal.


'banjo'; have you not tried these new r4's? So far I'm impressed. 'bad' was getting ohm readings close to 3 on the 510's too. 2.9 I think.
 

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It's not the "light-headed" feeling I'm after really. It's the fact that I can take non-stop full-flavor drags *until* I start to get light-headed. That tells me the carto is delivering plenty of juice to the coil.

I might break down and place another order soon. Sounds like they're getting close to what I want.

Well, 3Ω will allow you to do that. Unfortunately, you cannot do that with a 510 regular.
 

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Hey 'scott', I'm using a RS Vgo, just got it yesterday. They claim it's 3.7 under load but I don't have a way to test it. I'd love for you to. I'm use to 3.7 vaping and it seems like it could be...or it just could be the new battery honeymoon phase...lol

Well if one comes across my desk.. I'll be sure to test it. But I don't see myself ordering anything from RS in the near future..... (if ever again).

You're not really believing their advertising now.. are you??? ;)
 
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