Iatty

[capevette]

For the lazy, pre-made 3.0-4.0ohm wires are available for another rebuildable atty . I just received these and they work very well. The plain wire is a little stiff but is workable, whats nice is the nic and plain wire seem to be welded not twisted together . I'm getting 5-6 coil wraps around the wick. Vapes like a champ @ 7.4v

 

[Para]

For the lazy, pre-made 3.0-4.0ohm wires are available for another rebuildable atty . I just received these and they work very well. The plain wire is a little stiff but is workable, whats nice is the nic and plain wire seem to be welded not twisted together . I'm getting 5-6 coil wraps around the wick. Vapes like a champ @ 7.4v

Do we have to pay to find out who you are talking about?

 

[RippleInStillWater]

I'm with you Carol, I just ordered some. I'm all for making things as neat and tidy. Great looking coils and wiring lord! Fantastic idea Zor! Now I just need one final little personal touch and the iAtty is going to be absolute perfection. I CANT WAIT!!!

I haven't been following this thread as closely as I probably should have -- can I ask a couple things because I'm a little confused after a lot of reading.......

1. Are these sleeves necessary and/or better than twisting?
2. Does the cap need to be down all the way over the coils? I've seen all the way, 1/4 turn, it depends on your juice.....
3. Is there a way to change the wick wothout unwinding the coil? Are they in some linked videos that I haven't watched yet I'm guessing?!?!?!?
4. Is there something about the coil under the wick?

Maybe I've read too much but my brain hurts!!! 8-o

 

[fright88]

Ripple the sleeves aren't required but usefull if using Silver NR wire and handy for nickle as you won't have to twist the wires ect.

2 I dnif that the cone workes best with my juice about 1.5mm from being screwed all the way down but I think depending on your wick/juice your results may vary.

3 You can make a coil without the wick put it in the cup then place the wick on top of it but I found with my juice this method doesn't work well. Videos is here ‪making vaping Iatty chunk 1‬‏ - YouTube
‪making vaping Iatty chunk 2‬‏ - YouTube
‪making vaping Iatty chunk 3‬‏ - YouTube

Hope this helps.

 

[RippleInStillWater]

Thanks so much, my friend!

 

[fright88]

No problem glad to help

 

[silentt]

For the lazy, pre-made 3.0-4.0ohm wires are available for another rebuildable atty . I just received these and they work very well. The plain wire is a little stiff but is workable, whats nice is the nic and plain wire seem to be welded not twisted together . I'm getting 5-6 coil wraps around the wick. Vapes like a champ @ 7.4v

Where is this from?

 

[CarolCrocbag]

Tried my first attempt at the SS mesh wick, pretty disatrous. Got it oxidised and bent to shape, wrapped the coil around and set in the ceramic cup. Putting the small bits of wick in was hard, as pieces that short unwravel and started going everywhere. Then getting the cone screwed on was a pain, with bits of wick going everywhere, got the cone on, though squashed parts of the SS mesh flat in places doing so.
Anyway tried vaping it first time, coil was at 1.5ohm, at 3.7v and not much vapour and what vapour there was, very harsh. Albiet, without any burnt taste.
Also iatty was getting quite warm. Took it apart to check and it was firing ok, probably because I was trying to get a decent ammount of vapour it warmed up.
Another thing, after taking it apart I found I had cross threaded the bottom plastic bit into the iAtty, will need a new piece now and also whilst cleaning found one of the ceramic cup orings had broken.
Pretty dire results so far.

 

[lorderos33]

Tried my first attempt at the SS mesh wick, pretty disatrous. Got it oxidised and bent to shape, wrapped the coil around and set in the ceramic cup. Putting the small bits of wick in was hard, as pieces that short unwravel and started going everywhere. Then getting the cone screwed on was a pain, with bits of wick going everywhere, got the cone on, though squashed parts of the SS mesh flat in places doing so.
Anyway tried vaping it first time, coil was at 1.5ohm, at 3.7v and not much vapour and what vapour there was, very harsh. Albiet, without any burnt taste.
Also iatty was getting quite warm. Took it apart to check and it was firing ok, probably because I was trying to get a decent ammount of vapour it warmed up.
Another thing, after taking it apart I found I had cross threaded the bottom plastic bit into the iAtty, will need a new piece now and also whilst cleaning found one of the ceramic cup orings had broken.
Pretty dire results so far.

Sorry to hear that, I did not have many issues at all when I did mine

The cone was a little hard to put on but not bad at all, it went on with only slightly more effort than usual, but I was able to install it with just using my fingers on the small part of the cone to tighten from. Everything else went very easily for me.

As far as the wick going everywhere, I found that it is easier to mess with those small pieces if you wet them with some PG or VG first. I coated mine with unflavored juice to hold them together after the first try.

Also ,harsh hits means not enough juice, might need to prime it or open the cone more to let the juice flow to the coil more easily.

 

[zuTma]

I'm still on my first coil and wick that came with iatty, been three days now.
Don't know for you guys but for me it's perfect. I was in love with UFS but this take
the game on completely new level. This really is steam machine and it works 100% (so far )

 

[dspin]

Ordered the SS micro beads and Micro crimper off ebay a little while ago. Already have the 999 fine silver wire, Kanthal and Nichrome. Thanks to all who have posted about these. Still waiting to hear what everyone thinks is best wick of all. Think I'll pass on the mesh and just wrap a wick.

 

[lorderos33]

Ordered the SS micro beads and Micro crimper off ebay a little while ago. Already have the 999 fine silver wire, Kanthal and Nichrome. Thanks to all who have posted about these. Still waiting to hear what everyone thinks is best wick of all. Think I'll pass on the mesh and just wrap a wick.

Looks like the best wick so far is the Nextel XC-116 ceramic wick. It also sounds like it works best if you heat it up really good before you use it.

 

[silentt]

I need some pictures on how to use the mesh in the iatty. A step by step will be perfect

 

[Para]

Looks like the best wick so far is the Nextel XC-116 ceramic wick. It also sounds like it works best if you heat it up really good before you use it.

...plus:
tie it off before wrapping the coil
don't force it into the ceramic cup

Keeping it from unraveling prematurely and getting cut makes a big difference in handling and it's wicking ability. I've never been able to get wire mesh to work worth a flip in anything I've tried....just can't get it to work like it's supposed to

 

[fright88]

oK, here it is again with pics on building the iAtty with a mesh wick. Hope this helps

Here's how I did it.

I took a 15mm x 50mm piece of mesh and rolled it till it fit in the CE2 ceramic cup and then oxidized the entire wick, not just the part the coil gets wrapped around.

Once the oxidation is was done, I put it in a gutted CE2 to hold it steady while I made the tight bends. T make the bends, I took the butane torch I used to oxidize it, set it to high and focused the heat on one side of where it sticks out of the CE2. I heated it u til it gave to slight pressure then bent it to 45 degrees while still applying the heat from the torch. Do the same on both sides so you end up with a wick that looks like kind of like this \_/ (upside down though).

Make your wire like you normally would and wrap it around the center leg of the mesh.

Take 2 pieces Of the fiberglass wick just long enough to use to put between the mesh and the wire leads (you need this to seal up the channels where the wick goes to the liquid and to insulate the mesh from the leads).

Assemble the iAtty as you normally would, fill it with juice and hold on to your socks!

Remember, this setup kicks like nothing else I have ever tried. It does not burn the juice at all, but it produces extreme amounts of very strong vapor... The first hit made me choke

To those of you brave enough to do this, you have been warned. I promised I'd do the experiment and post the results. Use at your own risk and try it with lower level nic juice first. I cannot say it strongly enough...the iAtty hits VERY HARD like this.

Personally, I will most likely work on a hybrid mesh/wick combo next to try to tame this for every day use.

The pics were taken after a couple o days and 2 full tanks vaped through, no cleaning, just opened the iAtty and took pics . As you can see, it stays very clean. The vapor production is as good as the first day still, flavor is through the roof and TH is now manageable. I can hit after hit with no issues, but if I chain vape it, it's an almost instant head buzz and I have to fight back the coughs, lol, but no burnt taste at all. It's very nice.

You'll have to excuse the pics, they were taken with my phone.

Here you go Silent.

 

[CarolCrocbag]

Sorry to hear that, I did not have many issues at all when I did mine

The cone was a little hard to put on but not bad at all, it went on with only slightly more effort than usual, but I was able to install it with just using my fingers on the small part of the cone to tighten from. Everything else went very easily for me.

As far as the wick going everywhere, I found that it is easier to mess with those small pieces if you wet them with some PG or VG first. I coated mine with unflavored juice to hold them together after the first try.

Also ,harsh hits means not enough juice, might need to prime it or open the cone more to let the juice flow to the coil more easily.

Cheers. Well I had another go, this time with a bit more success. Wetting the wick some, with juice helped in controling it and it started off vaping like a steam engine. Though after a couple of chugs, I started to get a burnt wick taste. Took it apart to have a look and moved the wicks down a little further from the coil, tried again though still the foal burnt taste. I must of got a few stray ends touching the resistance wire. Also I used the 400 this time, rather than the 325(I have two sheets of that so thought to experiment with that first.) which may of helped with more vapour?
I am far from given up with this SS mesh and will try again tomorrow, making sure I get no bits of wick anywhere near the resistance wire.
One thing, the iAtty gets quite warm, nearly hot with this, infact when I opened it up the cone was nearly too hot to touch. I checked the coil and fired it up to check I wasn't getting a short and no, only the coil was heating up?
Also, does it matter if the mesh creases, when you bend it down. I am heating it very hot whilst doing the bends, though it always seems to crease?
Do I really need any wick in there with the mesh?

 

[lorderos33]

Cheers. Well I had another go, this time with a bit more success. Wetting the wick some, with juice helped in controling it and it started off vaping like a steam engine. Though after a couple of chugs, I started to get a burnt wick taste. Took it apart to have a look and moved the wicks down a little further from the coil, tried again though still the foal burnt taste. I must of got a few stray ends touching the resistance wire. Also I used the 400 this time, rather than the 325(I have two sheets of that so thought to experiment with that first.) which may of helped with more vapour?
I am far from given up with this SS mesh and will try again tomorrow, making sure I get no bits of wick anywhere near the resistance wire.
One thing, the iAtty gets quite warm, nearly hot with this, infact when I opened it up the cone was nearly too hot to touch. I checked the coil and fired it up to check I wasn't getting a short and no, only the coil was heating up?
Also, does it matter if the mesh creases, when you bend it down. I am heating it very hot whilst doing the bends, though it always seems to crease?
Do I really need any wick in there with the mesh?

You may not need any wick at all there, I just put that in there for good measure to prevent any possible leaking and shorting against the lead wires (the lead shorting should not be a concern though if the entire wick is oxidized). It may work even better without the wick at all so the entire mesh will be open to the juice and wick that much faster.

You should not have any creases in the mesh although it should not stop it from working, just keep in mind that the smoother the bend the better the juice flow. One more tip...if you coat the wick in juice (1 or 2 drops only) and then light it on fire before you wrap the coils and install it, it will wick better and will give the oxidation layer a little more resilience too.

This may also help you guys trying to make nice bends in your SS mesh wicks. It is scubabatdan's method and works very nicely.

 

[Repent]

Plus the Silver wire is as close to ZERO resistance as you can get (unless you wanna pay for Pure Gold wire. The Nickel wire will still add a little bit of resistance (0.83 ohm/ft) to the overall setup. For example, you have a 1.5 ohm Kanthal Wire + 10cm of Nickel (.27 ohm) you actually end up with 1.77 ohm across the assembly.

You mean you guys aren't using pure gold wire? Peasants.

 

[thedudeabides]

hey guys, is the micro crimper a requirement you think? I have a nice pair of needlenose pliers as well as a normal wire cutter/crimper.

 

[Para]

hey guys, is the micro crimper a requirement you think? I have a nice pair of needlenose pliers as well as a normal wire cutter/crimper.

If you are real good working with pliers, a good side cutter works just the same.....just don't use too much pressure and cut it