Interesting news for modders and a question

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DaveP

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I see the tech coming out in ecigs as transitional and every time I see improvements and sophistication. Constant wattage is a good next step, but I see thermistor based heat control as the final end to the problem. After all, wattage consumed by an atty translates to heat, which is the desired end result.

Using attys that provide a temperature dependent voltage feedback to the control circuitry will enter the conversation eventually whether that means a proprietary atty or a thermistor type device that is situated where it can read the coil. The introduction of juice as a heat sink changes the result of wattage provided to the coil. A dry coil will still be hotter than one that is immersed in juice. DC resistance won't change much and the wattage reading may just be the next step in the evolution of the technology.

Supply a constant wattage to a coil immersed in liquid coolant and the heat is dispersed into the medium. If you do the same to a coil in dry air, the heat is dispersed into the air. Resistance may vary slightly as the heater coil molecules expand and contract with respect to each other, but the heat factor is what we are looking for and that will vary based on juice feed.

Thermistor control will be the ultimate tech, IMO. I do see wattage as a good next step in the evolution of ecig tech, though. The problem with heat monitoring will be designing the monitoring circuitry to match all atomizers without the use of a proprietary atty that contains the thermistor.

Here's a thread that begins to talk about monitoring atty temps.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...l-vaporization-atomizer-temp.html#post4267404
 
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Boost yes, and to air1, This is an argument that has been had a thousand times and until one of you crack the programming used you cannot make statements like that. While I value your opinion this is not a power reg vs VV arguement, just an insiders look into a new product. I cant understand people in this matter. If you prefer a Vari or other VV device vape it hard and long. But as I don't try to rile things up in vari threads I ask only that people do the same for me.

IMHO though of the 2 varis and 3 darwins I own, I will pick up the darwin every time. As to people that say anything at all about a tech without seeing the programming behind it and a full understanding of how that works in tandem with the hardware, it is just bad science.

in short with all due respect I have to disagree with you.

Seems no matter what I say, somebody comes at me like I ...... in their weaties.

Um... I agree with the darwin, and think that it's a better vape. Are we on the same side or not, as I'm confused.

Until I bla bla bla, I already did, and posted pics and vapes from it. So, yea I guess I do know a thing or 2.

As far as the programming, well yea, I'm a professional programmer, and have been since the 70's. And since I have already programmed the chip myself, I guess I FULLY understand EXACTLY what's involved. And it's no small feat. It took me hundreds of hours and countless prototypes to get it perfect.

So I will state again. It does not have to have a shunt, and it does not have to be innacurate.

And you can't have it both ways. It is either accurate, or it's not. Which is it? I only said that it could be accurate because mine is, which is this?
 

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I obviously misread that at 4am. Sorry about that. As far as I know it is accurate, the Darwin is a winner in all regards and seems to be a fit peice of equipment. The "kick" is simply a shrunken version of the already tested Darwin unit, so I suppose that we will have the same great vaping experience.

Obviously there is going to be a certain amount inaccuracy until I have one on my table to give you more detailed info. At this point, until I have one, I am just trying to keep everyone posted on a new development.

Again air I am sorry for jumping the gun, I really need to stop reading posts late night on a handle of rum.
 

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I obviously misread that at 4am. Sorry about that. As far as I know it is accurate, the Darwin is a winner in all regards and seems to be a fit peice of equipment. The "kick" is simply a shrunken version of the already tested Darwin unit, so I suppose that we will have the same great vaping experience.

Obviously there is going to be a certain amount inaccuracy until I have one on my table to give you more detailed info. At this point, until I have one, I am just trying to keep everyone posted on a new development.

Again air I am sorry for jumping the gun, I really need to stop reading posts late night on a handle of rum.

You are a standup guy. I really do think that this is a great thing, and do appreciate your involvement. I would also like to apologize for coming unglued.
 

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When you say it boosts, do you mean that it actually boosts the power up from what the battery puts out in order to hit the target output? I could swear the darwin uses two stacked batteries. I didn't think it was boosted.

That's what he means. And yes, the Darwin does do that. But this isn't the Darwin.
 

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I realize this is PROLLY somewhat of a man thread, and with no gender insult intended, I am very happy to hear the passions that are evident here. I'm not a modder, (altho I make a mean Bonut) and yet, as a D'win owner, I do find this fascinating info and can't wait to keep reading your posts! This is fantastic. Thank you jayvolt.
 

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I realize this is PROLLY somewhat of a man thread, and with no gender insult intended, I am very happy to hear the passions that are evident here. I'm not a modder, (altho I make a mean Bonut) and yet, as a D'win owner, I do find this fascinating info and can't wait to keep reading your posts! This is fantastic. Thank you jayvolt.

Bonuts in your atty make you a modder, you modded it! Glad you showed up, it was getting kind of gamy in here, now everyone will shower.
 
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