You mean by your logic cold medicine,anti histamines and decongestant* that sells really good.you know more people but it then vg/pg don't believe me ask your wife she works in some great pharmacy she'll tell you
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My son plays football for the local high school and it's crazy how many great jobs he can get when others are dying for just a job in general.kids do make a lot of money now a days.
Juul asks regulators to stop 18 companies from selling lookalike e-cigarettes
As many as 30 companies in China are making clones of the juul and selling them on EBay. Yet juul is getting the majority of the blame for teen use of e-cigarettes by the FDA.
As many as 30 companies in China are making clones of the juul and selling them on EBay. Yet juul is getting the majority of the blame for teen use of e-cigarettes by the FDA.
It is not the teens.
You know where you don't hear about that? It's in countries with child labor happening. Maybe we should just reinstate THAT in the US. I mean, it's all the TEENS fault right and their terrible parents who give them to much money and etc. Yeah, let's just take them all down into the shoe factory here, then.
Freedom costs, including the GOVERNMENTAL tax of like, using your teen's stupidity against you, either directly or indirectly.
I don't believe teens have, or have ever had the ability to alter the government's path toward it's thing. They are using all teens against you. It's sad to see how many people buying it, especially given that the average adult commits a felony a day.
The hypocrisy is astounding and do not be deceived. If every teen were ushered down into a coal mine tomorrow, the government would still attack vaping.
It's easier to talk about teens. Feels manageable, right? If only the teen/parent/vendor etc. etc., circular ridiculous argument.
Teens are being teens their brains not done growing yet. Welcome to reality, your real enemy is not some KID but the gigantic complex never ending creature called "Politics" that is out to get you.
I know facing that fact is terrifying literally. This is why EVEN VAPERS are blaming the kiddos. Fear, chosen ignorance, and FEAR.
God, at this point, I'm not even crying SAVE VAPING, I am crying, "Knock of blaming the teens!" Because vaping will not be saved by vilifying them I know that 100%.
Anna
You know where you don't hear about that? It's in countries with child labor happening. Maybe we should just reinstate THAT in the US. I mean, it's all the TEENS fault right and their terrible parents who give them to much money and etc. Yeah, let's just take them all down into the shoe factory here, then.
Freedom costs, including the GOVERNMENTAL tax of like, using your teen's stupidity against you, either directly or indirectly.
I don't believe teens have, or have ever had the ability to alter the government's path toward it's thing. They are using all teens against you. It's sad to see how many people buying it, especially given that the average adult commits a felony a day.
The hypocrisy is astounding and do not be deceived. If every teen were ushered down into a coal mine tomorrow, the government would still attack vaping.
It's easier to talk about teens. Feels manageable, right? If only the teen/parent/vendor etc. etc., circular ridiculous argument.
Teens are being teens their brains not done growing yet. Welcome to reality, your real enemy is not some KID but the gigantic complex never ending creature called "Politics" that is out to get you.
I know facing that fact is terrifying literally. This is why EVEN VAPERS are blaming the kiddos. Fear, chosen ignorance, and FEAR.
God, at this point, I'm not even crying SAVE VAPING, I am crying, "Knock of blaming the teens!" Because vaping will not be saved by vilifying them I know that 100%.
Anna
Gotta push back! What if we dress ourselves up like scantly clad ecigs and march on Washington, lol.
I will agree pg/vg probably the least endangered items.
I find it odd that with all the FDA chest thumping over flavors, I have seen very little of the word nicotine thrown around, maybe just missed it. Of course total silence on a certain illegal substance which can be vaped. No surprise there.
I am not so confident with respect to flavors. Certainly they plan to put the DIY suppliers out of business. The food flavoring could be a bigger challenge for them. Tobacco flavors will be gone which is fascinating since candy and fruit flavors supposedly caused this uproar but will probably continue to be available.
I know some vapers avoid tobacco since it reminds them of cigs, others love it for the same reason.
I find it odd that with all the FDA chest thumping over flavors, I have seen very little of the word nicotine thrown around, maybe just missed it. Of course total silence on a certain illegal substance which can be vaped. No surprise there.
I am not so confident with respect to flavors. Certainly they plan to put the DIY suppliers out of business. The food flavoring could be a bigger challenge for them. Tobacco flavors will be gone which is fascinating since candy and fruit flavors supposedly caused this uproar but will probably continue to be available.
I know some vapers avoid tobacco since it reminds them of cigs, others love it for the same reason.
100% right, kids are doing what kids have always done.I started smoking at 11, almost 32 years ago stealing cigs from my grandma lol.found out my 17 year of started vaping about a year ago, #1 reason why he started because everyone was doing it and got the huge clouds.where did he get his device #1 answer him and his friends say (remember now this is coming from 10 kids mouths) vaper beast, vape 101 and vape d.n.a all American, all online and all authentic.they're going after online because that's where you can get them.but one thing I didn't know was you can get cigs online too.I swear I tired a couple years back couldn't find a page that looked trustworthy to buy from.just recently found that out from a YouTube reviewer.
you know that's funny i haven't read or heard of nic to much either.it's like the one thing that they would regulate they're not paying attention too.but they say tobacco is the only flavor that they're not going to ban at lest that's what the fda says.no clue about those rye 4 or 5 or whatever they're called.
Bj box mods, ( broadside) Kennedy vapor, rig mod, switch mods, purge mods, if you like squonk mods Reos mods, Kennedy ( again), or you could buy a box and door from shapeways and the rest of the parts from mod maker .co.uk very easy to make. And that's only a couple. Edit: you did say p.m. please forgive
Wow one of his friends name is "father" and he's been vaping that long?by the way I don't think that diy has anything to be scared of in anyway.I say just some more labeling.
Learn DIY- coil making, e-liquid making and even making simple mods its much easier than one thinks.
Only then the fda proposed rules will not scare you.
I just feel sorry for folks that cannot do the above because if the worse happens many go back to cigs.
Only then the fda proposed rules will not scare you.
I just feel sorry for folks that cannot do the above because if the worse happens many go back to cigs.
I'm of a mind that the FDA is working their way up to restricting nic to licensed businesses, just building their case one pod at a time.
That is because they don't have control over nicotine....yet. They tried a few years ago to have it classified as a drug but the judge threw it out. It was around the time they tried to seize china shipments and was told they could not do that either.
They are probably trying to do something behind the scenes or go in through the back door like it appears they are trying to do with the flavorings now. If they get a 'win' in shutting down internet sales then with that hurdle under their feet they will move onto nic.
Buy it while you can....
When and if any juice business/company applies to the fda for the deeming all they have to do is reject the application. That is how many business will cease to exist. The cannot ban food flavorings as it is too widely used in multiple businesses. As is pg/vg. Pg/Vg is used in multiple business and we use them everyday in our shampoo's, soaps,lotions, medicines......can't and won't happen.
As far as nicotine goes, see my previous post.
I think they're saving nic for last in a kind of black ops kind of way. Many will think, "Well, it's not that bad.... I can always DIY as a last resort," and then one day it will just be absent. But, I'm feeling a bit gloomy ATM for really no reason at all....
I'll march on Washington in almost any costume desired, as long as I can ride my horse and carry my sword, and wave it about. As long as I don't have to wear a pink hat that starts with the letter P. Even I have some standards, but I'm fine with either Police Officer Uniform (seems smart, blending in) or absolutely ANYTHING else, but I do have some standards. Naked is fine, the hat is TOTALLY unacceptable.
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I'll march on Washington in almost any costume desired, as long as I can ride my horse and carry my sword, and wave it about. As long as I don't have to wear a pink hat that starts with the letter P. Even I have some standards, but I'm fine with either Police Officer Uniform (seems smart, blending in) or absolutely ANYTHING else, but I do have some standards. Naked is fine, the hat is TOTALLY unacceptable.
Anna
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