How are you preparing for Vaping Armageddon?

[KODIAK (TM)]

This bill:

Prohibits a person from ordering electronic cigarette products by mail, phone, or Internet without a license

So how the hell does Utah keep their people from using the internet? Or does everyone in Utah need an internet license now?

 

[Fortyniene]

Really, we ought to just extend this reasoning to alcohol, too. There are a couple of bills that seek to raise the legal age for cigarettes to 21, just like with booze. Well, then, if kids aren't old enough to smoke a cig and drink a beer, then they sure as hell aren't old enough to be in the military.

+ elevendy mcbillon

I have always thought that.
How is it ok to be old enough to give your life for your country but you can't make the decision to drink? Sometimes our government is just plain crazy.

 

[fasteddie5]

F the gubment!

Life, some liberty, and no pursuit to happiness...

 

[Hypatia]

* Learning how to rebuild atomizers. Kanthal and cotton will not be restricted. Lithium-Ion batteries won't be either.

* Putting a substantial stash of 100 mg/ml ("High-Test") nic base in the freezer. A liter is of that is enough to last even a hard-core nicotine addict like me a couple of years. In glass bottles with the air in the head-space displaced with an inert gas like argon, and stored in a dark freezer, it should last pretty much forever. PG and VG won't be restricted. Food flavorings won't be either.


If you wait until then, you'll pay through the nose during that window. Just look at what happened with guns and ammo about one year ago, when the politicians were posturing about new restrictions.

I accidentally became a nicotine base hoarder last month. Thought I'd try DIY. Ordered a .... ton of 100mg/ml (thought I ordered 24mg/ml strength). Whoops! Going to be vaping for pennies for the rest of my life easily, once I figure out how to make a vapeable flavor, lol!

Oh, well! At least I'm ahead of the "game" this time. I discovered shooting sports right in the midst of the first "guns and ammo hoarding panic" of 2008. Then didn't learn my lesson during 2012. Grr...I just want to enjoy my hobby, not prepare for the end of the world, y'all--that includes shooting and vaping .

 

[wildxcard]

In Boston, MA, we're prohibited to vape in any smoke-free venue (meaning, we can't even vape in a bar) and are regulating e-cig sales in gas stations and smoke shops. I haven't heard anything about banning online sales, but how would a state even go about that?

 

[Hypatia]

In Boston, MA, we're prohibited to vape in any smoke-free venue (meaning, we can't even vape in a bar) and are regulating e-cig sales in gas stations and smoke shops. I haven't heard anything about banning online sales, but how would a state even go about that?

Likely the same way gun vendors can't sell 30 round magazines to folks your state (and others). The vendors will straight out be prohibited from shipping them into your state. But first, they'll have to be outright banned in your state (the vape equipment).

 

[bluecat]

Have you extracted nicotine before? It isn't exactly something one does in a pinch especially without equipment. I am not talking about NETs either.

I'll just vape 0mg and chew gum as a supplement while vaping if I haven't quit yet or maybe I will start smoking again.

I was never one of the world is ending type person.

I doubt it will happen.

 

[Elizabeth Baldwin]

I do my own ejuices... I keep a lot of nic handy but if worse comes to worse my major was chemistry... Could easily extract if it came down to that. I doubt nic would ever be completely banned... I see it more like getting taxed hugely like cigs.

You can freeze nic juice... So it wouldn't hurt to buy a gallon of pure nic and freeze it. . Tht would last a very, very long time.

 

[wildxcard]

Likely the same way gun vendors can't sell 30 round magazines to folks your state (and others). The vendors will straight out be prohibited from shipping them into your state. But first, they'll have to be outright banned in your state (the vape equipment).

Lol, whaaaat? An e-cig is not even anywhere as close to deadly or harmful as a gun or ammunition. They can suck my non-existant . I am sorry for people who live in states who might ban online buying.

 

[Myrany]

Lol, whaaaat? An e-cig is not even anywhere as close to deadly or harmful as a gun or ammunition. They can suck my non-existant . I am sorry for people who live in states who might ban online buying.

The problem is that is 2 trying to enact that Utah and California. They are the beginning. If they succeed it will trickle to the entire country.

 

[zanthious]

they will just make it if the store sells and ships to you they will raid it like they do for other things.

 

[wildxcard]

But.. but.. then how will I buy my gourmet e-juice. Or is that not a part of the bill?

 

[Hypatia]

Lol, whaaaat? An e-cig is not even anywhere as close to deadly or harmful as a gun or ammunition. They can suck my non-existant . I am sorry for people who live in states who might ban online buying.

I'm sorry if I didn't state it clearly enough. I in no way am making any type of judgement about guns vs. vaping. I apologize and sincerely mean no offense.

I'm only equating two types of inanimate objects (a metal box that holds, but ships without ammunition) and an electronic gadget that's just some metal and wires that are facing or presently are restricted in some areas, completely legal and unrestricted in other areas. The former is available in many states, and easily restricted in some with a simple stroke of the pen. The same can be done for the latter. I'm only saying that online sales can easily be prohibited in such a manner. Not to mention, any type of legislation enacting "Internet Sales Tax" will indeed easily track where online vendors are shipping their products.

 

[Botomline]

One big bottle of Nic base, learn to wrap coils, a few bulletproof RBA's, and a few heavy duty mechanicals. At this point I feel pretty insulated from whatever they do for the next few years.

 

[Kovertkow]

If the government wants my guns an my vape gear they'll have to take me from my cold dead hands.... After a predator drones bombs the crap out of me. mAssachusetts is a beautiful little slice of land, not as gorgeous as Utah or northern Cali. Unfortunately those three states are full of blowhard wanna be hipster yuppie d bags who only care about what's popular at the time and not freedoms.

 

[rm.o]

Well it's both and neither to an extent.

It's the rebellion to the anti-smoke group think. On both 'conservative' (pot view) and 'liberal' (Nic=cancer) thete views.

Unfortunatley I don't see any solutions. Even if we bend over there's not a lot that will stop the legislatsorous

 

[Botomline]

I'm envisioning hordes of vape zombies wandering the land in search of juice.....Therefore I might stock up on ammo to protect my stockpile. Darn, ammo is sold out at my local B&M. Hmmmmmm

 

[Kovertkow]

Well it's both and neither to an extent.

It's the rebellion to the anti-smoke group think. On both 'conservative' (pot view) and 'liberal' (Nic=cancer) thete views.

Unfortunatley I don't see any solutions. Even if we bend over there's not a lot that will stop the legislatsorous

I swear our government officials first see what will generate income (Huge taxes on luxury goods) then pick a side without much research... Then it's jump in front of a camera or a mic and push push push their agenda...

 

[Rossum]

Likely the same way gun vendors can't sell 30 round magazines to folks your state (and others). The vendors will straight out be prohibited from shipping them into your state.

How so? I believe what keeps "Gun Vendors" from shipping magazines to states like California is a fear of losing their FFL (Federal Firearms License) because losing it would effectively put them out of business. But I don't think there's anything that prohibits a private individual in a free state from sending (for example) a 30-round magazine to someone in California, where that magazine is illegal. A magazine is not a gun and is not regulated by the feds. California can arrest the recipient for being in possession of that magazine, but as long as the sender doesn't set foot in California, there's not a bloody thing California can do to him for sending it.

I believe the situation with vape stuff will be similar. Unless/until there's federal regulation of vape-related stuff, or federal licensing required to sell it, there's nothing that prevents anyone (including B&Ms) in free states from shipping to customers who live in nanny-states. Notice that the proposed Utah would prohibit "a person from ordering electronic cigarette products by mail, phone, or Internet," it does not even attempt to prohibit an out-of-state entity from filling such an order should it be placed. Why? Because the politicians in Utah know darn well that they have no power at all to do so.

 

[rm.o]

I swear our government officials first see what will generate income (Huge taxes on luxury goods) then pick a side without much research... Then it's jump in front of a camera or a mic and push push push their agenda...

It seems to be thier strategy of choice