E2 Cartomizer Technical Discussion

[BanjoMan]

Wanted to add:

My biggest problem with the overall design of these is the syringe filling and the fact that the filler ring interferes with my cleaning method. For my "test" last night I used a syringe just to see if there was any difference in the amount of juice these things took (there wasn't). I want to be able to drip fill and clean these quickly, and for *me* that involves losing the filler ring. Some people might have no problems with the stock carto, but if you're going to pull that filler ring out for convenience you'd better have some PTB in there to prevent leaking. I know br has had good luck with his drip-tip, but that method might be beyond the average users reach. ANYBODY can learn any of the PTB methods in just a few minutes, and it's very cheap to do. It also alleviates any wicking problems you might be having. It may not be perfect, but it's good stuff.

 

[badkolo]

Have you tried the semi wick ptb method, if you pull up the wick on each side you have the loop and one strand, have you tried to just remove the looped part of the wicks leaving one wick inside on each side and then using a little ptb to cover the holes.

the same can be done leaving the loops of wick and cutting of the single strand. so there is more testing guys. banjo especially you, get to testing.lolo

I wonder if turbo made his ptb mod yet and the results. cough cough
also banjo have you widened the center hole on the inner plug, if not you should really give it a go.

 

[BanjoMan]

I haven't messed with the center hole yet. Bottom line as long as I'm getting great taste, good wicking and no leaks I'm happy as a clam.

I'm using these on a stock 510 mega batt right now. To be fair even the stock carto is doing well, but for me the PTB adds consistant flavor. I'm going to do another "blind" test with stock batts on my next refill though...

My next experiment might be reducing my nic level to 6mg. I love to vape as much as the next guy, but these things are kicking my .....

 

[badkolo]

I know what you mean, 10mg usa octane sets my ... on fire and thats never happened on any device including dripping.
16mg madvape juice also bends my mind and 16mg dekang almost put me in a nicoma.

I used to vape 24mg months ago but i wouldnt even dare to try that on a e2, especially one with the ptb mod, id be dead before i could review it

 

[Turbo]

I left both "my" mod and the stock carto sitting on its' side overnight: There was no leaking with either.

Just as I thought, leave the filler ring alone and it won't leak. Isn't that another point for me?

If nothing else, maybe these experiments will help people determine what kind of problem they're having, and what they can do to improve performance. Some might wick well but leak, some might not leak but wick terribly. At least we have some viable solutions now.

Exactly, that's what I was saying last night. Your mod will solve a leaker but good wicker and 'bad's addresses both a leaker and bad wicker.

Some people might have no problems with the stock carto, but if you're going to pull that filler ring out for convenience you'd better have some PTB in there to prevent leaking

Bingo. I agree w/ you 'banjo', I did like the old ring that was easy to take out for cleaning/filling. I'm leaving the filler ring in mine for a little longer since they're working.

Have you tried the semi wick ptb method, if you pull up the wick on each side you have the loop and one strand, have you tried to just remove the looped part of the wicks leaving one wick inside on each side and then using a little ptb to cover the holes.

This sounds interesting 'bad', have you tried it? And what about the mod your brother stole, get it back yet for pics?!

I wonder if turbo made his ptb mod yet and the results. cough cough

I know! I have the bags in hand and ready. I'm hesitant to mess w/ the two I have left until they need it although I will do it on my old R2 one. It may not be pertinent being an older design but it does leak.

 

[br5495]

.......... I know br has had good luck with his drip-tip, but that method might be beyond the average users reach.

My tip is experimental only. I believe the version I have in mind can easily be manufactured at a reasonable cost for the average user.

 

[badkolo]

The be all end all to the ptb type mod is the one i made for my brother but he wont be around till late tonight or god knows when but i did speak to him this morning to ask how its holding up and he laughed at me and said you its his and to not even think about it, so he is in heaven and there is no more old cartos around for me to make more. so im in a pickle, ill get to play with it when he gets back but i cant make any more.

before i gave it to him i tried it and its amazing.
I have tried with one strand of wick on each side but didnt do the ptb well on that one but it worked, i will try with one strand and one iwth just the loop on each side.

 

[debb]

quick question...can u use the ptb without tampering with the wick? and would it be better?

 

[badkolo]

well thats banjos method with the wick left alone, yes you can and he loves it.

it depends on what kind of hit you want, if you want soemthing that chokes you out and caves your chest in ,steals your wallet and stomps your face in then cut the wick like in my vid.

 

[br5495]

I know what you mean, 10mg usa octane sets my ... on fire and thats never happened on any device including dripping.
16mg madvape juice also bends my mind and 16mg dekang almost put me in a nicoma.

I used to vape 24mg months ago but i wouldnt even dare to try that on a e2, especially one with the ptb mod, id be dead before i could review it

I've been at 6 mg all along and it was too much. The problem is that these 2.5Ω things on a 510 battery are getting me addicted to more nicotine. I may have to go entirely to KR8's if we can't get 510's at 3Ω.

 

[badkolo]

I've been at 6 mg all along and it was too much. The problem is that these 2.5Ω things on a 510 battery are getting me addicted to more nicotine. I may have to go entirely to KR8's if we can't get 510's at 3Ω.

Oh so now we are going to blame the e2 for making you into a nico junky.
whats next, blame the e2 becuase the republicans cant get their act straight.

i need to get these to cut through the vapor so i can see my screen better

 

[BanjoMan]

I've been at 6 mg all along and it was too much. The problem is that these 2.5Ω things on a 510 battery are getting me addicted to more nicotine. I may have to go entirely to KR8's if we can't get 510's at 3Ω.

Good point. I've been weaning myself down on nic ever since I started vaping. The goal was to eventually get to a point where I could vape all day (habit) while getting little to no nic (addiction). I can feel the difference with these which is why I'm going to "mix down" my next batch of juice. Using the TV juice with doublers that should get my cost per 30ml down to about 5 bucks.

 

[Turbo]

and there is no more old cartos around for me to make more

I have a bunch of 808 cartos around 'bad', would they work or do they need to be a 510? I know the design is different in some 510 cartos; verticle wire vs horizontal coil.

 

[badkolo]

pull out the innerds and if it has that braided wick sleeve on it then thats the one.
place those tube like braided wick thing in place of the ptb, its simple task since they are already shaped and made for you, plop them in and vape your brains out.

it was the simplest mod and best working one for that super intense vapor.

my ptb mod eats through juice, but does so effectively until its empty never getting dry. ill take the trade off any day. THIS IS VAPING

 

[BanjoMan]

Oh so now we are going to blame the e2 for making you into a nico junky.
whats next, blame the e2 becuase the republicans cant get their act straight.

i need to get these to cut through the vapor so i can see my screen better http://kramerentertainment.com/images/scuba-glasses2.jpg

Ha! I'd love to see you make a video with those! I double-dog dare ya!

 

[debb]

well thats banjos method with the wick left alone, yes you can and he loves it.

it depends on what kind of hit you want, if you want soemthing that chokes you out and caves your chest in ,steals your wallet and stomps your face in then cut the wick like in my vid.

Oh my nooooo...that would just kick my ... out the door... ! Thanks...

 

[Turbo]

pull out the innerds and if it has that braided wick sleeve on it then thats the one.
place those tube like braided wick thing in place of the ptb, its simple task since they are already shaped and made for you, plop them in and vape your brains out.

it was the simplest mod and best working one for that super intense vapor.

So you would cut the tube in half? I see, that would be the contour needed. I dub this one the 'CE2 brother mod'...lol

 

[br5495]

Just as I thought, leave the filler ring alone and it won't leak. Isn't that another point for me?

Bingo. I agree w/ you 'banjo', I did like the old ring that was easy to take out for cleaning/filling. I'm leaving the filler ring in mine for a little longer since they're working.

.......... I'm hesitant to mess w/ the two I have left until they need it although I will do it on my old R2 one. It may not be pertinent being an older design but it does leak.

It's like some of us have been trying to say. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If what you have suits you, then don't try to make it suit someone else.

But then, there's always the chance that you can mod it beyond your wildest dreams. I'm trying to do that, but I ain't been successful yet. Maybe a rocket scientist would be better at it, but I am just a certified aircraft and powerplant mechanic.

 

[irwink]

I've been watching this thread for awhile. I received my first 5 E2 rev 3's last Tuesday and was dissapointed with what I assumed were wicking problems. I'm a chain vaper when I'm home and sitting in front of the computer so good 'wickage' is important.

This morning I used some folded up ptb from my cart days, cut it to a length where once inserted it was flush with the cup, filled the cart and have been a happy camper ever since. I am using the standard size 510 versions, not the XL's.

I haven't encountered any real problems with getting the filler rings reinserted and seated on the 2 E2's I've been using so far. In light of that I've been just popping the ring out each time I need to refill and using a much larger syringe to do the job. I could of course fill directly from the bottle but since I have the syringe ready at hand I use that for more of a 'precision' fill. The tiny syringe fill method in combination with the tiny fill ports was a major gripe for me.

FWIW I'm using 65/35 pg/vg juice.

No new findings. I just wanted to confirm what the rest of you have been doing and thank you for the effort.

 

[badkolo]

no turbo, one tube on each side. and the ""brother ptb mod"" it is.lol

but if your leaving the wick in place then you might be able to cut the tube in half since your only trying to cover the slits.