Eleaf Lemo II
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You got me excited and made me dig out my calipers. The OD of the Lemo2 glass is 20.9mm. My drop measures 21.9. Damn! I really want the new features in a Drop form factor. Maybe they'll release one for the Christmas buying season.
ITC VG is thick like VG used to be. I gave my ITC juice away, it wicks like .... in a tank. They never heard of aqueous VG apparently. Any other max VG or 70vg should work fine. The VG I get from Bull City could be mistaken for pg almost, makes juice tailor made for a tank.
That is what I suspected.
Ahh. Gotcha, I have like 360ml on 70/30 in the mail, so that should help.
I am just not loving the Lemo 2. The chamber is too big for a 22mm tank and so is the chimney. On paper the larger chamber is great because you get more room to work on your build, but in practice you still have very little area for wick, the flavor takes a hit, and now the chamber is so close to the glass that unless you're vaping 50/50 or juice made with very thin vg it wicks slow and you have the same problem the ST Mini has, you have to baby it to not get dry hits. That's with enough wick in the chamber that it doesn't flood.
Now, if you wick real minimal, like what is optimal for an ST Mini, it wicks like a dream, but it is also always close to being on the flood-y end of the spectrum now.
I hate hate hate the build deck screws. I could not successfully capture 26ga or 24ga on one end of mine, and finally threw in the towel and captured the legs the way eleaf intended, which I do not like and I think increases the chance of distorting your coil during the build. I was unsuccessful getting a 26ga 2mm coil in and ended up doing a 3mm 24ga, which is easier to work with but I feel nowhere near the 26ga for flavor. You need to be extra vigilant about hot legs when you capture this way, and I started my build over from scratch out of frustration. This was after already ditching three builds using the deck screws to capture, so you can imagine what my frustration level was by this point.
I like how this tank looks, a lot. I like how this tank does not leak a drop. I like how this tank wicks with thinner juice. I like that I can dump more power to my build. I do not like the flavor. I do not like that the airflow is as restricted as the ST Mini. I do not like that vapor at the same power level is not as thick and dense as the ST Mini. I hate the build deck. In general, I think this is a very ST Mini-like performing tank, and I personally feel that the ST Mini does a better job than the Lemo 2 in just about everything.
I am going to go back to my minimal wick job like the first build I threw in this. I did prefer how it vaped, even though it danced around the edges of flood-y for me. With more wick in the chamber to make for a dryer vape, it does not wick as well and I don't like tasting wick every time I take a pull. Just not what I was looking for. What I really wanted was an ST Mini with more air, good wicking, and the ability to vape it at 30-50w. This isn't it and if I still feel that way in a week it goes to The Creature, who can then retire his Aqua v2 and its finicky build deck. I'll get a Cthulhu to complement my ST Minis and call it a day. I hope this isn't rant-y, I'm just frustrated with this tank and so far it is not what I was hoping for.
Now, if you wick real minimal, like what is optimal for an ST Mini, it wicks like a dream, but it is also always close to being on the flood-y end of the spectrum now.
I hate hate hate the build deck screws. I could not successfully capture 26ga or 24ga on one end of mine, and finally threw in the towel and captured the legs the way eleaf intended, which I do not like and I think increases the chance of distorting your coil during the build. I was unsuccessful getting a 26ga 2mm coil in and ended up doing a 3mm 24ga, which is easier to work with but I feel nowhere near the 26ga for flavor. You need to be extra vigilant about hot legs when you capture this way, and I started my build over from scratch out of frustration. This was after already ditching three builds using the deck screws to capture, so you can imagine what my frustration level was by this point.
I like how this tank looks, a lot. I like how this tank does not leak a drop. I like how this tank wicks with thinner juice. I like that I can dump more power to my build. I do not like the flavor. I do not like that the airflow is as restricted as the ST Mini. I do not like that vapor at the same power level is not as thick and dense as the ST Mini. I hate the build deck. In general, I think this is a very ST Mini-like performing tank, and I personally feel that the ST Mini does a better job than the Lemo 2 in just about everything.
I am going to go back to my minimal wick job like the first build I threw in this. I did prefer how it vaped, even though it danced around the edges of flood-y for me. With more wick in the chamber to make for a dryer vape, it does not wick as well and I don't like tasting wick every time I take a pull. Just not what I was looking for. What I really wanted was an ST Mini with more air, good wicking, and the ability to vape it at 30-50w. This isn't it and if I still feel that way in a week it goes to The Creature, who can then retire his Aqua v2 and its finicky build deck. I'll get a Cthulhu to complement my ST Minis and call it a day. I hope this isn't rant-y, I'm just frustrated with this tank and so far it is not what I was hoping for.
I feel pretty much the same way about the lemo 2. I think it was a bone head move to reduce the diameter of the lemo, but not reduce the diameter of the build deck, they really messed up there. The build deck is huge for no reason, and I agree there is simply not enough room between the evaporation chamber barrel and the glass tube to allow for higher VG to feed the wicks properly.
I also feel like they should have reduced the giant pointless chimney from the OG lemo, and made it more similar to the diameter of the center pin airflow hole. There is no reason to have a 6mm chimney or whatever it is with a 3.4mm center pin airflow. They should have either increased the airflow to match the chimney more (which I would have prefered), or reduced it down to maybe 4mm.
What could have been a great tank, misses the mark for me, not enough airflow, juice flow to channels is too restricted, giant flavor stealing pointless chimney, and dumb two piece base design. I don't know how people rave about this thing.
took the juice out with a syringe and trimmed my wick down. Wicks fine now, but the flavor it produces does not justify how much juice this tank drinks. Cthulhu ordered.
Make sure you guys are using the right gasket at the base, they are different top to bottom, and using the wrong one could affect the juice channels. If I wick the lemo 2 like a ST mini, it will flood and leak...I have to use more cotton, and fluffing the edges of the cotton is necessary for me to get it to wick properly. I use 40/60 juice though...
I'm using the smaller o-ring at the base, I just guessed on that being the correct one, as in my haste to clean it, I didn't note the o-ring placement well. Is that correct?
I don't recall which one I use where, but if you look at the top cap and base, you can tell which has the larger diameter and then use the appropriate seal...when I first got the Lemo 2 I just assumed they were the same.
Gotcha, well I'm assuming it is correct. It is not obstructing the juice channels at all, so I'm thinking its good there.
The smaller seal goes in the top cap, the larger in the base.
With there being some play in the Lemo with the glass, I guess I just assumed that 1 mm diff it would fit. I'm pretty sure some glass tubes could be purchased that would fit. Colored ones as well.
My Lemo 2 is working well with 30/70 PG?VG juice. I like the top fill port (and you really need it,due to the smaller capacity of the tank). I use a 3.4 mm screw driver shank to wind my coils on and "wick it chunky" cutting the ends of the wick just above the RTA's side wall top edges,then rolling the ends down into the RTA. No dry hits ever! I think the bigger wick size helps with the juice flow through the coil. It's a "juice hog" though,and a larger tank would be a big improvement.
30/70 here as well...3 mm twisted 26 Kanthal coil @.4 - .5 ohms and am very happy with the performance. Tried to post an offer to buy unwanted Lemo2's and drip tips in the classifieds but keep getting a server error message.
I want to like this tank so I keep trying. I ripped the 2mm 26ga coil I put in it yesterday afternoon out and put in a 3mm twisted 28ga build. Flavor is better with 26ga, but can't wick fast enough with the 2mm coil. The 3mm coil wicks fine. As far as wicking, I find that if I wick it like I wick a Subtank rba the extra wick from using a 3mm coil on the Lemo 2 keeps it from getting flood-y. The twisted 28ga makes throwing a coil on this deck using the stock holes a lot easier than regular 24ga IMO. Doesn't leak a drop. Wicks. Flavor is muted. If I'd never vaped a Subtank I'd think the Lemo 2 was fantastic. As it is, in a lot of ways I like it better than the Subtank, but the flavor is a pretty big deal breaker. I am going to keep vaping it and try a twisted 26ga build. Very much a love-hate relationship going on with this tank here.
im in the exact same boat as you. I've been trying a number of different coils and wicking and I'm finding that everyone is giving me muted flavour. I've also tried differ pg/vg ratios and still the same.
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