Heather's Heavenly Vapes - THE BIG THREAD (Part 6)

[Bronze]

Are you going to share your solution with us?

Trump should declare a national emergency and build the wall he and the border patrol wants. Upon his declaration, have the Senate GOP introduce a standalone bill that provides the dreamer extension Trump offered up last weekend plus legislation reopening the government. The bill will surely pass and with unanimous Democrat support. So Trump gets his wall. The Dreamers get their extension. And the federal employees go back to work. The hard left will crucify Trump for the national emergency but they'll crucify him anyway so no loss there. At the same time, he makes friends with the dreamers for getting legislation he did not have to do and comes off as being conciliatory.

 

[Rockford]

 

[kkay59]

I thought we have actually been in a national state of emergency since 9-11-2001. Every president since then has renewed it. I believe Trump will follow suit.

 

[CMD-Ky]

I am in total despair, politically speaking; I thought 1968 was a bad year. I was twenty-three, entering my first year at the University of Kentucky and watched as a building was burnt down in protest while seeking peace, riots in the cities for justice, political shootings for who knows why. Division was palpable and violent. I won't be around for the worst of the continuing societal disintegration and to witness the ultimate rise of a totalitarian in a desperate search for elusive order. But my thirty year old daughter will be.

One of our founding fathers observed that a republic can only exist if the people are moral. Morality is now described only in political terms, right and wrong depends only upon one's political "side".

Orwell wrote his works as a warning; they are becoming a sad reality.

Trump should declare a national emergency and build the wall he and the border patrol wants. Upon his declaration, have the Senate GOP introduce a standalone bill that provides the dreamer extension Trump offered up last weekend plus legislation reopening the government. The bill will surely pass and with unanimous Democrat support. So Trump gets his wall. The Dreamers get their extension. And the federal employees go back to work. The hard left will crucify Trump for the national emergency but they'll crucify him anyway so no loss there. At the same time, he makes friends with the dreamers for getting legislation he did not have to do and comes off as being conciliatory.

 

[Bronze]

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I suspect we will leave a little bit of land between the wall and Mexico so that both sides of the wall belong to us. Probably wouldn't be a good idea for Mexico to build stairs on "their" side.

 

[Bronze]

right and wrong depends only upon one's political "side".

Yep.

 

[Rockford]

Not true, vaping is right, smoking is wrong

 

[LAwaters]

I am in total despair, politically speaking; I thought 1968 was a bad year. I was twenty-three, entering my first year at the University of Kentucky and watched as a building was burnt down in protest while seeking peace, riots in the cities for justice, political shootings for who knows why. Division was palpable and violent. I won't be around for the worst of the continuing societal disintegration and to witness the ultimate rise of a totalitarian in a desperate search for elusive order. But my thirty year old daughter will be.

One of our founding fathers observed that a republic can only exist if the people are moral. Morality is now described only in political terms, right and wrong depends only upon one's political "side".

Orwell wrote his works as a warning; they are becoming a sad reality.

We agree on this. I was in kindergarten in ‘68, so I don’t have the firsthand knowledge you do. IMHO the division is being deliberately whipped to a frenzy. Whether in foolish profit motivation (click bait and other forms of sensationalism) or for some more nefarious purpose, it seems obvious to me. It extends globally too, not just the US.

Orwell wrote of “face crimes.” A certain news item being hammered on this past week appears to come down to a young man’s face crime. Insanity reigns.

 

[Bunnykiller]

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dont build it "on" the border...

 

[Bunnykiller]

Not true, Vaping is right, smoking is wrong

if smoking was wrong and no one smoked, there would be no reason for vaping

 

[Bunnykiller]

I missed that memo... what is a face crime?

 

[Bunnykiller]

the main thing that is immoral about humans is we keep voting in politicians to office.

 

[Ceejay0875]

I missed that memo... what is a face crime?

Uhhh...don't wanna get kicked off here. Just type "face crime" into your browser and you'll get an idea.

 

[PapawBrett]

Gandygate was very real. That's how we got Serendipity.

No, we have Serendipity because Heather mixed up a new flavor and Adam sells it !
You can take off the tin foil hat and come out of the closet now, General !

 

[CMD-Ky]

I have no clue how any of these flavors came into being BUT, I think I may try a small bottle of "Legend". It is a Purity, it is a NET and I think it may worth the risk of $9.00, if it doesn't work out I'll squeeze it into an ant hole this summer. Nicotine, a fine pesticide, Agatha Christie loved it.

 

[Opinionated]

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[LAwaters]

I missed that memo... what is a face crime?

In case you hadn’t read the book, here’s the scene. From “1984” Chapter 5:

“His earlier thought returned to him: probably she was not actually a member of the Thought Police, but then it was precisely the amateur spy who was the greatest danger of all. He did not know how long she had been looking at him, but perhaps for as much as five minutes, and it was possible that his features had not been perfectly under control. It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could give you away. A nervous tic, an unconscious look of anxiety, a habit of muttering to yourself -- anything that carried with it the suggestion of abnormality, of having something to hide. In any case, to wear an improper expression on your face (to look incredulous when a victory was announced, for example) was itself a punishable offence. There was even a word for it in Newspeak: facecrime, it was called.”

The current event happened in DC near the Lincoln Memorial, concerning a Native American man beating his drum in a crowd of young men from a Catholic high school. The HS students were wearing MAGA hats. People believe the young man to be the guilty party due to his particular smile. A segment of the video seems to show him deliberately blocking the man. And “smirking” at him. The full video shows a different story. Whatever anyone believes about what happened, the cries for blood are disturbing.

One boy from the HS was misidentified as the one in the video. He and his family received death threats and other harassment. Someone even contacted the cooking school where he’d been accepted to demand that they rescind their offer of admission. He wasn’t even in DC. He was home attending his brother’s wedding.

So when it comes to vaping, people cry, “Save the Children” but when it comes to this incident, they call for his blood and say horrifying things about him. The rush to judgement and ugly statements are disturbing.

Uhhh...don't wanna get kicked off here. Just type "face crime" into your browser and you'll get an idea.

No one’s kicking you off! As long as we discuss things respectfully, ECF allows us to share our thoughts except for certain topics about illegal items.

 

[LAwaters]

I thought we have actually been in a national state of emergency since 9-11-2001. Every president since then has renewed it. I believe Trump will follow suit.

I just read that we are under around 30 states of emergency dating back to Carter (I think). Many have to do with other nations and trade. Many dating from GWB have to do with national security. I was surprised we had so many ongoing.

 

[woita]

@CMD-Ky
I'm confident your ants will survive DF and Legend are all I vape these days. about 70%DF/30%Legend. Haven't looked back since Bronze recruited me to this thread and HHV juices

 

[LAwaters]

@CMD-Ky
I'm confident your ants will survive DF and Legend are all I vape these days. about 70%DF/30%Legend. Haven't looked back since Bronze recruited me to this thread and HHV juices

And I’m so happy you keep hanging out with us! Welcome home! I’m glad your journey went well this time.