GP Series by VapourArt - Official Thread for GP Spheroid

Status
Not open for further replies.

qorax

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 6, 2013
12,652
41,477
Brampton, Canada
www.facebook.com
I need to stop looking at your coils Qorax. They make me jealous. I think I'm going to have to try and make a coil jig in work tonight. I figured out a design in my head that should help me make better coils for those tiny wires on tiny bases. Sometimes working in a CNC shop pays off! It also comes in handy for refinishing.

Thanks buddy!
Pls make that jig, and I'll pick one from you ~ I need one as well :)
 

Hrathor

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Oct 27, 2011
851
1,175
54
Canton, MI
Thanks buddy!
Pls make that jig, and I'll pick one from you ~ I need one as well :)
It won't be anything pretty but will allow for hands free torching. Not more than an hours worth of work, but may take a few days to get to depending on whats going on. Or staying after work...
What size wrap do you like?
I'm thinking I might try to have a multi-gauge rod made up. But I might be thinking too hard.
 

qorax

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 6, 2013
12,652
41,477
Brampton, Canada
www.facebook.com
It won't be anything pretty but will allow for hands free torching. Not more than an hours worth of work, but may take a few days to get to depending on whats going on. Or staying after work...
What size wrap do you like?
I'm thinking I might try to have a multi-gauge rod made up. But I might be thinking too hard.

Whatever size, as long as it remains "microcoil" :)

Microcoil Size Chart, Better.jpg
 

Hrathor

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Oct 27, 2011
851
1,175
54
Canton, MI
OK, so I had all my tooling ready...and it occurred to me there was a much easier way to do it. It's a pretty cheap DIY if anyone wants to try. Once I get the parts I can do some pics if anyone is interested. All you need is
1x2x3 blocks (AKA set up blocks or machinist's blocks) drilled and tapped (usually you buy them in a pair for less than $20, so 1 for you, 1 for a friend)
3 cap head screws
5 nuts (thin)
1 nut (fat)
The only actual work involved is turning down 1 cap head screw and drilling a hole the size you want your coil to be. Put one screw in, skip a hole, put the other screw in. Add two thin nuts to each one to trap your leads. You place the turned down screw in between, lock it down with the fat nut, and you're done. Trap 1 lead, wrap it, squeeze it down and tighten, trap the other lead. Torch away. I think I'll be able to get one done tonight at work. I had to watch 2 hours of safety video's last night that cut into my project time.
I suck at conveying information...I hope it makes sense.
James
 

perseas

Unregistered Supplier
ECF Veteran
Dec 11, 2011
3,442
17,927
Athens, Hellas
www.vapourart.com
Fixed the problem! The Spheroid now shows up fine!!!!! :)

Question, how can I order GVC bottles larger than 50ml from you?

Send an email to info@vapourart.com and ask for it, referring our discussion here. We may find them tomorrow morning for you.
 
Last edited:

dmska

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 9, 2011
1,610
5,139
OK, so I had all my tooling ready...and it occurred to me there was a much easier way to do it. It's a pretty cheap DIY if anyone wants to try. Once I get the parts I can do some pics if anyone is interested. All you need is
1x2x3 blocks (AKA set up blocks or machinist's blocks) drilled and tapped (usually you buy them in a pair for less than $20, so 1 for you, 1 for a friend)
3 cap head screws
5 nuts (thin)
1 nut (fat)
The only actual work involved is turning down 1 cap head screw and drilling a hole the size you want your coil to be. Put one screw in, skip a hole, put the other screw in. Add two thin nuts to each one to trap your leads. You place the turned down screw in between, lock it down with the fat nut, and you're done. Trap 1 lead, wrap it, squeeze it down and tighten, trap the other lead. Torch away. I think I'll be able to get one done tonight at work. I had to watch 2 hours of safety video's last night that cut into my project time.
I suck at conveying information...I hope it makes sense.
James
I know you said your home-made jig was "easy" but your skill level is way above mine.
 

Hrathor

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Oct 27, 2011
851
1,175
54
Canton, MI
I know you said your home-made jig was "easy" but your skill level is way above mine.

I have a gorillas IQ! I have a prototype done. You'll see how easy it is. Only 1 part needs tools to make, and I can do that part for you in 2 minutes. Give me an hour or two and I'll put up pics. Maybe even a nice looking microcoil...
 

Hrathor

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Oct 27, 2011
851
1,175
54
Canton, MI
20140312_020009.jpg
20140313_094810.jpg
This is after firing it up
20140312_020029.jpg
20140313_093724.jpg
Yeah, you're not gonna be using brown and sharpe blocks. These are $60-80. The cheapest china made I have found so far is $15 US/pair
20140313_093755.jpg
The center rod with the drill bit in it is the only piece requiring any work. All it is is a 3/8-16 threaded rod with a hole drilled in the end. If anyone wants to make one of these and can't do this step due to lack of tools, knowledge, whatever...I'll do it for you and get it in the mail. Seriously takes 30 seconds if you have a drill press/vise.

Total cost is less than $10, no wait list!
It took me 2 minutes to wrap the coil and torch it. With tweezers (Ahem, chadsmo! /wave) it would have took me a month of Sunday's after it flying off the tweezers, me clamping it too hard, dropping it, etc.
Less than 5 minutes to put everything together, so it's a small, cheap project if you need a third hand for coil builds.
James
 

qorax

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 6, 2013
12,652
41,477
Brampton, Canada
www.facebook.com
^Hi James, seems quite some effort you've put in there. Nice job buddy!

Here's few things we need:
a) Can you orient the pic and post it again, so that we 'see' it better.
b) The jig looks overwhelming ~ anyway it could be made to 'look' simpler?
c) What those other holes are about? Is it a default wasted space, or has a purpose?
d) Also, the coiling process is not clear. We could do with an explanatory vid or a descriptive pictorial.

Awaiting your response/s brother.
 

Hrathor

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Oct 27, 2011
851
1,175
54
Canton, MI
^Hi James, seems quite some effort you've put in there. Nice job buddy!

Here's few things we need:
a) Can you orient the pic and post it again, so that we 'see' it better.
b) The jig looks overwhelming ~ anyway it could be made to 'look' simpler?
c) What those other holes are about? Is it a default wasted space, or has a purpose?
d) Also, the coiling process is not clear. We could do with an explanatory vid or a descriptive pictorial.

Awaiting your response/s brother.
Just some quick notes before I go to sleep (I work midnight - 8am)
a) I'll try to get some better ones posted Friday morning
b) My initial plan, machining from stock, would make it look less busy, but it would have the same functionality and I would have to do 100% of the work and charge more than I think it would be worth. The blocks come pre-machined with drilled and tapped holes which is probably making it look over complicated. It only needs 3 holes. 2 for clamping the wire ends, and the one in the center to hold the rod you are wrapping your coil on. And really the 2nd clamp is not needed if you don't plan to torch it on the jig. So, you can basically ignore every hole that doesn't have something sticking out of it (insert joke here).
c) Answered above
d) I'll briefly go over wrapping here, until I can get the more detailed pics. But 1 of the pics above is quite a bit more helpful:
20140313_094810.jpg
The 2 bolts on either side are using jam nuts to trap your wire leads. When wrapping it might initially be easier to remove the second bolt to wrap the wire. The drill bit is what you are wrapping your coil on. It is centered on a short piece of drill rod with a hole drilled in the end. After you trap 1 end of the wire, pull it across to the coiling rod. If you put your thumb against the rod you can pull your wire back into itself while winding it to get a nice tight wrap. Once you get your desired number of wraps, you can trap the end you have left between the jam nuts and torch it/compress it more, or you can remove it and finish it on your mod however you choose.

I hope this helps to make it a little more clear. Maybe I'll do a vid in the morning. If nothing else people will probably find it amusing that a troll is trying to teach class!
 

qorax

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 6, 2013
12,652
41,477
Brampton, Canada
www.facebook.com
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread