I Must State This

[K_Tech]

......as far as the term "counterfeit" goes, it is only a "counterfeit" if the person or company has patented their design and/or trademarked their brand logo....I suspect some may have and suspect some haven't bothered....if not, they should have...because it isn't counterfeit anything as no one actually owns the design/logo...

I know this is picking nits, but outside of a strictly legal definition, "counterfeiting" is simply the reproduction of an item, usually in an attempt to defraud someone by claiming the counterfeit as an original.

If they sell it as a clone or reproduction and it is purchased as such, there's no counterfeiting involved, trademarked logo or not (again, outside of legal definition).

 

[Jay-dub]

Hopefully clones cut down on the engineered obsolescence appearant in the real deal.

 

[Arnie H]

Want to illustrate my point about purchasers having no direct control over what goes on these clones.

Recently there was a flap over an item on fasttech, an RBA, I think it was, which appeared to have engraved on it, what looked like a swastika. Now some people were upset, some were even offended, however it was pointed out that this symbol was thousands of years old and was in many cultures a symbol of good luck and well being before it became (guilty by association) with the Nazi party.

I suggested this symbol might have meaning in Chinese history/folklore. The idea that fasttech or the Chinese people might be anti-semitic or something is just ridiculous. I Don't think anything like this was intended. I do not work for fasttech. I certainly did not ask them to put this symbol on the device, considering the US is their main market, I would have advised against it. The decision was not mine as a prospective purchaser.

 

[suspectK]

The swastika is in almost every culture. Asian and Native American cultures used it. I think Native Americans used two different directions. One direction in its symbology of perpetual motion represented white settlers, in the New England areas if I'm not mistaken.