List of vendors Age Verification requirements.

[mattiem]

Oh my, I sure hope you weren't referring to my post @tearose50. I sure wasn't meaning that RTS wasn't using some kind of verification. I just meant that all they needed was my birth date and I was totally willing to give out that information. I see their system, however they are doing it, as a good thing.

 

[mmsjs5]

Kidney Puncher uses BlueCheck

 

[coldgin96]

Kidney Puncher uses BlueCheck

Doesn't surprise me.

 

[bnrkwest]

Kidney Puncher uses BlueCheck

I bought some great sales there pre 8-8, too bad about them using BlueCheck

 

[HazyShades]

@puffon...I think somebody already post that email from vapejoose but thanks.

 

[Qew]

I placed an order at Vixen Vapor on the 12th and it went exactly the same as it has for the past 4 years, no extra info requested. I wondered how they were handling the AV process and just like magic, they put a blog out later that day that answered my question.

The part that addresses the verification:

Age verification for all orders – Some websites may ask for a picture of your driver’s license or require that you have your online order shipped with adult signature confirmation. Our site uses a 3rd-party age verification service so we don’t require DLs unless the age-verify service can’t recognize you. The state of Texas had already implemented an age verification requirement back in October 2015, so our site has been in compliance for nearly a year.

Thanks for pulling all of this together @tmcase and all the rest that have contributed.

 

[tearose50]

Oh my, I sure hope you weren't referring to my post @tearose50. I sure wasn't meaning that RTS wasn't using some kind of verification. I just meant that all they needed was my birth date and I was totally willing to give out that information. I see their system. however they are doing it, as a good thing.

That was a bit of my point mattiem. You recall not doing an extra set of questions, which is pretty much "business as usual", yet you somehow "got" that you were verified with that popular vendor. I think that's a positive attitude and quite likely a correct one.

However, we really don't know at this point. It is either:

1. You were misinformed for whatever unknown reason and they don't have a qualified system (yet).
2. They have a behind the scenes qualified system in place that needs no additional data, for many people.

IMHO all the vendors that don't have a named verify company/program advertised obviously on their site are either one or two. It is also quite likely that some or many listed as "no system" or similar wording is completely false. I can all but guarantee it for a couple of our largest vendors, where some have doubted their integrity, even though they have stated on site "your age will be verified."

 

[retired1]

Bear in mind, depending on the service used, a vendor may be manually calling the verification in by phone, rather than doing it online. This still meets the FDA requirement.

Page 11, the page before this one depending on how many posts you have set up per page.

20 posts is what everyone gets. Since the switch to XF, the option to change that is no longer available.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

That was a bit of my point mattiem. You recall not doing an extra set of questions, which is pretty much "business as usual", yet you somehow "got" that you were verified with that popular vendor. I think that's a positive attitude and quite likely a correct one.

However, we really don't know at this point. It is either:

1. You were misinformed for whatever unknown reason and they don't have a qualified system (yet).
2. They have a behind the scenes qualified system in place that needs no additional data, for many people.

IMHO all the vendors that don't have a named verify company/program advertised obviously on their site are either one or two. It is also quite likely that some or many listed as "no system" or similar wording is completely false. I can all but guarantee it for a couple of our largest vendors, where some have doubted their integrity, even though they have stated on site "your age will be verified."

I personally don't think we should have to 'guess' at whether our favorite vendors are doing AV or not. If they are doing AV or at least making some sort of arrangement to do so, then it is their responsibility to inform their customers. They have to know that everyone is up in arms over this and by saying nothing adds fuel to the fire. A simple email to their customers or even a short blurp on their website doesn't take but a few minutes to create. It could make or break their business and I would think that would do all they could to ensure their continued place in this market.
my 2 pennies

 

[mattiem]

That was a bit of my point mattiem. You recall not doing an extra set of questions, which is pretty much "business as usual", yet you somehow "got" that you were verified with that popular vendor. I think that's a positive attitude and quite likely a correct one.

However, we really don't know at this point. It is either:

1. You were misinformed for whatever unknown reason and they don't have a qualified system (yet).
2. They have a behind the scenes qualified system in place that needs no additional data, for many people.

IMHO all the vendors that don't have a named verify company/program advertised obviously on their site are either one or two. It is also quite likely that some or many listed as "no system" or similar wording is completely false. I can all but guarantee it for a couple of our largest vendors, where some have doubted their integrity, even though they have stated on site "your age will be verified."

I will put it this way, I believe RTSVapes has a very non-intrusive verification process and all they ask for is your birth date. I believe they had it in place BEFORE the deeming regs were posted to get out ahead of this mess. I applaud them. It could very well be that other vendors have done the same.

I personally don't think we should have to 'guess' at whether our favorite vendors are doing AV or not. If they are doing AV or at least making some sort of arrangement to do so, then it is their responsibility to inform their customers. They have to know that everyone is up in arms over this and by saying nothing adds fuel to the fire. A simple email to their customers or even a short blurp on their website doesn't take but a few minutes to create. It could make or break their business and I would think that would do all they could to ensure their continued place in this market.
my 2 pennies

Two pennies very well spent

 

[SilverBear]

I simply can't hold it back anymore ---

Many of these vendors have been your Friends. Please don't give them more headaches by publicly suggesting that they are breaking the law.

Please Do Not Post the Names of Any Vendors who you THINK might not be doing a third party verification system. They very well may be working their buns off getting it set up or have put in another system that hasn't been discussed much. Plus, it's off topic for the thread title.

That stuff in red... TY.

 

[MikeE3]

I understand. I personally am not worried about passing since I've been around awhile and have been living in the same place for almost 2 yrs so there are plenty of public records out there so it shouldn't be a problem. It may be for others though.

That's not a guarantee there's enough public records to verify you. Case in point: Over the years I placed many orders w/ mad vapes ... no problems. Then last May 17 (well before the 8/8 date) my order wouldn't go through. I contacted mad vapes and they said they couldn't verify me. Huh? And asked me to send my DL to them. Nope, didn't want to do that. Created another acc't w/ my wife's info and successfully placed the order.

And ... I've been living at the same address for over 30 years, worked for the same company for over 40 years before retiring, have been using the same CC (billed to the same address) for at least 30 years ... so one would think there's plenty of consistent public records for me.

 

[tmcase]

Please don't give them more headaches by publicly suggesting that they are breaking the law.

Please Do Not Post the Names of Any Vendors who you THINK might not be doing a third party verification system.

I'm sorry this thread is so upsetting to you. I have in no way suggested that anyone is breaking the law. At the top of my list I have put an explanation of what "No change" means. Maybe you missed it. This is what it says:

No change means the vendor may be using Veratad which is invisible to the buyer unless they cannot find a match, then you will be asked for additional ID OR the vendor isn’t in compliance (yet).

If there is a better way of wording this I'd like to hear it but I don't intend to delete the list. The list is helpful to the members and could be helpful to the vendors if they haven't got an AV in place yet or don't know which AV process to use. Any vendors that are reading this or hearing about it may let us know before we order by emailing or putting something on their home page say what the AV procedure is, like somebody here suggested.

I'd like to add that if anyone knows of a vendor's AV but are reluctant to post it here, you are welcome to PM me the info and I will add it to the list. Your name will be confidential. Please be sure your info is correct.

 

[retired1]

That's not a guarantee there's enough public records to verify you. Case in point: Over the years I placed many orders w/ Mad Vapes ... no problems. Then last May 17 (well before the 8/8 date) my order wouldn't go through. I contacted Mad Vapes and they said they couldn't verify me. Huh? And asked me to send my DL to them. Nope, didn't want to do that. Created another acc't w/ my wife's info and successfully placed the order.

And ... I've been living at the same address for over 30 years, worked for the same company for over 40 years before retiring, have been using the same CC (billed to the same address) for at least 30 years ... so one would think there's plenty of consistent public records for me.

I expect the same once I'm back in the US next month. I kicked credit cards to the curb nearly 10 years ago, purchase with cash (or debit) whenever possible, and try to keep my footprint on the Innerwebz as small as possible.

If this causes an issue when ordering online from some companies, I'll just look elsewhere for the item as I fully intend on keeping that footprint nice and small.

 

[tmcase]

That's not a guarantee there's enough public records to verify you. Case in point: Over the years I placed many orders w/ Mad Vapes ... no problems. Then last May 17 (well before the 8/8 date) my order wouldn't go through. I contacted Mad Vapes and they said they couldn't verify me. Huh? And asked me to send my DL to them. Nope, didn't want to do that. Created another acc't w/ my wife's info and successfully placed the order.

And ... I've been living at the same address for over 30 years, worked for the same company for over 40 years before retiring, have been using the same CC (billed to the same address) for at least 30 years ... so one would think there's plenty of consistent public records for me.

That is pretty strange. Possibly a glitch or maybe there was a typo, IDK.

My order to Myvaporstore that I placed yesterday has shipped today. They have Veratad in place and I wasn't asked to provide any personal ID so the public records search worked in my case. It would be interesting to see what happens if you placed a test order with Madvapes again to see if the same thing happens.

 

[Robino1]

From a vendor on ECF:

Heather's Heavenly Vapes - THE BIG THREAD (Part 6)

We are going with Veratad. They are a highly rated company and their verifications are quick and accurate.

 

[tmcase]

Oh my, I sure hope you weren't referring to my post @tearose50. I sure wasn't meaning that RTS wasn't using some kind of verification. I just meant that all they needed was my birth date and I was totally willing to give out that information. I see their system, however they are doing it, as a good thing.

I don't even have RTS on the list. Did I miss something?

 

[mattiem]

I placed an order with RTSVapes today. Seems I was verified before 8/8 and am still showing up as verified so am not sure which company they are using for verification. Hopefully someone else has ordered from them and we can find out. If I am remembering it correctly they did ask for my birth date when I placed my last order for nicotine a couple of weeks before the doom date and doing that verified me. I have searched their site and haven't found out how they do their verification but in my case they just needed my birth date.

I don't even have RTS on the list. Did I miss something?

The discussion started with the above post.

 

[tmcase]

Kidney Puncher uses BlueCheck

Thank you. I didn't see anything about BlueCheck on their website. Did you see this before or after you checked out?

 

[tmcase]

I placed an order at Vixen Vapor on the 12th and it went exactly the same as it has for the past 4 years, no extra info requested. I wondered how they were handling the AV process and just like magic, they put a blog out later that day that answered my question.

The part that addresses the verification:


Thanks for pulling all of this together @tmcase and all the rest that have contributed.

Thanks Q, added to list and you are very welcome.