List of vendors Age Verification requirements.

[house mouse]

Yup, same here.

Thought I was going to reply "Ditto" after I looked. But no. Has my address right, but the phone # is wrong, and my age is wrong. No wonder I've been so tired lately. I'm 20 years older than I thought I was.

 

[Bea-FL]

@Completely Average thank you so much for your post. I guess we DO have a computer geek in our mist . People dont believe me when I tell them that deleted info can be retrieved and nothing is safe on the net.

 

[HazyShades]

See my post re Bluecheck here: Are you done stocking up?

Age Verification Does not Work.
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[retired1]

Their are some things we have no control over. @retired1 is pretty computer savvy/nerd and he seems to know something about Veratad, so if they were lying about storing personal info, it surely would have been exposed in the last 12 yrs they've been in business. So if retired trusts them, that's good enough for me.

Did I score any points today retired?

Didn't say I trusted them. Just said they've been in business for a long time.

Lemme put it this way. If I don't have complete control over the server, I don't trust it.

And as for the brownie points. Sure. I'm feeling generous today.

 

[Bea-FL]

@tmcase here is one for the list. I ordered batteries from RTD vapor today. They mostly sell batterry stuff but they have some vaping stuff too. I was not asked for AV but I have also ordered from them in the past. I read in other posts that may be the case with other vendors too.

 

[tmcase]

@tmcase here is one for the list. I ordered batteries from RTD vapor today. They mostly sell batterry stuff but they have some vaping stuff too. I was not asked for AV but I have also ordered from them in the past. I read in other posts that may be the case with other vendors too.

Thanks Bea.

 

[house mouse]

@tmcase here is one for the list. I ordered batteries from RTD vapor today. They mostly sell batterry stuff but they have some vaping stuff too. I was not asked for AV but I have also ordered from them in the past. I read in other posts that may be the case with other vendors too.

He also has another site if you want to order batteries from him without AV(If he has to start including it).


Flashlights and Authentic AW Batteries - RTD Electronix

 

[champions]

I just made a test order at Myvaporstore, which uses Veratad. I got through checkout without a hitch. Right below the "Buy" button was:

Age Verification:
We have partnered up with Veratad Technologies, a world class provider of online/real-time Identity Verification and Knowledge Based Authentication Solutions to ensure all customers meet the legal smoking age of the state in which they reside. All orders are filtered through Veratad's AgeMatch Age Verification Service.

If we are unable to verify your age, we will contact you for further verification or ship your order with adult signature required service. Adult signature shipments require an adult 21 years of age with a government issued ID to sign for the package.

I would have rather seen this info before I placed my order.

Now I'll wait and see how long it takes to receive an email asking for verification or a shipping email.

If my order goes through without requiring verification then I'm golden but I will be checking with vendors before I place my order to see what their AVP is. Inconvenient but doable.

Ordered from them this morning and saw no such thing... lol My order has alrady shipped. It was checkout as usual, just like the dozens of times before. Now, Beyondvape on the other hand STILL has not updated my order, shipped, or contacted me. Also not answering their phones or replying to emails.....

 

[jambi]

More for your list...
Bull City Flavors (formerly BCVapor) - No age verification
Nicotine River - No age verification

 

[nomore stinkies]

If I sent just a picture- they would KNOW my age: O L D.

 

[tmcase]

Ordered from them this morning and saw no such thing... lol My order has alrady shipped. It was checkout as usual, just like the dozens of times before. Now, Beyondvape on the other hand STILL has not updated my order, shipped, or contacted me. Also not answering their phones or replying to emails.....

The AV notice was in small print at the bottom of the page. Maybe you missed it and passed?

 

[NavVet1969]

I saw it when I ordered from them last night. Order shipped this afternoon.

 

[tmcase]

Here is the latest compiled list. If anyone see's anything wrong, please let me know.

Veratad – Searches public files for age verification. If they can’t find a match you will be asked to provide some kind of personal ID such as driver’s license. They say they do not store any personal info. This is all done behind the scenes and could delay shipping until verification is complete.

Bluecheck - Collects: SSN #, IP address, the equipment you use to access their website, usage details and probably driver’s license. They do store info on their server and share with subsidiaries, affiliates, contractors, service providers and other third parties
they use to support their business.

No change means the vendor may be using Veratad which is invisible to the buyer unless they cannot find a match, then you will be asked for additional ID OR the vendor isn’t in compliance (yet).
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Misthub – won’t ship to US.

Ecig.com – requires photo ID

Hoosierecig – Wants cell phone #

Sweet-Vapes _ Blue Check

Yougotejuice – Blue Check

DiscountVapers - BlueCheck

Halo - Veratad

Vipervape - Veratad

MyVaporStore - Veratad

Yeti Vapes – veratad

Mount Baker – Blue Check (I don't know why this came out red)

RockinVapeStudios – Wants cell #.

Vape – Drivers License

VAPENW – No change

Nicoticket – Blue Check

Vapewild – No change

Giantvapes - Veratad

Aquavaporcig – Just enter birth year

Beyondvape – Run your name through Google to find a doc that verifies your age.

Myvaporstore – Veratad

Volcanoecigs – No change

swagg sauce – No change

ITCvapes – Blue Check

Cheap Ejuice – No change

RTD vapor – No change

Bull City Flavors (formerly BCVapor) - No change

Nicotine River - No change

One Stop DIY Shop – No change
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MVP says this:

Age Verification:
We have partnered up with Veratad Technologies, a world class provider of online/real-time Identity Verification and Knowledge Based Authentication Solutions to ensure all customers meet the legal smoking age of the state in which they reside. All orders are filtered through Veratad's AgeMatch Age Verification Service.

If we are unable to verify your age, we will contact you for further verification or ship your order with adult signature required service. Adult signature shipments require an adult 21 years of age with a government issued ID to sign for the package.

 

[1buda]

Tried to sign up with BlueCheck. But after reading about them here forget about it! .50/transaction - $250 bucks WTH

 

[bnrkwest]

I work for a company that among other things, finds people, and one of the search criteria that we have available is to search by social security number. We rarely do searches based on SS numbers because of the large number of cases of fraud. Its not at all unusual to find multiple names attached to a single SS number.


Now, that said, BlueCheck absolutely provides your data to other people. You have to read the fine print of their pdf file, but they admit to it.

https://api2.bluecheck.me/modal/data/policy.pdf

We may disclose personal information that we collect or you provide as described in this privacy policy:

•To our subsidiaries and affiliates

•To contractors, service providers and other third parties we use to support our business.

That second one is a big worry for me. Any company that gives them money is a "third party which they use to support their business", so selling your info to other companies, advertisers, etc... is acceptable within their written policy.


Veratad is also worrisome, albeit less so than BlueCheck. While they claim to get all of their information from "publicly accessible sources" and don't necessarily require user input to be verified, that doesn't mean they aren't handling and storing sensitive information about you. For example, if you own a home your property tax records are publicly available. They can use that and your IP address to verify your location, but that also means they are accessing and/or storing your IP address as well as state, county, and/or city tax information about you. That would obviously include your full legal name, your address, and the value of your home. And yes, they share this information with their subsidiaries, partners, and contractors, but not with 3rd parties or service providers.


As for hacking, I can assure you that no one is safe from being hacked. I do internet security for a living. I've worked with fortune 500 financial institutions and military contractors. I can assure you that if banks, military weapons designers, the DNC, and government websites can be hacked then there is nothing making Veratad or BlueCheck immune from such hacking attempts. Their only real security is in the lack of useful information that a foreign entity or serious hacker would get. With no credit card data, no bank account numbers, and no vital secret information there is little reason for a serious hacker to waste time on them. But if one were inclined to do so I have no doubt that they could.


Now if you really want to be scared, one of the companies I deal with daily is LexisNexis and their subsidiary Accurint. These are the people law enforcement and the government use to find information about you. The amount of personal information about you that is available through them is shocking. You give me a name and a zip code and I can find every address they've ever lived at, every phone number they've ever had including cell phones, every place they've ever worked, how much they've claimed on their taxes every year for the past 20 years, etc... And I can get all of that information about every one of their relatives as well.

Of course I would likely end up in jail for misusing their system, but the data they have is absolutely frightening.

Yikes!

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Here is the latest compiled list. If anyone see's anything wrong, please let me know.

Veratad – Searches public files for age verification. If they can’t find a match you will be asked to provide some kind of personal ID such as driver’s license. They say they do not store any personal info. This is all done behind the scenes and could delay shipping until verification is complete.

Bluecheck - Collects: SSN #, IP address, the equipment you use to access their website, usage details and probably driver’s license. They do store info on their server and share with subsidiaries, affiliates, contractors, service providers and other third parties
they use to support their business.

No change means the vendor may be using Veratad which is invisible to the buyer unless they cannot find a match, then you will be asked for additional ID OR the vendor isn’t in compliance (yet).
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Misthub – won’t ship to US.

Ecig.com – requires photo ID

Hoosierecig – Wants cell phone #

Sweet-Vapes _ Blue Check

Yougotejuice – Blue Check

DiscountVapers - BlueCheck

Halo - Veratad _wants SSN

Vipervape - Veratad

MyVaporStore - Veratad

Yeti Vapes – veratad

Mount Baker – Blue Check

RockinVapeStudios – Wants cell #.

Vape – Drivers License

VAPENW – No change

Nicoticket – Blue Check

Vapewild – No change

Giantvapes - Veratad

Aquavaporcig – Just enter birth year

Beyondvape – Run your name through Google to find a doc that verifies your age.

Myvaporstore – Veratad

Volcanoecigs – No change

swagg sauce – No change

ITCvapes – Blue Check

Cheap Ejuice – No change

RTD vapor – No change

Bull City Flavors (formerly BCVapor) - No change

Nicotine River - No change
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MVP says this:

Age Verification:
We have partnered up with Veratad Technologies, a world class provider of online/real-time Identity Verification and Knowledge Based Authentication Solutions to ensure all customers meet the legal smoking age of the state in which they reside. All orders are filtered through Veratad's AgeMatch Age Verification Service.

If we are unable to verify your age, we will contact you for further verification or ship your order with adult signature required service. Adult signature shipments require an adult 21 years of age with a government issued ID to sign for the package.

Ecig.com asks for dob and last 4 ssn. And uses EVS

 

[champions]

Don't see One Stop DIY Shop on the list. Ordered with no issue. Same as always

 

[tmcase]

Ecig.com asks for dob and last 4 ssn. And uses EVS

You didn't get a page after you hit "Place this order" that said to send them a pic of your driver's license?

Edit: what is EVS?

 

[Fozzy71]

Ecig.com asks for dob and last 4 ssn. And uses EVS

meh, got a cart loaded up there I wanted to order later. may have to reconsider and shop for the items elsewhere.

 

[tmcase]

Don't see One Stop DIY Shop on the list. Ordered with no issue. Same as always

Now you do.
Thanks.