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nicotime

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I started out with cartoz, but have tried most attys. Here's a look at my best atty. It produces more vapor than bad's E2.
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It does its best at about 4.2 volts or better.

Sweet...do you have a lathe? ...man if I was still machining...*sigh*
 

BanjoMan

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I started out with a e-health knock-off I found on amazon.com. At first I thought it was pretty cool, but taking the carts apart to put maybe 5-6 drops of juice in them got old really fast (as did charging the batteries every 30 minutes). I still have those old e-cigs and will one day video myself shooting them for target practice.

The closest thing I have to the E2 are my Eastmall 510 cartomizers. They're cheap enough and they work "ok", but I only keep them for possible back-ups in case I run out of E2's. For all the complaining I've done about these they're still the only thing I've used for what, 2 months now?
 

br5495

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Thats it BR, i had enuogh, ITS ON, tomorow at 3pm in the ally, you bring your best and prepare for a vape-off

wait a second, thats not even a e2. your pulling out a 801 against my e2, that like pulling out a shotgun while im holding a watergun.

but just like a shotgun your 801 shoots maybe twice, meanwhile i would drown you with my watergun.(e2)

If you come to Texas, don't bring a knife to a gunfight. And my twice barrel shoot gun might reload a little quicker than you think.
 

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You sound like a Yankee to me.

Yup, to me, too.

Years ago, my dad had a bumper sticker that said, "I don't give a damn how you did it in New York." It was right below the sticker that said, "Native Floridian and proud of it." Keep in mind that he was an old man from the old South.
 

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Ok, for to calculate the resistance by awg size, look at the second chart in this link,

nichrome also comes in different flavors, just like juice can have a different percentage of pg or peg and vg, Wire Tronic in Volcano, California can make custom wires for you, but they do carry Nichrome A and Nichrome C, please take a moment to look at the wire info that you need for the given AWG size:

link:
Wire: Nichrome (tm) & Other Resistance Alloys - Tech Data
 

br5495

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SO now i was sitting back and after a full day of getting accustomed to using the e2 like I originaly remember how I should be using it and that is like a analog. So im laying back and vaping on this e2 with simple 1 or 2 second drags just like a analog and its just been performing so wonderfully that i fell into a moment of bliss, just fill and vape for hours and I dont need to stress myself and vape long huge drags, I did all that out of the horror and not becuase its needed.

Im at a very happy place right now witht the r4.
I'm glad you got to this point, son. I could have preached to you all day long about this attitude, but I knew it would not do any good. Now, maybe you will understand how I have been seeing things for some time time now.

I lucked out and found a flavor right away that tastes better than a cigarette. Sometimes I lay back and say out loud, "I like this thing. I mean I really LIKE it." I never did say that about a cigarette.

Now, let me tell you a bit more. You should know me well enough by now to know that I test things. Not just e-cig stuff, but on rare occasions I compare them with a real cigarette. Night before last I did just that. For the most part, the test is to find out how my current nicotine habit compares to an Ultra Light Cigarette.

There was no TH at all on the first few puffs. That's normal for this test, but I never really noticed it back when I was smoking. As the burn approached midway, the TH was about what I am accustomed to with an e-cig. By the time I put the .... out, the TH was too strong. This test told me that my habit is remaining about the same as always.

But here's the big thing. At no time was my smoke as much as my usual vapor. Nowhere near it. So when I vape, I don't give a damn how much vapor I see, and I don't want it to knock my socks off. The taste and a satisfying hit means more than anything else.
 

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OK, Br, so what's your dream setup? I want details: eliquid, atty (or carto), PV, the works! Please share.

Happy Birthday!
Oh golly. If I had a dream setup, it would probably be a nightmare for you. You asked for it, so here goes.

For the most part, I don't care to charge batteries and fill cartridges all day long. But then I don't want to be sucking on something about the size of a banana or a paperback novel. The Hello battery is about as large as I care to go. However, I enjoy using the mega 510 size for a change, even though it can keep a charger busy. That's what my wife uses, so we can mix them up. Of course, my PT is slim, and I have a variable power supply that works at any voltage that a coil will take and then some.

Naturally, I like the E2. I use the XL because it holds more, but that doesn't mean I like it better than the old regular size. Maybe I'll change my mind about that with the latest revision.

I hate to even tell you about the juice I use. It's supposed to be a tobacco flavor, but it doesn't taste like that to me. If the voltage is kept down, it has a sweet taste that I like. I buy 6mg Tobacco here:
E liquid Tobacco 50 ML , Menthol E Liquid 50 ML by E Cigarettes National

Then, there is my after dinner smoke that I look forward to. It's Salem Menthol and works better for me than an after dinner mint:
Tobacco Flavors
I have an E2 dedicated for it and it stays ready just in case I have a snack attack.

Now, if I have time to lay back and relax afterward, that's where the e-cigar atty comes into play. My tobacco flavor has a completely different taste with it at about 3 volts. The chamber is so large that it is a real cool and mild smoke. There's hardly any TH, but with all the vapor it produces, the nicotine it still there. If I don't pay attention, it will sneak up on me. And yeah, I'll have to admit, I like to see all that vapor on this one. That's just part of what a cigar is supposed to do.

After a while with that, it's goody, goody time. I'm back with my E2 and familiar old vape. But then, that's not all of the details and the whole works. I have to look after you kids and put up with all your chatter on an endless number of posts. So is that a dream or a nightmare? Sometimes I think maybe so, but then again, I don't know.
 

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BR can you machine something or know someone that can. i need a stem that like in the e2, the long tube metal one the cup sits on, then have a tiny flat pancake on either end but with a hole in the center to let air throuh, the pancakes need to be the size of the inside casing of the e2.

is something like that possible or who can do something like that
 

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Yep, I've done that too. Good old AMD, heheh.

I did something like this with an ibm(motorola) powerpc 603e.
I knew skin effect was vhf up ac (from arrl handbook) but what about hf pwm dc if notpassing a capacitor to fill the spikes or cut down the ripple? do these variable models use a output filter other than the resistance of the atty? If not does that effect the inductance of the atty? I don't have a variable cig or an oscilloscope. Just thoughts .... vastness of uni...mmm flue cured ....
 

br5495

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BR can you machine something or know someone that can. i need a stem that like in the e2, the long tube metal one the cup sits on, then have a tiny flat pancake on either end but with a hole in the center to let air throuh, the pancakes need to be the size of the inside casing of the e2.

is something like that possible or who can do something like that

Well, I could do it bad, but just about any machine shop can too if their equipment is not too large. Sounds like a simple lathe job to me if that's all there is to it.
 

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BR can you machine something or know someone that can. i need a stem that like in the e2, the long tube metal one the cup sits on, then have a tiny flat pancake on either end but with a hole in the center to let air throuh, the pancakes need to be the size of the inside casing of the e2.

is something like that possible or who can do something like that

Bad, for a prototype, would using the plastic 3ml syringe tube work?

In this picture you see the syringe tube section, and you see the black rubber off of the plunger, and the carto stem stem fits through the tube:

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badkolo

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that is perfect vjohn, thats exactly what i can use, i actually found a glass tube thats the perfect size, its a pipe crackheads use that has a tiny rose in it. but i dont have a way to cut glass.

so since i have spare syringes that would be perfect and easy to cut, and i could use the stoppers as is on either end to moc it.

thanks br, did not know i could have that done at a place like that, i will look up places near me and see if they will do it, its a simple for usre, its like the end of a trumpet but on both ends with a longer stem in between. but for now the i can make them from the mouth peace as well.
 

William W

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right, Bad, for now at least the syringe tube should hopefully work

here in the next pic you see I have ptb mods, but it can be the original wick, and on the pic below it
you can see the mouth part is an empty, hollow 808d1 carto

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Have you gone to have this patented yet?? Someone might just 'steal' your idea, patent it and mass manufacture it in China..LOL:danger:
 

br5495

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I did something like this with an ibm(motorola) powerpc 603e.
I knew skin effect was vhf up ac (from arrl handbook) but what about hf pwm dc if notpassing a capacitor to fill the spikes or cut down the ripple? do these variable models use a output filter other than the resistance of the atty? If not does that effect the inductance of the atty? I don't have a variable cig or an oscilloscope. Just thoughts .... vastness of uni...mmm flue cured ....

Man, you're getting way over my head here. A coil that size resonates at a certain frequency, and without an iron core it will have a sharp peak. There is always capacity involved, but I wouldn't want to guess what frequency it would set it at. I doubt if ripples or spikes would resonate at that frequency, but who knows what a harmonic would do. In my ignorance, I would say that any skin resistance involved from this kind of thing would be insignificant. That is, if there is any ripple there to begin with. Don't ask me if the variable models have an output filter, cause I don't know anything about them things. My eyesight can't hardly see that little biddy stuff, heheh.
 
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