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I've never used a tank setup or had to deal with the fidgeting that apparently is part of using one. Have been using simple box mod with cartos for 2+ years. This piece interests me. Was thinking of ordering one along with a protank mini.

- Will tanks be too frustrating to get working properly (coming from a simple setup)?
- Who has the best price? I see it around $100 in webshops and around $80 on ebay.
- Have never used unprotected cells. To tell when it's time to charge, you just go by the battery indicator light color on the mod? I'm worried about over-discharging.
- Does the protank mini fit in where it's supposed to go on the mod? Definitely don't want it hanging on the top.

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I've never used a tank setup or had to deal with the fidgeting that apparently is part of using one. Have been using simple box mod with cartos for 2+ years. This piece interests me. Was thinking of ordering one along with a protank mini.

- Will tanks be too frustrating to get working properly (coming from a simple setup)?
Shouldn't be any different than any other device. Just watch the diameter.
- Who has the best price? I see it around $100 in webshops and around $80 on ebay.
Shop around, I've seen them as low as $70.00 from US vendors
- Have never used unprotected cells. To tell when it's time to charge, you just go by the battery indicator light color on the mod? I'm worried about over-discharging.
Don't worry, be happy! Seriously, the VTR shuts down long before any damage will occur. Mine shuts down at about 3.3 volts and going as low as 2.7 volts is fine, so no problem.
- Does the protank mini fit in where it's supposed to go on the mod? Definitely don't want it hanging on the top.
I use Protank IIs on mine, but use a long drip tip. The VTR does need a taller tank to get the mouthpiece up high enough to be comfortable.

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Matt

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I've never used a tank setup or had to deal with the fidgeting that apparently is part of using one. Have been using simple box mod with cartos for 2+ years. This piece interests me. Was thinking of ordering one along with a protank mini.

- Will tanks be too frustrating to get working properly (coming from a simple setup)?
Tanks are much faster to fill than cartos and the increased juice capacity means less frequent filling. However, there is more to go wrong with a tank. I general vape 70PF/30VG juice and have never found tanks fiddly but there is no shortage of people who do. In particular, feeding thick, high VG juice can sometimes be a challenge.

- Who has the best price? I see it around $100 in webshops and around $80 on ebay.
Their site say they are 3 to 4 days behind on shipping but 101 Vape has the Camo VTR for $64.99. Venerable Vaping has the normal, shiny VTR for $74.99.

Some U.S. sellers on eBay have the VTR for a little less but e-cig stuff is still against eBay and PayPal policies. It happens rarely but there have been instances of PayPal shutting down accounts for months for even e-cig buyers.

- Have never used unprotected cells. To tell when it's time to charge, you just go by the battery indicator light color on the mod? I'm worried about over-discharging.
The VTR has battery over discharge protection. The light will go red and it will shortly shut down thereafter. However, you get more total hours of use from the batteries if they are lightly charged so I generally change out my batteries every time I fill a tank.

- Does the protank mini fit in where it's supposed to go on the mod? Definitely don't want it hanging on the top.

The Pro Tank mini would fit but there is no particular reason settle for the mini because the Pro Tank with more juice capacity will fit. There have been some issues with the Pro Tank 3 so you might want to stick with the Pro Tank 2.

I have found the flavor and vapor production for the iClear 30s that comes with the VTR to be better than that of the Pro Tank. However, it is a plastic tank that can be destroyed by tank cracking juices, the replacement heads are expensive and can't be rebuilt.
 

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Me too... I just use Ibtanked tanks and the cartos from their site and the ohm reading dealio doesn't impact my vaping at all because I don't use it for anything

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I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but... If your VTR has the rotating 510 connector you ARE effected by the varying ohm problem no matter what delivery system you may use. Example, if it reads the delivery device high, it will deliver more power, regardless of the mode, to maintain the power level, or voltage level, you set it for. That can result in burnt taste or even a fried coil.
 

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I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but... If your VTR has the rotating 510 connector you ARE effected by the varying ohm problem no matter what delivery system you may use. Example, if it reads the delivery device high, it will deliver more power, regardless of the mode, to maintain the power level, or voltage level, you set it for. That can result in burnt taste or even a fried coil.

But I haven't experienced a bad vape at all.... I rarely change my settings, maybe one Watt up or down depending on the fluid, so since early October every day and been perfectly content...... when does the bad taste and burnt coil set in exactly? I dealt with that on Protanks and clearomizers on an ego or mech but since vtr and Ibtanked I've been happily vaping for months straight.....
 

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If the resistance reading varies, you will, eventually, experience some problems. This is not related to the power adjustment wheel but to the mount at the bottom for the 510 connector. If you have an early version of the VTR that mount actually rotates and that's what causes false resistance readings.
 

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Also can u get skins for them yet.

Wraps have been available since the device debuted. Here's my custom from vaporskinz.

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If the resistance reading varies, you will, eventually, experience some problems. This is not related to the power adjustment wheel but to the mount at the bottom for the 510 connector. If you have an early version of the VTR that mount actually rotates and that's what causes false resistance readings.

Right, but if I'm buying 3.2 ohm cartos for my tanks, always set it between 4 and 6 watts, the resistance meter on the VTR shows 3.1-3.4 ohms every time, and I have an awesome, hassle free vape experience, what am I missing?
 

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What I am saying is that IF you have the rotating mount there can be a problem, 3.2 ohms or 1.2 ohm, 4 watts or 10 watts, if the resistance reading goes haywire. Typically, a low current is used to sense the resistance each time the VTR fires. After determining the resistance it raises the power to whatever it is set for based on that reading. Problem is that the higher current can "clear" the problem that provided a high reading, hence extra power gets delivered, beyond what is actually required.

If you have a rotating mount model, count yourself among the lucky few that haven't had a problem, but keep an eye on it, just in case.
 
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What I am saying is that IF you have the rotating mount there can be a problem, 3.2 ohms or 1.2 ohm, 4 watts or 10 watts, if the resistance reading goes haywire. Typically, a low current is used to sense the resistance each time the VTR fires. After determining the resistance it raises the power to whatever it is set for based on that reading. Problem is that the higher current can "clear" the problem that provided a high reading, hence extra power gets delivered, beyond what is actually required.

If you have a rotating mount model, count yourself among the lucky few that haven't had a problem, but keep an eye on it, just in case.

10-4, thanks much
 
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