Is this how we start our own media blitz?

[Boom!]

I think suppliers/re-sellers/distributors need to follow eCigaretteChoice's example.

Going to quote Rob from another thread:

I printed some stuff up for him to read and he's cool with it now.

So far all the customers I have emailed with about the FDA release think it's trash.

Basically, I see a lot of these types of quotes and a lot of facts being shared around here for all of us to use as shields when we get cornered by someone who only knows/believes what they've recently been fed from the media. All great stuff and appreciated and I see lots of people posting 'contact your local media' and such but is it that simple? Seems to me a lot of the local news is limited to just 'public interest' and what stories the corporate office approves them to run. It looks pretty simple to get a story published on 24-7pressrelease.com. Distribution plans from $49 to $349 bucks.

I think it would be awesome if all supplier/re-sellers could somehow find a way to get some type of 'statement' like this one from eCigarettesChoice out as a press release. I can already see the next media blitz of headlines saying something like, "More and more suppliers release statements pleased with FDA proof that e-cigs are saferer than tobacco cigarettes".

Can you imagine the folks at ASH choking on headlines like that?!
Muahahahahaha!


Which one of you suppliers is going to step up and post the next one?

 

[BigJimW]

I've been doing this for awhile now

Public Health Physicians Expose Double Standard in the FDA's Study of Electronic Cigarettes

Electronic Cigarette Company Claims FDA Study Proves E-Cigarettes Are Safer Than Tobacco Cigarettes

But your right, it is a start.

 

[BigJimW]

One quick thing I learned today. I just checked the stats of my press releases and they're being linked to no less than 5 other sites. So if collectivally we do this, you would be very surprised as to how fast we can spread the news.

 

[TropicalBob]

Sadly, and I do mean sadly, we do not have the clout or believability of the FDA. Or the opposing health organizations. We cannot hope to have our voices heard as loudly as those in opposition to us. That's just a fact of the news business. We have no credentials, no science, no respected spokesperson (yeh, I know about the ones beloved here).

BigJim has kind of a "viral" thing going with YouTube videos. That's good. That's our best hope at this late juncture. Don't hold out hope that our "voices of reason" will make headlines. And forget paying to be part of some PR wire. Real media mostly ignores PR wires, giving them only a cursory scan.

Remember that there is nothing anyone here can do to influence the judge's decision coming soon in the SE-njoy lawsuit against the FDA. That's the critical point at this time, not public opinion. If the judge rules for the FDA, the path is cleared for an immediate ban.

 

[BigJimW]

Sadly, and I do mean sadly, we do not have the clout or believability of the FDA. Or the opposing health organizations. We cannot hope to have our voices heard as loudly as those in opposition to us. That's just a fact of the news business. We have no credentials, no science, no respected spokesperson (yeh, I know about the ones beloved here).

BigJim has kind of a "viral" thing going with YouTube videos. That's good. That's our best hope at this late juncture. Don't hold out hope that our "voices of reason" will make headlines. And forget paying to be part of some PR wire. Real media mostly ignores PR wires, giving them only a cursory scan.

Remember that there is nothing anyone here can do to influence the judge's decision coming soon in the SE-Njoy lawsuit against the FDA. That's the critical point at this time, not public opinion. If the judge rules for the FDA, the path is cleared for an immediate ban.

Well, I just sent one of the big releases to the Associated Press info@ap.org (as it has national significance). We'll see what happens now. Probably nothing, but with the source list at the end, it won't be easy to simply ignore.

 

[Boom!]

You may say I'm just trying to be optimistic here but I really think this could work.

One supplier has posted a press release using 24-7pressrelease - it got picked up by several news sources and a lot of us on here forwarded links about it. How much more attention do you think we could muster if there were say just 5 more suppliers willing to invest in one of those press release distribution packs? They can think of it as marketing! I'd really like to know how many hits their website got after ecigarettechoice did their press release! Now say 5 more issue a "press release" giving pretty much the same story as the others...before we know it, those news outlets that you say are just giving a cursory glance are seeing more and more suppliers echoing the same sentiments and then one finally picks it up and says, "here's a story".

BOOM! Instead of doing their own reporting these "journalist" feed off of each other like crazy and pretty soon you see the same story repeated over and over again...sound familiar to anyone?

I get the case and a lot (everything?) hangs in the hands of what the judge has to say. I'm just not going to sit here like a good boy and wait while the e-cig to continues to get beat down as a dangerous device. Rouse the mob! Spread the facts! Let people know and get upset! Maybe save someone's life... For all we really know, this case could go on, and on, and on...how long will you just sit and wait? Who was on the fence trying to quit smoking today and didn't because of all the scary stuff they heard on the news?

 

[HighTech]

You may say I'm just trying to be optimistic here but I really think this could work.

One supplier has posted a press release using 24-7pressrelease - it got picked up by several news sources and a lot of us on here forwarded links about it. How much more attention do you think we could muster if there were say just 5 more suppliers willing to invest in one of those press release distribution packs? They can think of it as marketing! I'd really like to know how many hits their website got after ecigarettechoice did their press release! Now say 5 more issue a "press release" giving pretty much the same story as the others...before we know it, those news outlets that you say are just giving a cursory glance are seeing more and more suppliers echoing the same sentiments and then one finally picks it up and says, "here's a story".

BOOM! Instead of doing their own reporting these "journalist" feed off of each other like crazy and pretty soon you see the same story repeated over and over again...sound familiar to anyone?

I get the case and a lot (everything?) hangs in the hands of what the judge has to say. I'm just not going to sit here like a good boy and wait while the e-cig to continues to get beat down as a dangerous device. Rouse the mob! Spread the facts! Let people know and get upset! Maybe save someone's life... For all we really know, this case could go on, and on, and on...how long will you just sit and wait? Who was on the fence trying to quit smoking today and didn't because of all the scary stuff they heard on the news?

I sure am glad to see some of you are not so pessimistic. Regardless what the FDA does, the truth must be told. Regardless if the FDA bans importation, the truth must be told. Regardless if the FDA shuts down every juice maker in the US, the truth must be told. We are talking about millions of lives here, the corruption must be exposed and the TRUTH MUST BE TOLD!

 

[BigJimW]

I sure am glad to see some of you are not so pessimistic. Regardless what the FDA does, the truth must be told. Regardless if the FDA bans importation, the truth must be told. Regardless if the FDA shuts down every juice maker in the US, the truth must be told. We are talking about millions of lives here, the corruption must be exposed and the TRUTH MUST BE TOLD!

Yup. Agreed. Even if the FDA bans them, people need to know WHY.

 

[TropicalBob]

What truth? Whose truth? Based on which clinical trials and studies?

If you don't do your homework, don't expect an "A" for your common sense answer on the important test.

There were two telling paragraphs in a recent story about e-cigs having a hazy future. Read them and note the blunt truth in the last sentence:

Nicotine can raise blood pressure, cause strokes and harm those with underlying health conditions. People cannot go into the store and buy nicotine, said Barry Johnson, a Fort Worth respiratory therapist and a volunteer with the American Lung Association.

“The FDA is not sure these things do what they say, and we want to make sure we know before we release these things to the public,” Johnson said. “This is done with all types of medical devices. When you deal with the government, you deal with them on their terms, not yours.”

And e-cigs didn't meet their terms. And e-cigs are now paying the penalty.

 

[MVP]

I can go into the store and buy nicotine-gum,patches,soon nicotrol, cigars,cigarettes,etc,etc..All FDA approved
WTF is Barry Johnson talking about?

 

[HighTech]

What truth? Whose truth? Based on which clinical trials and studies?

If you don't do your homework, don't expect an "A" for your common sense answer on the important test.

There were two telling paragraphs in a recent story about e-cigs having a hazy future. Read them and note the blunt truth in the last sentence:



And e-cigs didn't meet their terms. And e-cigs are now paying the penalty.

My post was not about whether the FDA bans the ecig or not, or if the industry followed protocol, because you are probably right, they will do what they want to do and ban what they see fit.

My point was about the corruptive and misleading way in which the FDA released a report to sway public opinion. You very well know what they did and that is the practice of the FDA (and a lot of other agencies) that needs to be exposed.

 

[BigJimW]

My point was about the corruptive and misleading way in which the FDA released a report to sway public opinion. You very well know what they did and that is the practice of the FDA (and a lot of other agencies) that needs to be exposed.

And that they did. I just re-read the report and it's not hard to see the incompetence to it.

Most of the people I deal with agree off the bat that this is nothing more than a sham report with the goal of money in mind. The only "argument" i have to give is rubbing my thumb and fingers together.

 

[EdensDaddy]

Money is part of my initiative as well... I'd like to save a little more of it.

But why talk BAN? Why not just perform some tests? I am sure there are plenty of smokers that will be happy to be tested for a duration on analogs then test the same subjects on a regimen of vapor... There would be no problem finding people willing to actually be paid to get free cigarettes and free vapor for the sake of science. They are called focus groups. They have them for sleep studies, blood pressure meds, male "enhancement" and even "Do you like this sitcom?"

I think everyone here knows what kind of feedback they would be receiving! Smell, taste, deeper breaths, cleaner, confident, etc etc etc. Besides, I wouldn't mind seeing a real switch comparison. Can I get an AMEN???

 

[Boom!]

This just popped up on my Google News page this evening!

I love the headline!

FDA report : Electronic Cigarettes are much safer than tobacco cigarettes

Excellent work! I hope more suppliers step up and take this sort of an approach! This is exactly what I'm talking about. WTG e-cigarettedirect

 

[Momof3]

If you have the money, you can put just about anything you want on the front page of any newspaper anywhere. You can take out full page ads, half page, whatever, in prominent newspapers across the nation. You can present whatever information you choose with whatever spin you want to put on it and if you write it up like a regular article many people will miss the fact it is an ad and give it credence as factual news.

 

[gizzmogirl]

I am surprised that someone hasn't gotten a smoker(ex-smoker i think) like John Stewart from the Daily Show to do a piece on VP's and the FDA moving to ban these devices. All of the other news shows from FOX to CNN watch the daily show, maybe the word would spread to a larger base? He loves to expose government issues. Just a thought

 

[Zben504]

Thanks for all the links guys. These have a lot of great information for my customers.

 

[Vocalek]

I can go into the store and buy nicotine-gum,patches,soon nicotrol, cigars,cigarettes,etc,etc..All FDA approved
WTF is Barry Johnson talking about?

And consider the sentence before that: "Nicotine can raise blood pressure, cause strokes and harm those with underlying health conditions."

1. When he, as a doctor, says "can raise blood pressure," he is implying it causes hypertension. Untrue. **Nicotine protects against hypertension. Nicotine temporarily raises blood pressure, which goes back down again a few minutes after you used it. Same thing happens when you exercise!
2. Strokes? There isn't a shred of evidence nicotine causes strokes. Maybe he is thinking of tobacco smoking?
3. Harm those with underlying conditions? So he believes that if those with underlying conditions continue smoking tobacco instead that they are less likely to be harmed?

Agreed: WTF is Barry Johnson talking about? Is he just naive, or is he purposely being misleading?

**Journal references available upon request. But also go read the comments at the Electronic Petition Site. Thousands are reporting that their blood pressure has gone down (as has mine).