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I tried to lower my nic but I become a hazard to all people around me.
Besides by continue with nic I might lower my chances of getting alzheimer's, parkinson and a bunch of other diseases and keep my mental status calm and people around me alive.
I would start stocking up on all the hardware and buy no nic juice or make it. This might be a good thing for us to think about, the problem is the nicotine right. With that in mind, why dont we all , especially the long time vapers, to start weaning off on nicotine. What I enjoy is the act of smoking/vaping. The taste, the inhale the clouds of vaper. For myself everytime I order juice I go lower on the nic. After all there is still coffee, tea, sodas and those energy drinks that are loaded with caffeine. So if its a stimulant you want cant they make ejuice with caffeine instead? Dont get me wrong, I like the nicotine in the juice, especially when quitting cigarettes. It is needed to get us off the cigarettes.
No, the problem is the people trying to take the nicotine away.
No thanks. I vastly prefer having the benefits of nicotine to not having the benefits of nicotine.
0nic juice and home made mods
the circuitry in these things isn't that complicated. The only thing the least bit worth paying for in, for example, a provari, darwin, or kick is the fact that someone else already paid to have the PCBs etched because people like things they can hold in their hands. Building a power-regulated mod into something the size of a laptop would be trivial. From there, it's just making things smaller and testing.
Also, it's possible to synthesize nicotine: synthesys
It'd be black/grey market and completely unregulated and probably lead to really "dirty" nic base. I'd like to think that people have learned from the impressively failing war on drugs and wouldn't go that route, but all indicators are that's not going to be the case.
(Disclaimer: I'm not advocating drug use, just using it as an example of where regulations like that lead)
Also, it's possible to synthesize nicotine: synthesys
It'd be black/grey market and completely unregulated and probably lead to really "dirty" nic base. I'd like to think that people have learned from the impressively failing war on drugs and wouldn't go that route, but all indicators are that's not going to be the case.
(Disclaimer: I'm not advocating drug use, just using it as an example of where regulations like that lead)
"I would form an underground vaper organization and we would buy up all the tobacco so they couldn't make cigarettes 
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hello I read that part of someones thread and thought, why does everyone always have to go to extremes? Yes, smoking is bad, we have seen all the reports, the campaigns, the possible bans etc. Im sure that most people who vape now, all were smokers. Why did we start? doesnt matter we made the decision to and with all the reports and supposed evidence we smoked and smoked. I enjoyed it, liked the smell, the look whatever, It was my decision. I hated when everyone would make faces and hack and look at me as though I was a criminal. I hated when someone would comment on someone having lung cancer and making comment like oh well, he/she was a smoker, as if their illness was a punishment cause they were BAD. Its like when someone who rides a motorcycle has an accident and gets maimed or killed people see it as they deserved it for riding a bike. Im not trying to start an argument, but it is not fair to say things like banning tobacco, because in essence we are still tobacco users. We use the nicotine. We use the tobacco flavorings. Tobacco is not just this big evil empire looking to kill the stupid , there is another side. The workers, their families, their homes. I understand the concern with second hand smoke, and I always made it a point to be considerate and lurking in the darks shadows to smoke. To some cigarettes smelled bad, well, to some axe body products make them want to gag. All the exhaust from cars, airplanes etc. If they could without a doubt say that if smoking cigarettes stopped that the world would be a healthier place and no one would ever get lung cancer , then Id say okay. SOme of us drink, some of us do other things that are bad, hamburgers, sausage, baby back ribs, sodas, sugar . I am not a "pet" in a cage that has to depend on others to care for me and feed me. I am an individual and I want to know what is bad, but I want to make the decision. Just because I stopped smoking Im not going to start making the faces, hacking etc when another person smokes, Im sure you all hated that when you smoked.
What if tommorow they decided to ban gas powered cars. Would all of you collectors and lovers of our beloved mustangs, cadillacs, lambourghini , ferrari ect want to be imprisoned for having them? Just a little rant, not an invitation to start an all out war here. Just saying remember when you would rather fight than switch? Im happy Im a nonsmoker , for me. Im loving the vaping, for me.
"hello I read that part of someones thread and thought, why does everyone always have to go to extremes? Yes, smoking is bad, we have seen all the reports, the campaigns, the possible bans etc. Im sure that most people who vape now, all were smokers. Why did we start? doesnt matter we made the decision to and with all the reports and supposed evidence we smoked and smoked. I enjoyed it, liked the smell, the look whatever, It was my decision. I hated when everyone would make faces and hack and look at me as though I was a criminal. I hated when someone would comment on someone having lung cancer and making comment like oh well, he/she was a smoker, as if their illness was a punishment cause they were BAD. Its like when someone who rides a motorcycle has an accident and gets maimed or killed people see it as they deserved it for riding a bike. Im not trying to start an argument, but it is not fair to say things like banning tobacco, because in essence we are still tobacco users. We use the nicotine. We use the tobacco flavorings. Tobacco is not just this big evil empire looking to kill the stupid , there is another side. The workers, their families, their homes. I understand the concern with second hand smoke, and I always made it a point to be considerate and lurking in the darks shadows to smoke. To some cigarettes smelled bad, well, to some axe body products make them want to gag. All the exhaust from cars, airplanes etc. If they could without a doubt say that if smoking cigarettes stopped that the world would be a healthier place and no one would ever get lung cancer , then Id say okay. SOme of us drink, some of us do other things that are bad, hamburgers, sausage, baby back ribs, sodas, sugar . I am not a "pet" in a cage that has to depend on others to care for me and feed me. I am an individual and I want to know what is bad, but I want to make the decision. Just because I stopped smoking Im not going to start making the faces, hacking etc when another person smokes, Im sure you all hated that when you smoked.
What if tommorow they decided to ban gas powered cars. Would all of you collectors and lovers of our beloved mustangs, cadillacs, lambourghini , ferrari ect want to be imprisoned for having them? Just a little rant, not an invitation to start an all out war here. Just saying remember when you would rather fight than switch? Im happy Im a nonsmoker , for me. Im loving the vaping, for me.
"I would form an underground vaper organization and we would buy up all the tobacco so they couldn't make cigarettes
hello I read that part of someones thread and thought, why does everyone always have to go to extremes? Yes, smoking is bad, we have seen all the reports, the campaigns, the possible bans etc. Im sure that most people who vape now, all were smokers. Why did we start? doesnt matter we made the decision to and with all the reports and supposed evidence we smoked and smoked.
Im not trying to start an argument, but it is not fair to say things like banning tobacco, because in essence we are still tobacco users. We use the nicotine. We use the tobacco flavorings. Tobacco is not just this big evil empire looking to kill the stupid , there is another side. The workers, their families, their homes.
I think that person meant to get the tobacco for vapers, so we could all DIY. The growers would still get money, and we could hire the workers who make cigs to make our "banned" nic juice. Grab the tobacco, not ban it. It is just a nice fantasy -- don't let "them" force us back to breathing smoke.
I think it would be kinda fun to watch the general public if they ban batteries.
Not all that hard to make my own atomizers if I had to.
Guess I would have to come up with a good tobacco tea recipe.
Vape on
Disclaimer:
Don't try this unless you know what you are doing. You MUST extend the center pin or it will short the battery.
Not all that hard to make my own atomizers if I had to.
Guess I would have to come up with a good tobacco tea recipe.
Vape on
Disclaimer:
Don't try this unless you know what you are doing. You MUST extend the center pin or it will short the battery.
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Hopefully I'd be down to 0mg by then since there would be some warning. If I was down to 0mg going Baretta on the atty most of the time could be a possibility to make them last a lot longer while still getting flavor.
Then I would join the wrongful death class action lawsuit against the FDA for trying to force vapers to join the ranks of their claimed 400,000+ tobacco related deaths.
Then I would join the wrongful death class action lawsuit against the FDA for trying to force vapers to join the ranks of their claimed 400,000+ tobacco related deaths.
I think it would be kinda fun to watch the general public if they ban batteries.
Not all that hard to make my own atomizers if I had to.
Guess I would have to come up with a good tobacco tea recipe.
Vape on
Disclaimer:
Don't try this unless you know what you are doing. You MUST extend the center pin or it will short the battery.
Don't walk around an airport with that lol.
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hahaha^^^ of course- the black market will exist forever.. I'll totally switch to rebuildables and I made some PG tobacco extraction which very nicely vapable with delicate pure tobacco flavor.. So, I'll be good no matter what.. Another thing I noticed is- when I smoked I usually got paranoid of running out of my smokes.. and never left my home without 2 packs of cigarettes. I always had 5-6 cartons of cigarettess and always reordered when I've got to 2 or 3 cartons of supply. Now I can leave home for a few hours without my PV and I feel perfectly fine.. That's a good sign of minimized addiction to nicotine..
I'm actually concerned by the other side of the coin (issue).. As we all know the Prohibition created Mafia.. Ban of electronic cigarettes will create Vape-Mob! LOL...
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