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tiburonfirst

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Better gear?

Yes, ProVari used to be the best, just like American cars used to be the best cars in the world. Everybody wanted to have one--Jean-Louis Trintignant drove a red Mustang convertible on the beach in A Man and a Woman... And we laughed at Japanese cheap knockoffs of our cars.

oh my! i think we created a sigelei mini fan gal before it even reached our shores! ;)

and some disclosure - i do own a provari mini and i'm content - reliable, solid construction - button placement does not feel awkward and the mini does what i expect it to do :D

but back to the op's original question > what is the right advice for a noob? imo, we do not know. some may be ready to jump right into the mod craze, others might benefit from a simple 510 starter kit. and therein lies the problem and that's why i stay away from the new members' forum. nobody qualifies their answer by stating: if you are at this point or if you are looking to achieve this then maybe ......
let's face it - what might have worked for you will not necessarily work for somebody else! but there is hardly anybody around who seems to remember that when dishing out advice :?:
 
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You could probably catch a Kelpie. They only move when you look away.

That's a weeping angel you're thinking of.

I'm actually not all that crazy over having to have something say "Made In America." Usually, that sticker means someone got paid way too much to build a subpar product. Unless it is hadbuilt, from scratch, by a machinist or professional (ie car engines), that sticker means nothing to me. I understand the whole bringing jobs back home thing, and taking the work back to the Americans. But, there's a reason those jobs aren't here anymore. Whether it be because the cost of manufacturing was too high due to unions (or no union) or because it was hard to find workers who were willing to do the job. Every job that people try to take back from immigrants or foreign locations, are jobs that majority of the American population would not be willing to do, let alone at the current price. My 2 cents on the whole "Made In America" and knock off subgroup.

Now, that being said, I think I found my new dream mod: ElectronicStix.Com · The Titanide Themis

Now to justify the price/have my machinist friend make me one out of aluminum and brass.
 

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Ha!

I was just tooling around the forum and I found that 3 years ago, people were angry that the "EGO fanboys" were pushing eGos to people who wanted a cigalike! One poster said he has never vaped with his eGo in public!

Times change, equipment changes, perception changes: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-information/141096-advice-what-buy-newcomers.html

You know somewhere in the whole mess of that argument and this thread it occurred to me that the gear being debated is all going to be obsolete in a year or less.

The thing that got me cranky was when discussion became personal attack. THAT was completely out of line.
 

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The Titanide Themis is awesome, no? AND, it is made in FRANCE!! (I am in no way knocking France, after all, I am French! I didn't know the country was so well regarded for superior machinery!)


"The most important characteristic of the switch is the inlaying of abalone shell which makes each work piece a single one.
The abalone shell is a kind of mother-of-pearl of very high quality with very beautiful reflections which are often green tinted.
Just like the head and the ferrule, the switch is 24-carats golden brass made."

24 carats "golden brass made?"
 

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oh my! i think we created a sigelei mini fan gal before it even reached our shores! ;)

Not yet. I'm not holding my breath. I'm just pointing out that the technology is moving forward --and I like it. Competition is a good thing. Let the best mod win.

and some disclosure - i do own a provari mini and i'm content - reliable, solid construction - button placement does not feel awkward and the mini does what i expect it to do :D

It's a great mod. If somebody had asked me two years ago, or a year ago, or even six months ago, which mod to get--money is no object--I would have said ProVari. But things are changing fast and there are a lot of great devices out there--and they do much more than a ProVari can do. It all depends on what features a new vaper is looking for. Do you want "buttery threads" or variable wattage? :p

but back to the op's original question > what is the right advice for a noob? imo, we do not know. some may be ready to jump right into the mod craze, others might benefit from a simple 510 starter kit. and therein lies the problem and that's why i stay away from the new members' forum. nobody qualifies their answer by stating: if you are at this point or if you are looking to achieve this then maybe ......
let's face it - what might have worked for you will not necessarily work for somebody else! but there is hardly anybody around who seems to remember that when dishing out advice :?:

Tibs, that wasn't the OP's question. We're talking about personal attacks on people who dare to say anything against ProVari. This is getting ugly. It's not about advice anymore--it's about cyber bullying. When I see posts like this in New Members forum, I really want to scream. But maybe you're right--maybe we should just refrain from giving advice...

[...]
I am a new owner of a Provari. A reluctant fanboy... (I'm a marketing specialist, and I've never been so happily sucked into buying something.) That said. Holding a Provari in your hands feels just like Mary must have felt when she first held baby Jesus Except better because Provari's don't cry and soil their swaddling. [...]

I hope it was tongue-in-cheek, but honestly???

It's a metal pipe with a spring and an aging microchip, for crying out loud.
 

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You know somewhere in the whole mess of that argument and this thread it occurred to me that the gear being debated is all going to be obsolete in a year or less.

The thing that got me cranky was when discussion became personal attack. THAT was completely out of line.

Yes.

And yes.
 

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the Newbie Forum. GRRRRRR!!! I will just leave it to the Provari fan boys who KNOW EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT VAPING. "Just get a Provari..."

My head hurts. Poor new people. They will be getting a Provari and running a LR cartomizer on top as they overfill and have juice dripping down the side of a $200 battery case and wondering why this vaping "thing" just isn't working out so well. When the batteries run dry, they will be running to Walgreens to buy a disposable Blu.

Oh, well. They all want a Prothingy. GOD FORBID people should tell them to slow their roll and figure it out before spending the rent money on a device they do not understand.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

@ tweety - maybe cyber-bullying is at the bottom of it but to me it looks as if people think they found the holy grail of vaping and it should apply to everybody else ;)
fat chance .....
 

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    That's a weeping angel you're thinking of.

    I'm actually not all that crazy over having to have something say "Made In America." Usually, that sticker means someone got paid way too much to build a subpar product. Unless it is hadbuilt, from scratch, by a machinist or professional (ie car engines), that sticker means nothing to me. I understand the whole bringing jobs back home thing, and taking the work back to the Americans. But, there's a reason those jobs aren't here anymore. Whether it be because the cost of manufacturing was too high due to unions (or no union) or because it was hard to find workers who were willing to do the job. Every job that people try to take back from immigrants or foreign locations, are jobs that majority of the American population would not be willing to do, let alone at the current price. My 2 cents on the whole "Made In America" and knock off subgroup.

    Now, that being said, I think I found my new dream mod: ElectronicStix.Com · The Titanide Themis

    Now to justify the price/have my machinist friend make me one out of aluminum and brass.

    Drew already does, It's called The Curve.
    The Curve
     

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    @ tweety - maybe cyber-bullying is at the bottom of it but to me it looks as if people think they found the holy grail of vaping and it should apply to everybody else ;)
    fat chance .....

    We all recommend what we like--how could we do anything else? It's human nature. Recommend away. And walk away. Don't attack people who recommend something else. Don't attack anybody, for that matter.

    And if the OP says," I'm looking for a cigalike because the small form resembling a cigarette is important to me", don't recommend a Telescopic Sigelei Zmax.

    Read the OP and answer the question--why is it so hard?
     

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    i think that explains it even in this case ;)
     

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    It's pretty simple really. Just suggest things you know something about. The only "fan boy" stuff that bothers me is when folks suggest products that you know damn well they have never seen .... let alone ever used. The ProTank was a classic example, it was being suggested in almost every thread before it was even available.
    Just because a product is something you might like to try doesn't make it something you should suggest to others.
     
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    RedHatPat: "And computers shouldn't be used to charge batteries, it's not good for your motherboard or the eGo. I wonder if it's ok to use a powerstrip or extension cord of some kind, to charge an ego with household current?"

    I mainly charge mine on the cable box. It has a USB port. I also have a USB adapter that I keep on a powerstrip, so I have another dedicated charger spot. So yes, I think it is fine to charge an Ego batt on household current. The upside is that it charges faster, too.
    Lol I've never even considered the cable box. I forgot the usb was even there and had to peek as I was reading the post.I'm going to plug something in there now. I don't know what but, I'll think if something..
     

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    Lol I've never even considered the cable box. I forgot the usb was even there and had to peek as I was reading the post.I'm going to plug something in there now. I don't know what but, I'll think if something..

    USB on our cable box is not an option. Between the Tivo and my hubbys computer being wired into the home theater system I think I would be shot if I unplugged anything to charge my PV. ;)
     

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    You know somewhere in the whole mess of that argument and this thread it occurred to me that the gear being debated is all going to be obsolete in a year or less.

    The thing that got me cranky was when discussion became personal attack. THAT was completely out of line.

    Not if you pay for the extended warranty...
     
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