E2 Cartomizer Technical Discussion

[badkolo]

hmm i see what your sayiong about the threads, i dont know if its blue or black but i have seen the same on eastmall cartomizers and some from other vendors on the threads, i cut open over 50 old e2's and now 6 new xl e2's and i dont see any blue stains on the wick or black stains but i will open more to check them further.

about the primer, i dont see any reason for it and have expressed my negative stance on them, they felt it will ease with the wicking and maybe for other reasons but i dont think its needed at all. im not sure what that primer is but its the same exact stuff thats on all eastmall, healthcabin and a few other vendors atomizers, those atomizers come greased up in primer, so much so the inside of the little baggy is covered in it. i smapled this primer form those attys i have and it s the same tastes and smell , before and after firing

 

[zoiDman]

hmm i see what your sayiong about the threads, i dont know if its blue or black but i have seen the same on eastmall cartomizers and some from other vendors on the threads, i cut open over 50 old e2's and now 6 new xl e2's and i dont see any blue stains or black stains but i will open more to check them further.

I didn't say that the treads are stained.

I said that there is a Pale Blue Fluid INSIDE the carto on the the seals and carto body.

 

[WiηgC¤mmαηdεя]

hmm i see what your sayiong about the threads, i dont know if its blue or black but i have seen the same on eastmall cartomizers and some from other vendors on the threads, i cut open over 50 old e2's and now 6 new xl e2's and i dont see any blue stains or black stains but i will open more to check them further.

LOL - stress/sample testing to the extreme are you Bad. Now that's what I call enthusiasm for a new product and testing for defects.

 

[badkolo]

I didn't say that the treads are stained.

I said that there is a Pale Blue Fluid INSIDE the carto on the the seals and carto body.

ok, but im not seeing that, ill cut open some more and check em but i have these here fully cut open in front of me and i dont see any blue stain. But i will keep checking and looking for that for sure.

wingcommander: for sure, we went form plastic and glue to ceramic and no glue, we went form tight coil to looser coil, so sticking with this has paid off so far but there is more work that needs to be done to improve them, as of now they perform better then old cartos and are more reliable now its about ironing out the connectors for some people and maybe a better refilling system for some even though on video u will see its a breeze to refill with the tip they provide but thats just me, some might want a better solution like scottbee mentioned.

The e2 beats dripping for me with results that are pretty equal, they provide better vapor then old cartos for me and the taste is better.

The primer needs to go, I know other atomizers use it but i dont see why the e2 should, this isnt news and we all know atomizers come primed but the e2 should come without any primer.

also they need to check the 510 xl's, they are not at 3.0 ohm, i have 400 more to check so this is on a small sample i tested but still the ones i tested are at 2.6 to 2.8 and not the 2.8 to 3.0 as they should be, the 808 xl are all 3.0 ohm so far and the same with the regular 808 3.0 ohm e2

 

[zoiDman]

ok, but im not seeing that, ill cut open some more and check em but i have these here fully cut open in front of me and i dont see any blue stain. But i will keep checking and looking for that for sure.

Replace the word "stain" with "fluid. And don’t look in a old carto, look in a fresh blank carto.

 

[badkolo]

Replace the word "stain" with "fluid. And don’t look in a old carto, look in a fresh blank carto.

ok ill do that for you as well, and record it.

 

[v1John]

The primer was brought up into discussion a long time ago in the big thread, and it sounds like they started using it shortly after that.

Why do atomizers use primer anyway?

With the ce2 design, you can easily drop 2 to 4 drops of liquid on the coil, and eliminate the need for primer.

So it sounds like they need

A) coil looser still?
B) no primer, wick needs to be totally dry?

Unless there is a reason why y'all think they're primed...
Maybe we just need to know why they're wet, with what, and why!

Also, people getting coils that are allegedly not loose, I think we need pics.

 

[WiηgC¤mmαηdεя]

It was a complement Bad, in fact my wife thinks I am a little to enthusiastic over these.
Thanks to the in depth constructive criticism of yourself and others(Nav etc) we have witnessed some of the most rapid product redesigns guided by customer feedback I have ever seen

All the best,
Wing

 

[zoiDman]

ok ill do that for you as well, and record it.

What do you do with the records?

You don't really have to look if you don't want to you know. The reason I posted it was for Anyone who might be using these cartos.

If it turns out that this liquid isn't menat to be INSIDE a carto, I think it would be good for members to look for it and then decide if they want to just "vape thru it" until it is gone.

Or if they want to wash out the carto first.

 

[zoiDman]

...

Unless there is a reason why y'all think they're primed...
Maybe we just need to know why they're wet, with what, and why!

I don't think it Is primer fluid.

I think it is a lubricant used in the assembly of the carto to assist in getting the seals to slide down the sides of the carto walls. I think that occasionally a glob of this liquid accidentally gets on the wick material.

It would be nice to know what the fluid is one way or another. Seeing that if someone doesn’t notice it on the wick, they are going to vape it.

 

[WiηgC¤mmαηdεя]

Replace the word "stain" with "fluid. And don’t look in a old carto, look in a fresh blank carto.

EDIT: to all appearances fluid is primer, will have a close look when my order arrives.

All the best,
Wing.

 

[badkolo]

Here it is cut open for you on a new one , there is no glue inside, no blue juice and THERE IS NO SEALENT AT ALL, they are built like the older carto which is a major plus. The build is 100% better then the first revision when comparing the inside(ceramic,post,coil,and NO SEALANT.

YouTube - NEW ceramic Xl 510 E2 cartomizer cut open for testing


BR, the anticipation now must really be killing you. lol soon br soon

 

[v1John]

Good video.
Bad, can you take that carto skeleton and fire it up in a dry burn somehow?
Maybe not without a vice or other tools...but I just thought it would be good to know how far down under the cup the coil gets orange, and how fast, etc.

A lot of people like dry burns for some reason, but it's hard to know how far down the stuff gets orange and hot, and how slow or how fast?



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[misterD]

how did you cut it? what are you gonna do with it? can i have it if its still working?

 

[zoiDman]

I just opened another Brand New E2 XL carto and found more pale Blue FLUID inside it.

There was a sean of it on the inside walls of the carto under the mouth piece. The middle seal also had some on it.

Under the middle seal and onto top of the ceramic cup seal I found more. It could also be seen Clearly in the small fill holes.

 

[badkolo]

picture of the loose coil

 

[v1John]

I just opened another Brand New E2 XL carto and found more pale Blue FLUID inside it.

There was a sean of it on the inside walls of the carto under the mouth piece. The middle seal also had some on it.

Under the middle seal and onto top of the ceramic cup seal I found more. It could also be seen Clearly in the small fill holes.

where are the pics

 

[Scottbee]

Scottbee, the SuperTorneGo II are the atomizers, right? I haven't seen an eGo cartomizer that could be refilled without a syringe.

Katya my precious little songbird..... the "Super TorneGo II" is my own design, a PV that I "created" about 8 months ago. It is my daily-vape and it's all that I really use. For me it works wonderfully, and therefore all test PV's get compared to its capabilities:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/product-feature-design-requests/70591-dream-pvs.html

 

[v1John]

picture of the loose coil

If two or three loops make contact with each other, does the resistance drop from 2.8 ohms to 2.6 ohms?



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[tiburonfirst]

well, apparently production is not consistent with zoid's friend getting cartos with some kind of fluid where bad is not seeing any of that.
bad can you email martinez and ask what the fluid might be? zoid do you have a camera that would pick this up?
maybe the best thing to do is to clean the cartos before use