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kiwivap

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They could always use different colored LEDs (it already changes color per the news report.) One color could mean...change carto, another could mean charge battery. Or a blink pattern. Whatever. We don't know yet.

The Canadians have said they are on the shelves. However, that may be a disposable test system...not the "real" thing. The Greek's review was with a disposable too. We'll see more soon in the rollout.

The "real" one isn't a disposable. It recharges. That's good too. So is the recycling, IMO. Those are smart plays, IMHO.

It is sounding more and more like those color coded egos. Except its not vv - right?
 
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I don't think it's USER SELECTABLE vv, anyway.

DaveP...Here's another link to an article. It includes a video that talks about the micorprocess in the battery and also the "memory" in the carto.....for the "digital vapor e-cig".

Reynolds Unveils National Rollout of Vuse - Tobacco - Convenience Store News

It's getting confusing because we have multiple threads on this topic. That link came from here:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...igarette-but-will-any-good-8.html#post9749849

ETA: Here's the direct-youtube link.
 
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I don't think it's USER SELECTABLE vv, anyway.

DaveP...Here's another link to an article. It includes a video that talks about the micorprocess in the battery and also the "memory" in the carto.....for the "digital vapor e-cig".

Reynolds Unveils National Rollout of Vuse - Tobacco - Convenience Store News

It's getting confusing because we have multiple threads on this topic. That link came from here:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...igarette-but-will-any-good-8.html#post9749849

It will be interesting to see if they incorporated a fuse that is popped by the MP (it looks like they have a counter that disables the carto after 200 puffs). I'm betting that someone will reverse engineer this thing and find a way to reset it VIA USB to refill it and make it work again. All those corporate manufacture inkjet carts do similar things, but refillers find a way or develop a compatible cart that the printer will accept. I'm big on Amazon sold carts for my Brother 635DW Printer and my Mother's HP 6100. I typically get 3 blacks and 2 to 3 each of the color carts for around $30. They work well.

ejuice is Ejuice. Someone will find a way to cheat RJ's. ;)
 
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It will be interesting to see if they incorporated a fuse that is popped by the MP (it looks like they have a counter that disables the carto after 200 puffs).

If a carto really last that long. So.. what happens if some-ones changes the carto? Does the hit counter reset and start again? The processor in the battery picks up a new processor in the carto?

ETA: Ok, I've seen the video you added now Attypops - thanks.
 
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My wife has had an on and off relationship with ecigs. The cost is high, but she might be interested in this thing if it delivers 200 good puffs on a carto for $3. She has a 510 and an eGo. The eGo is not her favorite because she doesn't like the size. The 510 is iffy with a cart and too long with a carto on the end. I guess size does matter!

200 puffs might be economical for her. It takes her about 3 days to get through a pack of cigs. $1 a day might sell for people like her.
 

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My wife has had an on and off relationship with ecigs. The cost is high, but she might be interested in this thing if it delivers 200 good puffs on a carto for $3. She has a 510 and an eGo. The eGo is not her favorite because she doesn't like the size. The 510 is iffy with a cart and too long with a carto on the end. I guess size does matter!

200 puffs might be economical for her. It takes her about 3 days to get through a pack of cigs. $1 a day might sell for people like her.

Who knows? Might be great for her.

Has she tried the 808's with small cartos? They've been around for years.

Just due to economic factors...If I wanted a cig-a-like, I'd consider the refillable cartos 1st. But that's me. Like I've said before, I vape for about 20 cents per day using refillable/rebuildable stuff (510 connectors). So all the pre-filled stuff is ....more expensive to me. And I DIY juice..so it's "fresh" too.
 

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I caught that too. It started with wv2win's post. I see it so often. Conservatives are ALWAYS on the edge, always quick to criticize anyone who thinks outside of their box. Terrorist....Communist.....Liberal.....etc etc. All names branded by the elite, meant to separate the populace and make us weaker...........................


Government never solved anything. It is a necessary evil, and our very FOUNDING fathers UNDERSTOOD THIS. That is WHY the constitution was drafted. That is WHY this country was originally designed the way it was. By free masons, no less. They didn't want a bunch of wealthy elitists, dominating the media outlets, the government, the politics, and the lives of the average American person. They wanted our government to play a MINIMAL role in our lives..............................

Anyway, I've said enough :)

/rant over

First, this brings to mind the old term: "the kettle calling the pot black". I point out that a previous post ONLY singled out Fox news as being a "faux" news organization but ignored the bais on the other side of the political specturm in news organizations like MSNBC. And then you infer that I am a Conservative and that Conservatives are "ALWAYS" on the edge and quick to critcize. If you really believed your diatribe later in your post, you would not have been "one-sided" in those comments or inferred that I am a Conservative. But the incongruity of your comments have escaped you. If you had stated that BOTH extremes are quick to critcize, your later comments would have more validity. But I suspect we know why you didn't.

Second, if you really understood history and read the political beliefs of Washington and Alexander Hamilton and the actions of Thomas Jefferson (regardless of his writings) and John Adams, you would understand they were strong supporters of stong, central and intrusive government. John Adams signed into law the Alien & Sedition Act of 1798, no less!!

Your "rant" has many holes in it.
 

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Well, I dislike that this has become a political conservative/liberal rant thread that is totally off topic of the vuse.

However, the founding fathers are dust...and their views are.....subject to everyone's interpretation in several ambiguous areas. I love how both "sides" quote the "Founding Fathers" as supporting their views. As if things haven't changed and gotten more complex over time.

wv2win...I basically agree with what you just posted, BTW so I'm not slamming either point of view. Other than the fact that this political discussion can go on forever and won't help us understand the VUSE.
 

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Has she tried the 808's with small cartos? They've been around for years.

Just due to economic factors...If I wanted a cig-a-like, I'd consider the refillable cartos 1st. .

One reason I switched from prefilled to refillable was economic. I used Greensmoke for a while when I was new to vaping. They worked, but for a heavy smoker switched to vaping I wasn't saving money. Another was for more e-juice choices.
Some people won't mind buying proprietary threaded prefills tho. They are extremely convenient - just screw on a carto and vape.
 

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Critical thought is the skill needed in schools these days. That said, I'm impressed with the skills that my 7 year old nephew has gleaned from the system. He's in an accelerated program and he is an exceptionally bright kid. I think that school is much what the kids and the parents make of it. I graduated from high school in 1969, back when schools were said to be "better". Even then, it was parents who made the difference. Teachers produced great students who went on to college and into business, but in every case there were parents who helped to inspire the kid to excel. Those kids with parents who didn't play a part in the child's development found themselves with kids who floundered and failed.

Education needs families to back up the process by which children are educated. Without that, don't expect much from the system.

It's unfortunate IMO, that college/university education has diminished the value of a "true" liberal arts education. An education that requires students to take a well rounded curriculum along with a specific major. When I was in college we were required to take a year of Philosopy (including Logic), Literature and Critical Writing along with our specific major. At the time, I didn't like those requirements but now realize their benefit.
 

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I think it's interesting that I disparage the integrity of faux news and everybody assumes I'm a liberal who reads nothing but the Huffington post and watches Rachel Maddow, especially since they themselves admit fox is biased. Back to the actual topic though, My concerns over RJR making an e-cig would be the additional chemicals they'll add and the child marketing they've done all along with the analogs

Well yes Fox does tend to be biased toward Conservative values. But what those other channels are doing dosen't seem to have a true word for it anymore. Hard BIAS, cheer leading, the current administration can do no wrong and anyone the disagrees is a RACIST. Shoot, MSNBC came right out, as of late, and admitted that News isn't what they are about.

I want News, not biased opinions on a liberal/progressive slant, or Tingles up my flipping leg (for crying out loud!).
 

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One reason I switched from prefilled to refillable was economic. I used Greensmoke for a while when I was new to vaping. They worked, but for a heavy smoker switched to vaping I wasn't saving money. Another was for more e-juice choices.
Some people won't mind buying proprietary threaded prefills tho. They are extremely convenient - just screw on a carto and vape.

Yep!
If you think about it...cigs are...pretty reliable. Even with paper wrappers like that...how many cigs actually had holes in them or something wasn't glued properly? The reject rate was real low. Basically they all "worked". And were very convenient.

That's part of what they are...marketing...with this. "It just works" methodology. At least, that's my take on it. But "it ain't free", as they say. lol.

OH! OH! The recycle program! I JUST HAD A BRAINSTORM!. That memory in the carto could be used to track vaping habits and refine the product too. In other words....monitoring use. So they could get data back from those recycled cartos. Hmmmm........ Batteries too. Hmmmm.........

The eVic already has user data ports on it. You can pull up data about your vaping. The concept is not without precedent.

And it's a good way to monitor use and quality control.

lol.
 

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OH! OH! The recycle program! I JUST HAD A BRAINSTORM!. That memory in the carto could be used to track vaping habits and refine the product too. In other words....monitoring use. So they could get data back from those recycled cartos. Hmmmm........ Batteries too. Hmmmm.........
lol.

Maybe in the future they will put a GPS microchip in them so they can report to the government who is using them, where they are using them and send all that info so your health rates go up. After all somebody has to pay for Obamacare. :laugh:


I have to stop, I told myself that I wouldn't get into the political side of this.
 

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Well, I dislike that this has become a political conservative/liberal rant thread that is totally off topic of the vuse.

However, the founding fathers are dust...and their views are.....subject to everyone's interpretation in several ambiguous areas. I love how both "sides" quote the "Founding Fathers" as supporting their views. As if things haven't changed and gotten more complex over time.

wv2win...I basically agree with what you just posted, BTW so I'm not slamming either point of view. Other than the fact that this political discussion can go on forever and won't help us understand the VUSE.

Thanks for the comments, Atty and I agree with you. It would be better if this was only about the Vuse. There are better threads for discussions on the political issues surrounding vaping. It would be nice if more ECF members would pay attention to the experts in the Harm Reduction arena and their inside understanding of which political persuasion is more apt to leave vaping as it is and which is more apt to restrict it. But many can't see beyond their bias.
 
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Legitimize = Have the FDA regulate e-cigs and nic so big tobacco can squeeze the little guy out.


There I go again, I have to stop the politics.

The woman in the other video made a point of saying she respects the FDAs authoritah!
Have I just got political?

Its your fault.
 
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