Yep, I am the proud owner of a brand new 8" sieve. Now I will get some spares to never use.....
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I've never figured it out either. The only one I've replaced was for the one bought in the classes. All others still look new..with the oldest being 6 months too.
Lowest i've gone is 1.3ohm though.
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Got a clone the other day. Branded with the "SvoMesro" logo. Sorry for spelling. The name and the logo is the exact same thing. Yea it's a clone, but vapes just like the original.
Got my EHPro KFL+ clone yesterday and yeah, now I see what the noise is all about. The quality was very impressive, threads were good etc. I gave it a good washing and built a middle of the road 30ga micro coil at 1.8 ohm wicked with cotton for it. Damn! Building it was simple, and it vapes really nicely with awesome flavor. No leaking, no dry hits, just great, great performance.
I have a 3 strand 32ga twisted coil waiting to go into it right now, nothing crazy or sub ohm, but It is vaping so nicely with the ho-hum coil in it now, I don't want to take it apart! Really, really good.
I have a 3 strand 32ga twisted coil waiting to go into it right now, nothing crazy or sub ohm, but It is vaping so nicely with the ho-hum coil in it now, I don't want to take it apart! Really, really good.
I now wonder why I hesitated so long before I tried the EHPro KFL+..... it really is a nice clone. Super easy to install the coil and no problems whatsoever. Maybe I'll try one of the Tobeco's next now that I'm brave....
I KNEW I shouldn't have posted about not having to replace the insulator on the real KFL. Had a mishap with the Fasttech Nemesis clone and melted my insulator on my way home from work last night
Good thing I ordered 10 ;pMaster of Bassets...and not much else.
Hey folks, I wanted to get some input to see if the conditions which I detail are normal or not. Alright, so I've been using the KFL+ for almost a month and after much trial and error (which still persists sadly because these things are not as easy as people make them out to be...well at least not in my experiences anyways) I've got my builds and wicking alright I would say. I definitely think it could be better though. I notice a decrease in flavor after a little while and I'm not sure if that is just vapers tongue or what. I also notice that the more I vape, the less vapor production there is if I'm vaping it frequently. I'm doing a coil and cotton build ~1.4-1.7 ohms and using this on a provari just for a little background information. The voltage for these I don't quite know yet because I honestly can't figure out which voltage works best (insert sad face here because I get annoyed daily trying to work through this). The current settings on a 1.7 ohm coil are at 3.7 V but I feel flavor is muted and distorted compared to vaping it a 3.5 V. However, vapor production is better. TH is not really there as I haven't felt that pressure build up. I'm using 12 mg juice in it (using Deadly Sin as well if that helps). 18 mg in a ego style device is producing more TH and more vapor. It's driving me crazy honestly. I have to change out the wick (with Deadly Sin and other similar juices with the same pg/vg ratio and clearish color) nearly every tank because the coil is black and the taste is foul. However, the wick has no burnt spots, isn't dried out and is still looking good.
In addition to these troubles, one of the biggest things that is concerning me is that after vaping it for a couple of minutes, the kayfun itself begins to heat up and becomes quite warm to the touch. I'm not sure if this is normal or not, but that's what happens and this is also when I start to notice a decline in vapor production. The provari hasn't said the device has overheated or anything, but it feels very warm. At first, I thought that maybe I had a lengthy lead or something, but I didn't. There was no wire extending out from the screws that hold the coil in place. My next thought was maybe my coil was touching the deck or something. Again, it was lifted just a couple of mm off the deck. I'm just so confused and a bit frustrated because I feel like I'm having more problems than I should.
In addition to these troubles, one of the biggest things that is concerning me is that after vaping it for a couple of minutes, the kayfun itself begins to heat up and becomes quite warm to the touch. I'm not sure if this is normal or not, but that's what happens and this is also when I start to notice a decline in vapor production. The provari hasn't said the device has overheated or anything, but it feels very warm. At first, I thought that maybe I had a lengthy lead or something, but I didn't. There was no wire extending out from the screws that hold the coil in place. My next thought was maybe my coil was touching the deck or something. Again, it was lifted just a couple of mm off the deck. I'm just so confused and a bit frustrated because I feel like I'm having more problems than I should.
Hey Doc. No or little vapor is usually due to lack of juice to the coil. I say that because 1.4-1.7 ohm coils should be performing fine at 3.7-4.0 volts under normal circumstances. You didn't say what gauge kanthal your coil is built with. If it is 28ga it can take some time to warm up and may require a bit more power to work correctly. You also didn't say what your wicking material is. I am using cotton. Enough to slide into the coil with a bit of resistance. Then I trim it to about the same width as the base. Wet it well with juice, then I nest it against the vertical wall of the build deck, keeping it away from the juice channels (it lays on the small deck below the build deck, pushed up against the wall, but back from the juice channel). If you do this correctly, you should be able to screw on the lower chimney portion without having to fiddle with the wicks.
Every so often, take a primer puff without firing your device. You should see a little air bubble rise up; that means the juice is feeding properly. The height of your coil above the build deck and air hole is important too. I set it at about 1mm. The coil should be centered above the air hole on the build deck; I usually set it diagonally between the posts, this allows the wet wick to make kind of an "S" shape as it exits the coil and lays on the lip below the build deck.
For the record, a good coil to use for baseline is a 30ga micro coil, wrapped on a 5/64" drill bit or screwdriver, 9 wraps will come in at 1.8 ohm +/-. Set it and wick it as described, and see how it goes from there. If you are still having problems, feel free to PM me, and I will tear mine down so you can see what I am doing. Good luck.
Every so often, take a primer puff without firing your device. You should see a little air bubble rise up; that means the juice is feeding properly. The height of your coil above the build deck and air hole is important too. I set it at about 1mm. The coil should be centered above the air hole on the build deck; I usually set it diagonally between the posts, this allows the wet wick to make kind of an "S" shape as it exits the coil and lays on the lip below the build deck.
For the record, a good coil to use for baseline is a 30ga micro coil, wrapped on a 5/64" drill bit or screwdriver, 9 wraps will come in at 1.8 ohm +/-. Set it and wick it as described, and see how it goes from there. If you are still having problems, feel free to PM me, and I will tear mine down so you can see what I am doing. Good luck.
Not knowing the gauge of the coil but knowing he is using cotton sounds like the juice channels may be partially occluded. I know this happened when I first tried cotton due to using too much. Pain in the neck, but soon as you get the cotton reduced down to the right amount, things change rapidly.
Background:
I started vaping and stopped smoking over 2 years ago, using those nasty clear test-tube clearos from Volcano. About a year ago, a friend introduced me to the Kanger EVOD and it was like heaven. Shortly thereafter, I went on a juice hunt, trying many of the top vendors, and found my e-juice home at Ahlusion. Their juice is nothing short of extraordinary.
Within the past year I’ve learned to rebuild the Protank/EVOD coils, and get pretty good results, though it’s sometimes hit or miss. I’ve also tried the Smoktech Pyrex ARO, and like the ARO2 with a Kanger coil in it.
Lately I’ve been frustrated with the “hit or miss” nature of both the stock and my rebuilt coils. One could be great, and the next one just “so-so”. I decided to see if there was something better out there, and everything pointed to the Kayfun, so about 2 weeks ago I ordered my first Kayfun Lite Plus from inTaste and a Provari Mini from ProVape.
Missing Parts:
My KFL+ arrived this past Monday without a positive post insulator or a center pin insulator, but since I’d never seen one before, I didn’t know, and couldn’t figure out why the KFL would not register any resistance with a beautiful, correctly installed micro coil. Thanks to the great folks on this thread I was able to make a temporary positive post insulator from an old credit card, and that’s doing the trick until replacements arrive on Friday. InTaste was super fast and helpful too, and is also sending me the replacement parts. I wonder if these are assembled at SvoëMesto or by inTaste, with parts from SvoëMesto?
My First Coil (Micro with Cotton)– Perfect:
I like the idea of a micro with cotton because of the ease of re-wicking, but in spite of all the raves about this setup, I was dubious, because after extensive attempts, I was never able to build micro/cotton heads for the EVOD that gave me as much flavor as silica, but I decided to try the micro/cotton for the KFL first.
I used this PBusardo video as a guide, along with info throm this forum. 6 tight wraps of 30 gauge on a 3/32” drill bit (I think that’s about 2.4mm) gave me a perfect 1.8 Ω coil. Filled it up with Ahlusion Maple Dream 50pg/50vg, and set the Provari to 3.9 volts.
First Vape:
At 3 or 4 draws I was not impressed. Flavor was muted, and I thought, ACK! Typical cotton! But then the magic kicked in and the flavor and vapor from this thing kicked me off my ...!
Conclusion:
The Kayfun Lite Plus lives up to every positive word I’ve read about it: Absolutely full, full, full mouth-watering flavor and lots of fragrant vapor. No dry hits down to the last drop in the tank. No burnt hits, except when I overfilled the tank, and no leaks. I’m on day 3 with the same coil/wick, and the flavor is still completely delicious. BTW, I did a side by side comparison with an EVOD that is performing very well, and it’s no contest. This KFL is da absolute bomb!
The problem now is that I want another one, or two, and of course, I’ll need another Provari. (I got accustomed to having 2 or 3 flavors going with my EVODs.) So now the purchase rationalizing begins. Maybe try a clone?
I started vaping and stopped smoking over 2 years ago, using those nasty clear test-tube clearos from Volcano. About a year ago, a friend introduced me to the Kanger EVOD and it was like heaven. Shortly thereafter, I went on a juice hunt, trying many of the top vendors, and found my e-juice home at Ahlusion. Their juice is nothing short of extraordinary.
Within the past year I’ve learned to rebuild the Protank/EVOD coils, and get pretty good results, though it’s sometimes hit or miss. I’ve also tried the Smoktech Pyrex ARO, and like the ARO2 with a Kanger coil in it.
Lately I’ve been frustrated with the “hit or miss” nature of both the stock and my rebuilt coils. One could be great, and the next one just “so-so”. I decided to see if there was something better out there, and everything pointed to the Kayfun, so about 2 weeks ago I ordered my first Kayfun Lite Plus from inTaste and a Provari Mini from ProVape.
Missing Parts:
My KFL+ arrived this past Monday without a positive post insulator or a center pin insulator, but since I’d never seen one before, I didn’t know, and couldn’t figure out why the KFL would not register any resistance with a beautiful, correctly installed micro coil. Thanks to the great folks on this thread I was able to make a temporary positive post insulator from an old credit card, and that’s doing the trick until replacements arrive on Friday. InTaste was super fast and helpful too, and is also sending me the replacement parts. I wonder if these are assembled at SvoëMesto or by inTaste, with parts from SvoëMesto?
My First Coil (Micro with Cotton)– Perfect:
I like the idea of a micro with cotton because of the ease of re-wicking, but in spite of all the raves about this setup, I was dubious, because after extensive attempts, I was never able to build micro/cotton heads for the EVOD that gave me as much flavor as silica, but I decided to try the micro/cotton for the KFL first.
I used this PBusardo video as a guide, along with info throm this forum. 6 tight wraps of 30 gauge on a 3/32” drill bit (I think that’s about 2.4mm) gave me a perfect 1.8 Ω coil. Filled it up with Ahlusion Maple Dream 50pg/50vg, and set the Provari to 3.9 volts.
First Vape:
At 3 or 4 draws I was not impressed. Flavor was muted, and I thought, ACK! Typical cotton! But then the magic kicked in and the flavor and vapor from this thing kicked me off my ...!
Conclusion:
The Kayfun Lite Plus lives up to every positive word I’ve read about it: Absolutely full, full, full mouth-watering flavor and lots of fragrant vapor. No dry hits down to the last drop in the tank. No burnt hits, except when I overfilled the tank, and no leaks. I’m on day 3 with the same coil/wick, and the flavor is still completely delicious. BTW, I did a side by side comparison with an EVOD that is performing very well, and it’s no contest. This KFL is da absolute bomb!
The problem now is that I want another one, or two, and of course, I’ll need another Provari. (I got accustomed to having 2 or 3 flavors going with my EVODs.) So now the purchase rationalizing begins. Maybe try a clone?
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Would love to hear comparisons from those who have used an authentic KFL+ as well as a clone. Love my new KFL+ and would like another, but not wild about spending another $110.
I know some of you are liking the EHPro clone. Anyone used both the clone and the original?
I know some of you are liking the EHPro clone. Anyone used both the clone and the original?
magicmyst - I really enjoyed reading your post because it reminded me of how this vape journey evolves for us over time.
I'm just 1 year analog free (as of March 26 - hurray!) and after all the cartos, clearos and gennys, I wish someone had just handed me a KFL+ and a ProVari and some instructions, right at the very beginning. But I guess I had to start there ... to appreciate here, as much as I do.
Glad it's working out for you too!
I'm just 1 year analog free (as of March 26 - hurray!) and after all the cartos, clearos and gennys, I wish someone had just handed me a KFL+ and a ProVari and some instructions, right at the very beginning. But I guess I had to start there ... to appreciate here, as much as I do.
Glad it's working out for you too!
AMEN to that!I wish someone had just handed me a KFL+ and a ProVari and some instructions, right at the very beginning. But I guess I had to start there ... to appreciate here, as much as I do.
magicmyst, your posts are a fun read. I have sent you another PM. I have OEM kayfun's, a R91 & have tried and use clones. Every device has its strong points, and some draw backs. The first kayfun clones had small air intake holes, drill that out. Some also have shallow juice channels, poor wicking. I even got a kayfun clone from ebay (once) the air intake was not even drilled out. There are lots of special parts now available for the kayfuns, IE top caps and glass tank kits. I like the nano 22mm tanks on my kayfuns. I also have 2 glass kit'd kayfuns. The choices are great for extras, compared to last year. But the OEM's are perfect out of the box.
PS found my e-juice home at Ahlusion. I have yet to try Ahlusion juice line, but have heard great things about it.
PS found my e-juice home at Ahlusion. I have yet to try Ahlusion juice line, but have heard great things about it.
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Purchased the EHPro last week and when I rec'd it compared it to an original. The clone seemed a little lighter although I did not weigh it to confirm. Build quality seemed fine to my untrained eye. It works just as well as an original. Obviously all of my comparisons are subjective but if it has the same feel and taste I'm OK with it. It certainly allows me to have more of them if I want from a price standpoint though I don't know who will be around the longest for parts and support... probably neither....
It's out of stock right now, but the new black edition clone from privatedeal on eBay is stellar. New 2mm airhole and has no whistle at all. I've owned approx 10 authentic kfl+, russian91 and 14 clones of pretty much every single clone variants out there, and I would recommend that one.
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Anyone have the "Helmut" drip tip from modish metal works on their kayfun with pictures? I'm looking for a drip tip with that style and wanted to see if it matched with the v2
I need some help from your experience with filling and re-filling. On one "to the brim" re-fill I was getting burn hits. I took off the top cap, got the air bubbles out, emptied some of the juice, re-capped, blew it out from the air hole, and was OK.
I'm finding that I get the best flavor when the juice is below the clear section of tank when upright. Above that level, I don't get full flavor.
Any suggestions on filling and re-filling will be greatly appreciated, such as top fill vs. bottom fill, and how much. Thanks!
Oh, and I'm still on my original cotton wick after 3 days! Is that normal? How much mileage do you guys typically get out of a good wick?
I'm finding that I get the best flavor when the juice is below the clear section of tank when upright. Above that level, I don't get full flavor.
Any suggestions on filling and re-filling will be greatly appreciated, such as top fill vs. bottom fill, and how much. Thanks!
Oh, and I'm still on my original cotton wick after 3 days! Is that normal? How much mileage do you guys typically get out of a good wick?
Yeah I am using 28 gauge and doing a cotton wick. I do appreciate the help and advice though from you and everyone else. I'll try redoing some things tonight. Maybe it's just too much wick I'm not sure. I've probably doing about 30 wicks, all varying in different width sizes and it's pretty much the same thing with all of them. Still trying though.
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