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im in freaking limbo guys, its killing me,

I must be mental becuase after a year of collecting every atty from LR to HV and trying every carto form low ohm to high and trying every foam, straw teabag mod I truly got fed up, dripping every few minutes became a choir, searching for the best juices became expensive and a chore, so then i found my juices that i can smoke all day but right at that point i got fed up with the dripping, leaking, filler cartos, etc...

then the e2 came and the ones that worked are so amazing to me that i packed up my drawer full of crap and boxed it up and with my personality im not going back to that headache again.

and knowing that the e2's with ceramics should completly satisfy me the way i need to be satisfied with vaping is still a week to 2 weeks away is killing me slowly. i dont know if im gonna make it.
 

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im in freaking limbo guys, its killing me,

I must be mental becuase after a year of collecting every atty from LR to HV and trying every carto form low ohm to high and trying every foam, straw teabag mod I truly got fed up, dripping every few minutes became a choir, searching for the best juices became expensive and a chore, so then i found my juices that i can smoke all day but right at that point i got fed up with the dripping, leaking, filler cartos, etc...

then the e2 came and the ones that worked are so amazing to me that i packed up my drawer full of crap and boxed it up and with my personality im not going back to that headache again.

and knowing that the e2's with ceramics should completly satisfy me the way i need to be satisfied with vaping is still a week to 2 weeks away is killing me slowly. i dont know if im gonna make it.

You'll make it. Compared to where I was a year ago it's like night and day. I'm off cigarettes for good and have a daily routine I can live with. I don't even mind having a whole tackle box full of 901 batteries and atomizers that I'll never use again. :)
 

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Ok I'm confused, what exact miracle do you expect the ceramic cup to perform?

I have both E2s here. Big deal they put in a ceramic cup, changed the fill cap to silicone and made the slots slightly wider. These so called improvements have made little to no change in actual performance over the other E2s. They did not change the threads at all so they still do not fit on a lot of things. The ohms are still at 2.5 so they are still hot and harsh at 3.7volts. They only hold .7 mil of juice and and if you vape at all, it is like a 510 cart and you have to refill ever hour. If you chain vape the wicking will not keep up. Of course the ceramic cup and new silicone fill cap would not correct those major issues. Sorry guys I do not see any real improvement in actual performance and usability.

I do not understand the thread issue. I have 510 cartos from 7 different manufacturers here and the E2s are the only ones with this problem. The other 6 manufacturers can get it right, how come MiT can't?

On the WetBox the E2s, either revision are great, but normal battery use, they still have a long way to go. Not what you want to hear I'm sure but that's how I see it.


Happy Vaping!!
 

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Ok I'm confused, what exact miracle do you expect the ceramic cup to perform?

I have both E2s here. Big deal they put in a ceramic cup, changed the fill cap to silicone and made the slots slightly wider. These so called improvements have made little to no change in actual performance over the other E2s. They did not change the threads at all so they still do not fit on a lot of things. The ohms are still at 2.5 so they are still hot and harsh at 3.7volts. They only hold .7 mil of juice and and if you vape at all, it is like a 510 cart and you have to refill ever hour. If you chain vape the wicking will not keep up. Of course the ceramic cup and new silicone fill cap would not correct those major issues. Sorry guys I do not see any real improvement in actual performance and usability.

I do not understand the thread issue. I have 510 cartos from 7 different manufacturers here and the E2s are the only ones with this problem. The other 6 manufacturers can get it right, how come MiT can't?

On the WetBox the E2s, either revision are great, but normal battery use, they still have a long way to go. Not what you want to hear I'm sure but that's how I see it.


Happy Vaping!!

im not as concerned with the regular e2, im itching for the XL which is higher ohm and holds more juice. Well yeah the ohm is still 2.5 but those will always be 2.5 ohm, they run hot.
Using the 3.0 ohm e2 i dont have those issues.

the miracle im hoping (waiting) for is the removal of glue and that smell, if thats gone then im happy as hell.
The wider slits where already apparent in some of the plastic ones so that I knew about but the ceramic cup is another plus, it sure seems better then having plastic heating up so close to the coil which on many can deform the slits, so the ceramic is just a bonus.
 
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im not as concerned with the regular e2, im itching for the XL which is higher ohm and holds more juice. Well yeah the ohm is still 2.5 but those will always be 2.5 ohm, they run hot.
Using the 3.0 ohm e2 i dont have those issues.

the miracle im hoping (waiting) for is the removal of glue and that smell, if thats gone then im happy as hell.
The wider slits where already apparent in some of the plastic ones so that I knew about but the ceramic cup is another plus, it sure seems better then having plastic heating up so close to the coil which on many can deform the slits, so the ceramic is just a bonus.

I have opened up 25 of my first E2s and I have yet to find any glue. But I do agree if there was glue it does not have any place in a carto and needs to be done away with. Most of my first ones have wider slots and these new ones are just a tad wider, doesn't seem to make any difference in performance. The actual performance and usability really needs to be addressed and fixed. These are still not ready for prime time.
 

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The ceramic cup has not done away with the too hot and the 'burnt' taste you get when the wick doesn't wick fast enough. And the thread issue DOES need to be fixed. That part is just ridiculous that they can not get the threads right.

This is my opinion. They still perform the same and still have a ohm and thread issue. I want these to be the perfect carto also, but I'm not going to overlook and just accept faults because I want them to work so badly. And these are faults.
 

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The ceramic cup has not done away with the too hot and the 'burnt' taste you get when the wick doesn't wick fast enough. And the thread issue DOES need to be fixed. That part is just ridiculous that they can not get the threads right.

This is my opinion. They still perform the same and still have a ohm and thread issue. I want these to be the perfect carto also, but I'm not going to overlook and just accept faults because I want them to work so badly. And these are faults.

do you see a difference in how loose the coil is in ceramics versus old version
 

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After using these for most of the day, I would rate them a 9 out of 10. The flavor is intense and the vapor is at least double if not triple the volume as compared to an old style carto using the same juice.

Less wicking issues with the filler cap just resting on top of the ceramic instead of cupping it. Not sure if this will cause an issue with the stabilization of the ceramic though as it was off a little to one side after.

No major leakage but there was some buildup on the battery and I had thoroughly cleaned them this morning.

Honestly, it's pretty hard to go back and vape the old cartos now....I can barely tell the flavor on a couple of them when I tried. Just not sure how I will be able to stealth vape at work given the vapor production....
 

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do you see a difference in how loose the coil is in ceramics versus old version

Not noticable. My old ones were the last revision before they stopped to make the ceramics so the coil is loose in those. I do have ones a revision before those that the coil is not as loose. The slots are slightly wider, but it doesn't seem to help it wick faster.

The new silicone fill cap may be sealing off the juice chamber too completely also. It seals around the ceramic cup on the top and because it's soft silicone the fill holes may actually be sucking closed instead of staying open to allow air exchange. This may be more the cause of the slow wicking than how tight the coil is or how wide the slots are.

On the WetBox since I can give a squeeze and wet the coil they are wonderful, great vapor and flavor, albeit still on the hot side. And amazingly the WetBox is the only device that all the E2s fit on without problem. The 5 I got today with the ceramic cups, only 2 fit on my Ego and the other 3 are going to have to be forced. None of them work on the Chameleon or the Buzz and will need major modification and or an adapter to fit.
 

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Less wicking issues with the filler cap just resting on top of the ceramic instead of cupping it. Not sure if this will cause an issue with the stabilization of the ceramic though as it was off a little to one side after

That goes along with my theory that the silicone is sealing off the juice chamber too completely and not allowing air exchange. I'm going to try it like you have it with the fill cap just resting on the cup. Thanks night!!!
 

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That goes along with my theory that the silicone is sealing off the juice chamber too completely and not allowing air exchange. I'm going to try it like you have it with the fill cap just resting on the cup. Thanks night!!!

Unfortunately it doesn't solve the wicking issue but I think it helps. I agree it's a very unpleasant taste when it's not wicked enough but I'm getting such a hit off these, if I chainvaped I would probably pass out lol. And I prefer to use a drip tip even on cartos but can't with these because they would force the rings down too far.

I just tried the other ones on my ego and don't have any fitting issues, got lucky there I guess. Was there liquid in all of yours? 2 of mine were dry not that I'm sure that makes a difference....obviously consistency is not their forte....
 

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Unfortunately it doesn't solve the wicking issue but I think it helps. I agree it's a very unpleasant taste when it's not wicked enough but I'm getting such a hit off these, if I chainvaped I would probably pass out lol. And I prefer to use a drip tip even on cartos but can't with these because they would force the rings down too far.

I just tried the other ones on my ego and don't have any fitting issues, got lucky there I guess. Was there liquid in all of yours? 2 of mine were dry not that I'm sure that makes a difference....obviously consistency is not their forte....

I've only opened the top of 2 of them, one had a slight amount of pg and the other none. I'm using a drip tip on mine, but I have the fill cap pushed all the way down like it came and I just left out the other ring and no problems that way. Will have to check out leaving the fill cap up and see how the drip tip fits. The other extra ring is only there to help keep excess condensation from going on the mouth, with a drip tip that's not really a problem.

I'm gone for the night now. Happy Vaping!!
 

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Thanks WitchWay for FINALLY answering about the threads.
I find it a major problem with the acceptance and therefore distribution of these in the USA.
I mean come-on EVERYONE, a device that will break your PV when you try and screw it in.
I know we are coping with adaptors but none of the others who got the new r3 E2’s thought to mention that they still haven’t got the threads right, but focus on if or if not the vapor is inconsistence as the reservoir level drops. What’s wrong with this picture everyone?
OK my little whine is over and numerous apologies to anyone who is working hard to give us information about something REALLY new it might have offended. Having a lurker, who isn’t working hard, critique people who are doing the effort is hypocritical at least, apologies again from a lurker who will now shut-up before he’s thought of as a Troll.
 

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Thanks WitchWay for FINALLY answering about the threads.
I find it a major problem with the acceptance and therefore distribution of these in the USA.
I mean come-on EVERYONE, a device that will break your PV when you try and screw it in.
I know we are coping with adaptors but none of the others who got the new r3 E2’s thought to mention that they still haven’t got the threads right, but focus on if or if not the vapor is inconsistence as the reservoir level drops. What’s wrong with this picture everyone?
OK my little whine is over and numerous apologies to anyone who is working hard to give us information about something REALLY new it might have offended. Having a lurker, who isn’t working hard, critique people who are doing the effort is hypocritical at least, apologies again from a lurker who will now shut-up before he’s thought of as a Troll.

yeah, the threads do need fixing even though they mention they are only for joye 510 originals, but if the others can get them more universal then so should this place.

if you need a temp fix for those you can sahve the other ring a tad with a nail file so the inner post makes contact with the battery or mod you use.
 

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You'll make it. Compared to where I was a year ago it's like night and day. I'm off cigarettes for good and have a daily routine I can live with. I don't even mind having a whole tackle box full of 901 batteries and atomizers that I'll never use again. :)

Ever considered PIF to get rid of the 901 stuff. There are a lot of people out there who would be thrilled to have them. Just sayin' :closedeyes:

yeah, the threads do need fixing even though they mention they are only for joye 510 originals, but if the others can get them more universal then so should this place.

if you need a temp fix for those you can sahve the other ring a tad with a nail file so the inner post makes contact with the battery or mod you use.

How can the threads be made universally on the cartos when the batts aren't? It doesn't matter what 510 I use, Joye, knockoff, pt, Hello etc . . . I have to search for a carto to fit. Not just the ce2 but any carto. The Boge seem to fit the best but they don't fit everything all the time. :ohmy:
 
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