Is it safe to use mechanical mods - to subohm?
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I use an Extech 380460... It's a very accurate milliohm meter. What I believe he was refering to is a simple voltage divider. You can put the coil in series with a known resistance and measure the voltage drop between the two. A quick calculation will give you the resistance accurate to the milliohm. The extech is easier though!
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This, on both counts. That is one of the milliohm meters I've been looking at. And I may build that circuit, but I think I would want to calibrate the multimeter before trusting it for that kind of accuracy. Yes, Fluke is good, but they do drift off specs after a time.
The big challenge that both of what you are talking about, even using a circuit in between and measuring the offset, is that most multimeters cannot provide and accurate reading under .1 ohms. Using the current testers that you can buy on the market today, you could have a variance as much as +or- .05 ohms. Fluke Meters can be calibrated to as little as .01 plus or minus, but regardless of what you put in line with it (a circuit) the accuracy of the meter is still going to come in to play.
Granted, putting in a circuit at a higher ohm reading, will increase the accuracy of the meter exponentially more so than trying to get an accurate reading below .1 ohms. The accuracy a person trying to build at less than .1 ohm needs to obtain, is still a hit or miss proposition. That said, subohming below .1 ohm is like playing Russian Roulette. How accurate the meter that is used is determines how many bullets are in the gun.
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Actually no. If you put it in a circuit with a known resistance you can measure the voltage drop and calculate the exact resistance to the milliohm. Note I said measure the voltage drop. Not the resistance. The meter is more accurate with voltage, and it scales very well, so it doesn't have to be super accurate with the measurement to get a very accurate result for resistance. You just have to make sure your known resistance is very low tolerance.
It's a trick us electronic junkies use before we had access to great milliohm meters.
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Actually no. If you put it in a circuit with a known resistance you can measure the voltage drop and calculate the exact resistance to the milliohm. Note I said measure the voltage drop. Not the resistance. The meter is more accurate with voltage, and it scales very well, so it doesn't have to be super accurate with the measurement to get a very accurate result for resistance. You just have to make sure your known resistance is very low tolerance.
It's a trick us electronic junkies use before we had access to great milliohm meters.
Put your way, I can understand what your talking about. However, I remain committed that subohm builds below .1 ohm are basically a game of Russian Roulette.
Sorry to hijack this thread OP. My Lambo collection minus Huracan which is on order.
I may or may not own the real ones. I wouldn't tell because it's a private matter. Hmmm but why would I own just these scale models..... hmmmm. But I can tell you this, I don't own that Sesto Elemento which is next to impossible to get.
I may or may not own the real ones. I wouldn't tell because it's a private matter. Hmmm but why would I own just these scale models..... hmmmm. But I can tell you this, I don't own that Sesto Elemento which is next to impossible to get.
Sorry to hijack this thread OP. My Lambo collection minus Huracan which is on order.
I may or may not own the real ones. I wouldn't tell because it's a private matter. Hmmm but why would I own just these scale models..... hmmmm. But I can tell you this, I don't own that Sesto Elemento which is next to impossible to get.
You are so money! You even have a wood driveway!!! What type of wood is that anyway? Looks rare. Color me jelly!
Remember, you started this thread with safety in mind, but omitted even the use of an ohm meter in your OP.
I am not suggesting going below .1 ohm. But you are already dangerously low for many batteries with .16Ω builds. Although you have been changing out your batts every 90 days, there is no guarantee that they are still within their ideal specs - especially if you've been pushing them that hard. I am just suggesting that if you're going to build that close to battery limits, you should use equipment that will provide the resolution and precision to accurately read that low.
That little faded symbol in my sig banner is the rating badge for a US Navy Electronics Technician. My last two jobs in the USN were repairing and calibrating test equipment in NIST certified cal labs.
OP, would you please consider using some of your time, generosity, and connections in the service of vaping advocacy?
This. So much, this. We need people like you.
Also, I must admit... I have been living vicariously through this thread for the past day or so...
Sorry to hijack this thread OP. My Lambo collection minus Huracan which is on order.
I may or may not own the real ones. I wouldn't tell because it's a private matter. Hmmm but why would I own just these scale models..... hmmmm. But I can tell you this, I don't own that Sesto Elemento which is next to impossible to get.
Isn't that lime one the car that was in missy elliots (not sure if I spelled that right) video a wile back? I think she rented it as well, didn't own it. I know there have been very few made in that color.
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Haha, well shoot. Looks like i stand corrected on the toll comment.
You gotta see were the people (like me) were coming from on your original post though. The "subohm, how low can you go" and "subohm battery safety" is the Holy grail of troll questions on this site and many others. It's asked all day everyday and always turns into an argument at some point. The only question/post subject more talked about and more trolled is the clone vs. Authentic one. That in conjunction with you claimed purchased equipment in the amount of time would put you in the "less than %1" income bracket. Not that there's people that don't have collections that big, there are and there's people with collections many time bigger. It was just the white whale of posts deemed to far fetched to be real.
Just be safe with those subohm coils man. I like to subohm myself, but going as low as your talking about can be dangerous. You gotta lot of cool toys to vape on, and you wanna stick around to vape them... So stay safe. I can see how you would start that low if you got into the game from people that vaped at 0.1ohm or less all the time. But in reality, there is no reason to go that low unless your into cloud competitions. Even then, the "safe" cloud comp people only vape that low for a few pulls to test the coils and to enter the comp... Their normal daily vape resistance is much higher.
It's these kinda bad habits that people on this site are worried about. So many shops coiling people that low that just started out and have crappy batteries, or someone showing a new kid how to build at 0.1ohms.... They think that is "normal", which is far from the truth. I remember when 0.8ohms was considered crazy low. We just worry about these things and don't want anyone in the community to get hurt and/or have the bad press because of it. The media and FDA doesn't need anymore ammo. Even "good batteries" have bad cells here and there. If you titter on the edge, it leaves zero room for human error, mechanical error, or battery stability error.
Anyway, stay safe. That why we're all here, because what we were doing before (cigarettes, tobacco) that was super unsafe. No need to make the replacement just as unsafe or worse.
I really like what you had to say. I am definitely not trying to kill myself or even cloud chase. The guy who has kind of lead me by the hand in to vaping is definitely not out there building rda's for newbies under .3 ohms That is where he started me at. The first time I showed up to his shop with a build I bought online that was at .07, he really gave me a stern warning and suggested that even after I learned to build my own coils, not to ever take that big of a risk.
One of the things I did not make clear in my original post is that I have different builds for different juices. I normally puff on Suicide Bunny Sucker Punch 3mg. I like to puff on it at about .24 to .26 When hit higher nicotine levels with that juice, I often will go up to a .3 or 3.4 build, depending on the nicotine level. Another juice I really like is Holy Grail Berry Confused at 3mg strength. That juice tastes the best to me at .16-.17.
I understand that basically anything under .8 is getting in to the red zone. I do not fool around with anything under .15. I buy the best batteries I can obtain and use the best equipment I can get. Though neither of those guarantee my safety, I at least do what I can to minimize the risks of subohm vaping.
Finally, if I ever find a juice that gives me the same vaping satisfaction of what I currently vape, that does not require subohms to achieve it, I will definitely get away from subohm vaping.
Yes, I would. I give a lot of my time and donations to help worth causes. I am one of the biggest supporters in my area to battered womans shelters and animal shelters (no kill). I have very passionate about helping the vaping community and myself from unnecessary enactments of unfair regulations on vaping.
I can see your car collection makes mine look like a bunch of AMC Pacers sitting at a parking lot of a senior citizen bingo hall, so I will just have to stand to the side while you continue to show off your collections.
so wow... i wish i could have done what you did. i actually started vaping bc i was unemployed and couldn't afford smoking anymore. ive done pretty well for myself in re: to vaping.. but it would be fun to have a lot of money and be able to just cater to my whims. im not judging you in any sense.... heck id love to find a way to be employed or contracted to/with ya.. but that is just another pipe dream (better than a pipe bomb btw )
if you haven't casaa is a great organization that helps vapers rights. check them out and see if they tug at your purse strings...
)if you haven't casaa is a great organization that helps vapers rights. check them out and see if they tug at your purse strings...
.16 dam i thought .7 was pushing my vtc3 Sony. I find all that hard to believe.. 400 plus devices and all authentic why dont you find another hobby besides vaping. I dont believe buying much mods and drippers is a very good investment..
.7ohm is no where near pushing your VTC3. Assuming a fully charged battery and no voltage drop, you are only pulling 6A out of the battery.
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