Heather's Heavenly Vapes - THE BIG THREAD (Part 6)

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But let's face it, the days of REOVille and the ProVarinati Saloon are long gone.

I never bought any because of the cost, the mechanical aspect and the fact I didn't know if I'd even like squonking as a whole.

I bought the pulse because it's a mechanical, has a kill switch, and was inexpensive to try out and see if I found squonking enjoyable. (dropping a buck fifty on a "I don't know" isn't a financially feasible option in my opinion.. lol)

I figured this year I'd go ahead and buy a REO or even two.

I think people are looking to a different future. Getting into all the pod mod stuff and accepting that the vapocalypse will never come, so ease of use and idiot proof vaping is king.

REO isn't idiot proof .. Even I wanted to make certain I wasn't an idiot before purchasing.. Still not sure I'm not.. haha
 

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Hey @LAwaters , I have a question for you.

Is the Blackberry Mango ejuice as well as the Blackberry ejuice sweet?

I was desirous of getting some ejuice, and wanted to go for something different.

My second favorite thing in the whole world is blackberry cobbler so I'm wondering if the Blackberry was like a cobbler with no crust or like eating a blackberry from the vine?
 

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I never knew about the hair standing up aspect. I read about how you should crouch down on the balls of your feet in an article about someone who was injured by downed power lines and what to do if that happens. Never thought about it applying to lightning.

I’m just not gonna leave the house anymore. ;)

When I was a teenager, I was in an open field on a big tractor plowing with a chisel plow in the ground. A storm blew up and the lightning got pretty bad. So I raised the chisel plow out of the ground so that no part of the tractor or plow was touching the ground except the rubber tires.

The tractor had dual rear wheels on it, and the wheel well was large enough that I could get in it. And that's exactly what I did since the tractor had no cab to protect me.

About the time I got inside the wheel well, the hair on my arms stood on end and my mouth got an alkaline taste like I had licked a battery. About that time, a bolt of lightning hit about 50 feet from the tractor. It sounded like the apocalypse, and scared the crappola out of me.

So I can confirm the hair raising part of it.
 

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Whe I bought mine, I found the decisions to be rather daunting, the whole concept was new to me. I got a lot of advice by a fellow by the name of @Papa_Lazarou. He was most helpful and I followed his advice. I was not led astray. I have rarely strayed from squonking though I have strayed from REO.

I never bought any because of the cost, the mechanical aspect and the fact I didn't know if I'd even like squonking as a whole.

I bought the pulse because it's a mechanical, has a kill switch, and was inexpensive to try out and see if I found squonking enjoyable. (dropping a buck fifty on a "I don't know" isn't a financially feasible option in my opinion.. lol)

I figured this year I'd go ahead and buy a REO or even two.

I think people are looking to a different future. Getting into all the pod mod stuff and accepting that the vapocalypse will never come, so ease of use and idiot proof vaping is king.

REO isn't idiot proof .. Even I wanted to make certain I wasn't an idiot before purchasing.. Still not sure I'm not.. haha
 

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Did the guy who swallowed up what was left of REO ever make anything of it?

I regularly visit the REO forum, I feel that I am watching the slow agonizing end of the company. Kind of sad, in a way. I think there will be little innovation there.
 

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I regularly visit the REO forum, I feel that I am watching the slow agonizing end of the company. Kind of sad, in a way. I think there will be little innovation there.
Yes, it is sad. There were a lot of dedicated Reonauts. I think that had to do as much with Rob as the product. When Rob bowed out it just sort of lost its steam. Kind of a shame. I guess it doesn't help that mechanicals are fading too. There sure was a rush for mechanicals there for awhile. REO was right in the middle of it. And of course there are lots of squonking options too. Rob probably saw a lot of this coming and it had to weigh in his decision.
 

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Yes, it is sad. There were a lot of dedicated Reonauts. I think that had to do as much with Rob as the product. When Rob bowed out it just sort of lost its steam. Kind of a shame. I guess it doesn't help that mechanicals are fading too. There sure was a rush for mechanicals there for awhile. REO was right in the middle of it. And of course there are lots of squonking options too. Rob probably saw a lot of this coming and it had to weigh in his decision.

I agree, I think Robert E had foresight at the time of REO's beginning and in its ending.
 

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I agree, I think Robert E had foresight at the time of REO's beginning and in its ending.
Perhaps he always intended it to be a short term proposition. Make a big splash and then get out while the getting out is good. That's what ProVape did. They made a killing and decided to take their cash and run rather than play another hand.
 

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I think both saw the market changing and a nanny state government climate on the rise. Major changes would cost money that may never be recovered. Like a line from that old song, "Know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em". I think both companies took that line to heart.

Perhaps he always intended it to be a short term proposition. Make a big splash and then get out while the getting out is good. That's what ProVape did. They made a killing and decided to take their cash and run rather than play another hand.
 

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I think both saw the market changing and a nanny state government climate on the rise. Major changes would cost money that may never be recovered. Like a line from that old song, "Know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em". I think both companies took that line to heart.
I know safety was always paramount to ProVape...almost to a fault. As far as I know they never had any major lawsuits filed against them in all the time they were in operation. I think they wanted to keep it that way and also influenced their decision to head for the hills. Safety is much more achievable with a controlled mod like a Provari versus a mechanical mod like a REO. One has to wonder if safety/lawsuits factored into Rob's decision to get out as well.
 

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I find the whole vape scene to have moved on. A few years ago, REO's and Provari's were dynasties in here... and 'here' was hopping. Catfish and boutique mod makers were in high demand as well.

It was more nascent and resource sites like this were necessary. These days, mods and toppers of any shape and size can be had for far less than a provari or REO, and plug and play vaping is de rigueur. Squonking is no longer a dark art practised by a small cognoscenti, subohming is the norm, and a 20W max mod is laughably short of the expected standard.

It appears to be the age of the $50 hotrod and facebook, rather than the milspec handcrafted mod and ECF.
 

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I know safety was always paramount to ProVape...almost to a fault. As far as I know they never had any major lawsuits filed against them in all the time they were in operation. I think they wanted to keep it that way and also influenced their decision to head for the hills. Safety is much more achievable with a controlled mod like a Provari versus a mechanical mod like a REO. One has to wonder if safety/lawsuits factored into Rob's decision to get out as well.

Could be, with the trend (not followed by me) to very low ohm vaping, I am sure he envisioned a lunatic with a single 18350 vaping at 0.2 ohm with a crap battery - fire. I am sure that there is insurance for such things but one would probably end up in the London market paying a lot of money. And, who wants the hassle of endless depositions and consulting with lawyers every week?
 

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It has changed, as a neanderthal from the cave days, I have not evolved much beyond the builds and wattage I used when I became serious about quitting cigarettes by vaping.

I find the whole vape scene to have moved on. A few years ago, REO's and Provari's were dynasties in here... and 'here' was hopping. Catfish and boutique mod makers were in high demand as well.

It was more nascent and resource sites like this were necessary. These days, mods and toppers of any shape and size can be had for far less than a provari or REO, and plug and play vaping is de rigueur. Squonking is no longer a dark art practised by a small cognoscenti, subohming is the norm, and a 20W max mod is laughably short of the expected standard.

It appears to be the age of the $50 hotrod and facebook, rather than the milspec handcrafted mod and ECF.
 

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I find the whole vape scene to have moved on. A few years ago, REO's and Provari's were dynasties in here... and 'here' was hopping. Catfish and boutique mod makers were in high demand as well.

It was more nascent and resource sites like this were necessary. These days, mods and toppers of any shape and size can be had for far less than a provari or REO, and plug and play vaping is de rigueur. Squonking is no longer a dark art practised by a small cognoscenti, subohming is the norm, and a 20W max mod is laughably short of the expected standard.

It appears to be the age of the $50 hotrod and facebook, rather than the milspec handcrafted mod and ECF.
Back when ProVape and REO were making their mark, there were many less mod options versus today. You're exactly right. We've seen a giant explosion of choices in the last few years. Prior, you could spend $200 on a Provari and get as good as the market offered or you could spend $30 on a Lavatube and basically get a clunker. There really wasn't any (or many) decent quality mods at an intermediate price. Boy has that changed! As you allude, it is hard to see a ProVape or REO thriving (or even surviving) in today's market. And I didn't even mention the age of the pods which seem to be dominating these days.
 

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There seems to be cyclical phenomenon to the vaping. Juul is popular and it kind of reminds me of Green Smoke and V2, few variations, propitiatory and disposable. Gennies and screen coils are on the rise after being dormant for a while. I keep plugging along, one 18350, around 3.6 Amps and 9 - 12 Watts, I refuse to come out of my cave and join the modern world. Gutenberg started the whole mess with that printing press of his.

Back when ProVape and REO were making their mark, there were many less mod options versus today. You're exactly right. We've seen a giant explosion of choices in the last few years. Prior, you could spend $200 on a Provari and get as good as the market offered or you could spend $30 on a Lavatube and basically get a clunker. There really wasn't any (or many) decent quality mods at an intermediate price. Boy has that changed! As you allude, it is hard to see a ProVape or REO thriving (or even surviving) in today's market. And I didn't even mention the age of the pods which seem to be dominating these days.
 

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There seems to be cyclical phenomenon to the vaping. Juul is popular and it kind of reminds me of Green Smoke and V2, few variations, propitiatory and disposable. Gennies and screen coils are on the rise after being dormant for a while. I keep plugging along, one 18350, around 3.6 Amps and 9 - 12 Watts, I refuse to come out of my cave and join the modern world. Gutenberg started the whole mess with that printing press of his.
I'm with you. I find something I like and I have to have a good reason to change from it. There are simply too many fads that come and go. I got entangled in that frenzy for awhile before realizing I was out of control. I did the same thing with sampling juices. I tried so many different ones and that got old too. I'll make a switch if I see something that has been trialed and tested. Temp control is one of those things. I was not an early adopter of it. But I saw it stick so had to believe there was something to it. Then a couple years ago I gave it a whirl and was glad I did.

BTW, those gennies with screen coils represent one of the goofier things I encountered. Never dealt with anything more finicky. I believe that was the beginning of my transformation into reclaiming control of myself. :)
 

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It was a long time before I started saving all that money I thought I would save. I have a lot of stuff just sitting around rusting in the rain, some of it stupidly expensive. I did not get to the Gennies, it did not seem like something I would "cotton" to. But I have a blue billion latest, greatest other attys.

I'm with you. I find something I like and I have to have a good reason to change from it. There are simply too many fads that come and go. I got entangled in that frenzy for awhile before realizing I was out of control. I did the same thing with sampling juices. I tried so many different ones and that got old too. I'll make a switch if I see something that has been trialed and tested. Temp control is one of those things. I was not an early adopter of it. But I saw it stick so had to believe there was something to it. Then a couple years ago I gave it a whirl and was glad I did.

BTW, those gennies with screen coils represent one of the goofier things I encountered. Never dealt with anything more finicky. I believe that was the beginning of my transformation into reclaiming control of myself. :)
 

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